Webb Telescope might be able to detect other civilizations by their air pollution

[Larry]

@Klaus said in Webb Telescope might be able to detect other civilizations by their air pollution:

@Larry said in Webb Telescope might be able to detect other civilizations by their air pollution:

"If you believe that some 'God' just created everything out of nothing in an instant, you're an idiot"
"The universe and everything in it was created by a big bang where nothing exploded into everything"....

"It's ok to kill a baby in the womb because it's not yet life"
"If we can find even a single solitary one celled thing on another planet it will prove life exists on other planets..."

You really have no clue whatsoever what science is, do you?

Hint: It's not "they are from the other camp, hence I project everything I hate about the other camp onto science".

Yes, I know exactly what science is. I also know a dickwad when see one, and I pegged you years ago. You are exactly the type of idiot I was addressing.

The bit dog barked.

[Klaus]

You could make an attempt to be a little more original in your insults. Your lack of creativity in designing good insults is in fact more insulting than the actual insults.

[Doctor Phibes]

Due to the well-documented stupidity of scientists, apparently there's a space telescope that is being developed and designed by non-scientists, since we all know how clever those guys are.

Fifteen years in and they're holding 'focus-groups' and 'creativity workshops' to decide on a colour scheme for the mirror.

[Larry]

@Klaus said in Webb Telescope might be able to detect other civilizations by their air pollution:

You could make an attempt to be a little more original in your insults. Your lack of creativity in designing good insults is in fact more insulting than the actual insults.

@Klaus said in Webb Telescope might be able to detect other civilizations by their air pollution:

You could make an attempt to be a little more original in your insults. Your lack of creativity in designing good insults is in fact more insulting than the actual insults.

Please, oh wise and sage superior being - tell me which of my examples was wrong. I do believe it was scientists who came up with the big bang theory, wasn't it? I do believe it was scientists who said that finding even a single celled organism on mars would be proof that life exists on mars wasn't it? Are you willing, oh wise one, my I intellectual superior, to admit that it was NOT science that those who support abortion on demand based their claim that it was ok to abort a baby still in the womb because it wasn't yet life?

Fuck you, you elitist asshole.

[Larry]

At least we now have the answer to my first question of "do the "if you disagree with any of this you are a science denier" crowd e er listen to themselves..,, the answer is no. Klaus has given their standard response - "you are a science denier!!"

I defy him to show a single thing I said about denying science.....

I just gored his God, and he doesn't like it. What an empty, shallow mind.....

[Renauda]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Webb Telescope might be able to detect other civilizations by their air pollution:

Due to the well-documented stupidity of scientists, apparently there's a space telescope that is being developed and designed by non-scientists, since we all know how clever those guys are.

Fifteen years in and they're holding 'focus-groups' and 'creativity workshops' to decide on a colour scheme for the mirror.

Those would be MBA’s in consultation with ersatz intellectuals who refer to themselves as social scientists.

[Mik]

@Renauda said in Webb Telescope might be able to detect other civilizations by their air pollution:

@Doctor-Phibes said in Webb Telescope might be able to detect other civilizations by their air pollution:

Due to the well-documented stupidity of scientists, apparently there's a space telescope that is being developed and designed by non-scientists, since we all know how clever those guys are.

Fifteen years in and they're holding 'focus-groups' and 'creativity workshops' to decide on a colour scheme for the mirror.

Those would be MBA’s in consultation with ersatz intellectuals who refer to themselves as social scientists.

Hari Seldon wannabees.

[Doctor Phibes]

How many religious people does it take to build a space telescope?

I look forward to the punchline with enthusiasm.

[Copper]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Webb Telescope might be able to detect other civilizations by their air pollution:

How many religious people does it take to build a space telescope?

More than 10,000 people worked on the project.

On a project like that you would want about 90% to be devout religious in order to have success. So, maybe 9,000 religious people required and then another 1,000 who could be the second string, emptying trash and mopping floors, making coffee and stuff like that.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Copper said in Webb Telescope might be able to detect other civilizations by their air pollution:

@Doctor-Phibes said in Webb Telescope might be able to detect other civilizations by their air pollution:

How many religious people does it take to build a space telescope?

More than 10,000 people worked on the project.

On a project like that you would want about 90% to be devout religious in order to have success. So, maybe 9,000 religious people required and then another 1,000 who could be the second string, emptying trash and mopping floors, making coffee and stuff like that.

I'm not sure you've really grasped the concept of 'punchline'.

[Klaus]

@Larry said in Webb Telescope might be able to detect other civilizations by their air pollution:

I do believe it was scientists who said that finding even a single celled organism on mars would be proof that life exists on mars wasn't it?

You don't need science to say that and it's not an opinion; that statement is true by how the term "life" is defined.

Are you willing, oh wise one, my I intellectual superior, to admit that it was NOT science that those who support abortion on demand based their claim that it was ok to abort a baby still in the womb because it wasn't yet life?

I don't think anyone in his right mind would say that an unborn baby isn't life. The contested issue is more about whether that life is equivalent to that of a "born" human or not. But this has very little to do with "science". Morality is not a scientific issue. So I'm not sure what your point is.

