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Tonight's Dinner was a bit flour-ey

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  • JollyJ Jolly

    You're making a white roux, then a milk gravy. I use butter for my oil. I also tend to use self-rising flour, which has salt.

    I don't measure anything.

    Melt butter, add flour and mix so as to take up the melted butter. Add milk, increase heat and stir with a fork or whisk the entire time, while adding in a copius amount of black pepper and some salt to taste. Stop and turn off the fire when you get the consistency you want, but remember, it'll set up. If it gets too thick, add a little water, heat and stir. A good gravy maker can make it without lumps.

    You can make a gravy with bacon drippings, but I tend to use the drippings to build a brown roux, then add my milk and work it just like a white gravy.

    Alternatively, fry your cutlets, drain off most the grease and use that little bit of oil and the scrapings from the pan to build a brown roux, then add milk and work it like a white gravy. We'd probably eat that over rice or mashed taters.

    All it takes is practice.

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    @Jolly said in Tonight's Dinner was a bit flour-ey:

    Alternatively, fry your cutlets, drain off most the grease and use that little bit of oil and the scrapings from the pan to build a brown roux, then add milk and work it like a white gravy.

    That sounds intriguing.

    Mrs. George's favorite dish is "chicken schnitzel", which is basically breaded thin chicken breasts that are pan-fried. I imagine I could do your suggestion with that, but not sure if I'd have enough grease. I suppose adding a little butter to the skillet would make up the difference.

    Gonna try it.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      @Jolly said in Tonight's Dinner was a bit flour-ey:

      Alternatively, fry your cutlets, drain off most the grease and use that little bit of oil and the scrapings from the pan to build a brown roux, then add milk and work it like a white gravy.

      That sounds intriguing.

      Mrs. George's favorite dish is "chicken schnitzel", which is basically breaded thin chicken breasts that are pan-fried. I imagine I could do your suggestion with that, but not sure if I'd have enough grease. I suppose adding a little butter to the skillet would make up the difference.

      Gonna try it.

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      @George-K said in Tonight's Dinner was a bit flour-ey:

      @Jolly said in Tonight's Dinner was a bit flour-ey:

      Alternatively, fry your cutlets, drain off most the grease and use that little bit of oil and the scrapings from the pan to build a brown roux, then add milk and work it like a white gravy.

      That sounds intriguing.

      Mrs. George's favorite dish is "chicken schnitzel", which is basically breaded thin chicken breasts that are pan-fried. I imagine I could do your suggestion with that, but not sure if I'd have enough grease. I suppose adding a little butter to the skillet would make up the difference.

      Gonna try it.

      Or just a wee bit more oil.

      I use butter on white gravy for a richer "mouth feel". Use what you like.

      Here's an old video of Kent in the kitchen making a white gravy with bacon drippings. Notice how carefully he measures things. 😄

      Link to video

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        @George-K said in Tonight's Dinner was a bit flour-ey:

        @Jolly said in Tonight's Dinner was a bit flour-ey:

        Alternatively, fry your cutlets, drain off most the grease and use that little bit of oil and the scrapings from the pan to build a brown roux, then add milk and work it like a white gravy.

        That sounds intriguing.

        Mrs. George's favorite dish is "chicken schnitzel", which is basically breaded thin chicken breasts that are pan-fried. I imagine I could do your suggestion with that, but not sure if I'd have enough grease. I suppose adding a little butter to the skillet would make up the difference.

        Gonna try it.

        Or just a wee bit more oil.

        I use butter on white gravy for a richer "mouth feel". Use what you like.

        Here's an old video of Kent in the kitchen making a white gravy with bacon drippings. Notice how carefully he measures things. 😄

        Link to video

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        George K
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        @Jolly thanks for that.

        I think my mistake(s) were using cold milk, unsifted flour (though it wasn't lumpy), and having the heat too high, so the milk boiled off, leaving nothing but the roux.

        I'll try again, avoiding those errors. I still have some bacon grease left over, so, perhaps I'll try it tonight with the leftover chicken.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Jolly
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          Speaking of chicken...For pan-frying a breast cut, we'll pound that sucker out fairly thin (for chicken) and use panko bread crumbs. After that, you can take it a bunch of different ways with gravy, marinara sauce over pasta, vidalia onion sauce, you name it.

          I betch you Mik has a gazillion good sauces that will work.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            George K
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            Here's a backward approach to it:

            https://www.food.com/recipe/basic-milk-gravy-201545

            1cup whole milk
            2 tablespoons margarine or 2 tablespoons butter
            1⁄2 teaspoon salt
            1⁄4 teaspoon black pepper or 1/4 teaspoon white pepper
            1⁄2 cup cold water
            1 tablespoon cornstarch

            Place milk, butter, salt and pepper in a small sauce pan , bring to a simmer over medium heat.
            As milk starts to simmer whisk cornstarch and water into a slurry.
            Add this to milk, it should thicken almost immediately.
            Serve over biscuits, fries, or potato pancakes.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Butter definitely makes a better roux. It never ceases to amaze me how few places make a good cream gravy. So easy and mostly done through an abundance of black pepper.

              I have a foolproof formula for making quick pan sauces, which can be about anything. Deglaze with a little wine or juice, add a little stock or other liquid, any seasoning or mushrooms or anything you want, reduce and finish with a little butter.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                "Pound the breasts until they are a quarter inch thick"..........

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                  "Pound the breasts until they are a quarter inch thick"..........

                  istockphoto-174950311-1024x1024.jpg

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                  @Larry said in Tonight's Dinner was a bit flour-ey:

                  "Pound the breasts until they are a quarter inch thick"..........

                  Sometimes, to get it just right, you gotta beat the meat.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG George K

                    @Larry said in Tonight's Dinner was a bit flour-ey:

                    "Pound the breasts until they are a quarter inch thick"..........

                    Sometimes, to get it just right, you gotta beat the meat.

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                    @George-K said in Tonight's Dinner was a bit flour-ey:

                    @Larry said in Tonight's Dinner was a bit flour-ey:

                    "Pound the breasts until they are a quarter inch thick"..........

                    Sometimes, to get it just right, you gotta beat the meat.

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                      #13

                      Joe's BBQ .., "You can beat our beans and you can beat our corn... but you can't beat our meat!"

                      Porkys" "we like our butts rubbed and our pork pulled"

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                        I made chicken mole tonight with Frontera’s red mole. It was delicious. I love mole, just don’t have the patience to make it. My step grandfather, who was from Oaxaca, made it for me when I was living in LA. Fantastic.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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