Voicing and regulation today
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wrote on 31 May 2020, 15:06 last edited by
My tuner is coming over today to voice my Petrof. Been meaning to get this done for some time. 2005 petrof III majestic. Has anyone ever had theirs done and were you happy with the results?
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wrote on 31 May 2020, 15:08 last edited by
Good that you're getting this done. Pianos who are not given a voice, end up rioting on the streets.
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Good that you're getting this done. Pianos who are not given a voice, end up rioting on the streets.
wrote on 31 May 2020, 15:13 last edited by@Horace said in Voicing and regulation today:
Good that you're getting this done. Pianos who are not given a voice, end up rioting on the streets.
PVM!
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wrote on 31 May 2020, 15:16 last edited by
Yes, once after getting my piano into my new place, then again after I moved to another place. Worked out well enough for me.
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wrote on 1 Jun 2020, 15:26 last edited by
He spent 10 non stop hours on it yesterday. The result is a bit softer sound and a control I've never experienced before on this piano. I can play soft as a church mouse with ease. Feels like a Steinway now. lol. He only charged me $400. A wonderful man. Legally blind too.
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wrote on 1 Jun 2020, 17:35 last edited by
Good voicing can make a huge difference. I'm amazed, though, that you'd get 10 hours of a qualified piano technician for $400.
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Good voicing can make a huge difference. I'm amazed, though, that you'd get 10 hours of a qualified piano technician for $400.
wrote on 1 Jun 2020, 17:42 last edited by A Former User 6 Jan 2020, 17:43@Klaus said in Voicing and regulation today:
Good voicing can make a huge difference. I'm amazed, though, that you'd get 10 hours of a qualified piano technician for $400.
Yup. He's a good friend though. That may have played a part. He probably spent the most time on the regulation. He's also the piano tech at our university as well as our local philharmonic. He gets to meet and work with all the famous classical pianists that come play here. Funny thing is he doesn't really play piano. He's awesome on fiddle though. Big bluegrass guy.
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wrote on 1 Jun 2020, 17:53 last edited by
I've had a technician to do extended regulation and voicing work on two different pianos. One of the times I was quite happy with the result: it was an older Grotrian grand piano that hadn't been regulated and voiced for 10 years, and the difference was huge. The other one was on a Bösendorfer that, in hindsight, probably wasn't that much in need of voicing and regulation, but I was secretly hoping that the technician would change the character of the piano, but that didn't work out. I ended up selling the Bösie.
One aspect of regulation that has a particularly noticeable effect IMO is key weight, together with the other maintenance operations of the key movement.
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wrote on 1 Jun 2020, 18:11 last edited by
Yeah.. petrofs are a real bitch to voice..
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wrote on 1 Jun 2020, 19:33 last edited by
Does anyone know how Petrof is doing? They seem to have been popular for a while, at least in the US, but then kind of disappeared again. I don't know a single dealership in a 3 hour radius that carries Petrof.
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Does anyone know how Petrof is doing? They seem to have been popular for a while, at least in the US, but then kind of disappeared again. I don't know a single dealership in a 3 hour radius that carries Petrof.
wrote on 1 Jun 2020, 21:13 last edited by George K 6 Jan 2020, 21:14@Klaus said in Voicing and regulation today:
Does anyone know how Petrof is doing? They seem to have been popular for a while, at least in the US, but then kind of disappeared again. I don't know a single dealership in a 3 hour radius that carries Petrof.
Their website doesn't even say "where to buy." Interesting that they now have several other lines besides the Weinbach.
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@Klaus said in Voicing and regulation today:
Does anyone know how Petrof is doing? They seem to have been popular for a while, at least in the US, but then kind of disappeared again. I don't know a single dealership in a 3 hour radius that carries Petrof.
Their website doesn't even say "where to buy." Interesting that they now have several other lines besides the Weinbach.
wrote on 1 Jun 2020, 22:50 last edited by Klaus 6 Jan 2020, 22:51@George-K They do list dealerships world-wide that supposedly carry Petrof. However, I have been to some of the dealerships listed there in the last years and I don't remember seeing any Petrof pianos there. They also list dealerships in the US
Actually, now that I think about it, I visited one of the American dealerships in Philadelphia with Jon, and I very vaguely recall a Petrof grand piano sitting on their floor.