Klaus has given their standard response - "you are a science denier!!"

Lolwut? Now you are just making things up. I didn't say you "deny science". I said you have no clue what science is because your comparisons were so over-the-top absurd. You are so quick in putting people into boxes labeled "us" and "they" that you are not able to differentiate anymore between what a person said and what other persons you put in the same box said. You have a rather low-resolution view of the world.

It's fine if you have a "people I hate" box, but at least put up a few different ones. I don't want to be in the same box as AOC

[Larry]

Ok Klaus, I have it figured out now. You're an idiot.

[Klaus]

@Larry said in Webb Telescope might be able to detect other civilizations by their air pollution:

Ok Klaus, I have it figured out now. You're an idiot.

The data in this thread suggests a different conclusion.

[Nunatax]

@Larry said in Webb Telescope might be able to detect other civilizations by their air pollution:

Then there's the notion that we can find life on another planet by looking for pollution.... if the civilization is advanced enough to pollute, it's advanced enough to be looking for life on other planets... yet we've never found even a hint that that has ever happened... alien civilizations are probably advanced well beyond us, able to travel billions of light years by "bending time"..... yet these genius super beings have only ever shown themselves to drunk Bubbas living in trailer parks...... not to mention a civilization so advan ed should have long ago solved the problem of pollution....

I don’t think there’s any serious scientist who dares to claim with certainty that we will find life on another planet in this way (or another), or that it is even likely. This telescope has the capability to detect signs of life in ways we’ve never had before, so why not try it? Abandoning this option based on some wild speculations about the existence of (intelligent) alien life, would go against everything that science is about. And this is but one of the many things they can and will do with this telescope, and I can’t wait to see what is discovered with it, be it (potential) signs of life or new insights on the origins and workings of our universe.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Klaus said in Webb Telescope might be able to detect other civilizations by their air pollution:

I don't want to be in the same box as AOC

Schrodinger's liberal.

We can only determine whether it's Klaus or AOC in there by either opening it, or by poking something into the little breathing hole.

[Larry]

@Nunatax said in Webb Telescope might be able to detect other civilizations by their air pollution:

@Larry said in Webb Telescope might be able to detect other civilizations by their air pollution:

Then there's the notion that we can find life on another planet by looking for pollution.... if the civilization is advanced enough to pollute, it's advanced enough to be looking for life on other planets... yet we've never found even a hint that that has ever happened... alien civilizations are probably advanced well beyond us, able to travel billions of light years by "bending time"..... yet these genius super beings have only ever shown themselves to drunk Bubbas living in trailer parks...... not to mention a civilization so advan ed should have long ago solved the problem of pollution....

I don’t think there’s any serious scientist who dares to claim with certainty that we will find life on another planet in this way (or another), or that it is even likely. This telescope has the capability to detect signs of life in ways we’ve never had before, so why not try it? Abandoning this option based on some wild speculations about the existence of (intelligent) alien life, would go against everything that science is about. And this is but one of the many things they can and will do with this telescope, and I can’t wait to see what is discovered with it, be it (potential) signs of life or new insights on the origins and workings of our universe.

You have completely and utterly missed the point that was making. I have no issue with the new telescope, and am just as eager as you to see what it finds.

I am truly stunned by how completely you and Klaus both missed my point.

[Larry]

@Klaus said in Webb Telescope might be able to detect other civilizations by their air pollution:

@Larry said in Webb Telescope might be able to detect other civilizations by their air pollution:

Ok Klaus, I have it figured out now. You're an idiot.

The data in this thread suggests a different conclusion.

Nah. You fell through your own asshole and hung yourself, and nothing will ever get you to see that.

I notice that you haven't even tried to tell me which thing it is that I said that you think id's wrong, so I'll assume you can't.

[Klaus]

@Larry said in Webb Telescope might be able to detect other civilizations by their air pollution:

Nah. You fell through your own asshole and hung yourself, and nothing will ever get you to see that.

That's already marginally more creative and funnier than just plain "idiot". Very good. Keep going!

[Larry]

@Klaus said in Webb Telescope might be able to detect other civilizations by their air pollution:

@Larry said in Webb Telescope might be able to detect other civilizations by their air pollution:

Nah. You fell through your own asshole and hung yourself, and nothing will ever get you to see that.

That's already marginally more creative and funnier than just plain "idiot". Very good. Keep going!

Show me where I said a damned thing against science, or where I said something that isn't true, or shut the fuck up.

[Klaus]

@Larry said in Webb Telescope might be able to detect other civilizations by their air pollution:

@Klaus said in Webb Telescope might be able to detect other civilizations by their air pollution:

@Larry said in Webb Telescope might be able to detect other civilizations by their air pollution:

Nah. You fell through your own asshole and hung yourself, and nothing will ever get you to see that.

That's already marginally more creative and funnier than just plain "idiot". Very good. Keep going!

Show me where I said a damned thing against science, or where I said something that isn't true, or shut the fuck up.

That's a regrettable relapse to a plain STFU. You can do better!