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@George-K They do list dealerships world-wide that supposedly carry Petrof. However, I have been to some of the dealerships listed there in the last years and I don't remember seeing any Petrof pianos there. They also list dealerships in the US
Actually, now that I think about it, I visited one of the American dealerships in Philadelphia with Jon, and I very vaguely recall a Petrof grand piano sitting on their floor.
wrote on 1 Jun 2020, 22:57 last edited by George K 6 Jan 2020, 23:03@Klaus said in Voicing and regulation today:
@George-K They do list dealerships world-wide that supposedly carry Petrof. However, I have been to some of the dealerships listed there in the last years and I don't remember seeing any Petrof pianos there. They also list dealerships in the US
Ah! Thanks. For some reason I couldn't find that.
My dotage creeps on...
There used to be a dealer in the Chicago area, Pickle Piano, that carried Weinbachs. When I was shopping, I played one that was pretty nice. They also had a very, very, nice August Forster.
I see that they advertise Bohemia pianos as well - didn't they go out of business a while ago?
And yes, their website shows Petrof, Weinbach and Nordiska.
http://www.picklepiano.com/browsenewpianos.php
Interestingly, they're not listed at the Petrof site.
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wrote on 1 Jun 2020, 23:30 last edited by
Bechstein makes some of their cheaper pianos in the Czech Republic. I may be wrong, but I have the impression that they are more successful at that than Petrof. Anecdotal evidence: There are three piano dealerships in a 50km radius of my place that offer Hoffmann pianos (which is one of the lines Bechstein makes in CR).
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Bechstein makes some of their cheaper pianos in the Czech Republic. I may be wrong, but I have the impression that they are more successful at that than Petrof. Anecdotal evidence: There are three piano dealerships in a 50km radius of my place that offer Hoffmann pianos (which is one of the lines Bechstein makes in CR).
wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 01:50 last edited byI realize Petrof isn’t In the top two tiers of grands, But it sure seemed like a great deal at the time I’m 2005 for what I paid and for the tone it presented. The regulation was never good, But today that has all changed. It’s a better piano in 2020 than when it was new in 2005. The III is 6’4” and has a nice bell like treble but lacks in the bass. It’s all a bit softer now, He did more shaving than needling. It’s biggest competitor at the time was Estonia, but I never got to try one as no one had them here. I did visit with IVoryThumper back when he was in Phoenix and got to play on his, and can definitely say it was a big step up. But of course Estonia’s prices climbed quickly when people saw how good they were.
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wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 01:55 last edited by
I remember playing the smaller Estonia. It was a very, very nice piano. If I recall correctly, it was similarly priced to the Bohemia 185.
Somehow, the Estonia was more "Mason" like than the Bohemia. It was more powerful, and not quite as "sweet".
Granted, I was comparing the smaller Estonia to the Bohemia 185.
I chose the Bohemia, and I love it.
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I remember playing the smaller Estonia. It was a very, very nice piano. If I recall correctly, it was similarly priced to the Bohemia 185.
Somehow, the Estonia was more "Mason" like than the Bohemia. It was more powerful, and not quite as "sweet".
Granted, I was comparing the smaller Estonia to the Bohemia 185.
I chose the Bohemia, and I love it.
wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 02:31 last edited by A Former User 6 Feb 2020, 02:32@George-K said in Voicing and regulation today:
I remember playing the smaller Estonia. It was a very, very nice piano. If I recall correctly, it was similarly priced to the Bohemia 185.
Somehow, the Estonia was more "Mason" like than the Bohemia. It was more powerful, and not quite as "sweet".
Granted, I was comparing the smaller Estonia to the Bohemia 185.
I chose the Bohemia, and I love it.
Nice analogy. Yes. The Estonia has power.
I bet the Queen song sounds divine on it.
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wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 03:25 last edited by
I very nearly bought a Petrof III. Very nice piano. Very nice romantic sound. The Estonias I played often seemed too bright for my taste. Gimme a Bechstein 210 please.
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I very nearly bought a Petrof III. Very nice piano. Very nice romantic sound. The Estonias I played often seemed too bright for my taste. Gimme a Bechstein 210 please.
wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 09:00 last edited by@Mik said in Voicing and regulation today:
Gimme a Bechstein 210 please.
Then you either have to cut off 2cm of a 212, or glue 2cm of wood to the 208 "Academy".
