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@Doctor-Phibes said in True? Not true?:
@Jolly said in True? Not true?:
Would you put it past the Australian government to use such crowd dispersal weapons?
I don't really know much about the Australian government, and how it is likely to behave. I can't imagine the British government doing this for a minute.
Would you put it past people to completely make up stories and post them on the internet?
Haven’t you heard? It’s open season on all the former Dominions of the Empire.
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No, it's a comment on possible use of weapons on protesters.
It just happens to be in a former part of the empire.
Now, I don't know if there is something inherently autocratic in the countries which used to belong to that empire, or if their governments have some ingrained perception of their people as subjects, but I'm sure you will take great pains to enlighten me.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in True? Not true?:
@Jolly said in True? Not true?:
Nope, but you might want to follow some of the old Australian stories on their government's response to COVID and anybody who did not obey the government's decrees.
That's why I said the use of such weapons on a crowd would not surprise me.
Well, presumably you are aware that they're descended from a bunch of criminals.
Unlike the United States, that is descended from a bunch of religous fanatics.
And it shows.
I get sick of you constantly mocking Americans. If you don't like it here, fucking leave.
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Now, now, calm down. I actually thought I was laughing at the Australians.
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@Jolly said in True? Not true?:
Now, I don't know if there is something inherently autocratic in the countries which used to belong to that empire, or if their governments have some ingrained perception of their people as subjects, but I'm sure you will take great pains to enlighten me.
Right, because the countries that didn't belong to the Empire have such a long history of being devoted to personal freedom!
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Seems to me the Empire and it’s rag tag militia of irregulars and Indians didn’t get their asses kicked in the War of 1812.
As for the 1814 incident, that was just a combination of commissioned donkeys leading perfectly good infantryman on impossibly soft and wet terrain into a well laid defensive line. Correct me if I am wrong but I think it was all over in about 20 minutes.
Besides, the British were not aware that the war was already over and the Treaty signed with no clear winner declared. All that is certain is that the Indians were the losers.
As for WWI, it was in America’s interests to send in troops on the side of the Entente. Germany, if you recall precipitated the US mobilization by signing a secret agreement to invade the USA from the south. There was also the question US bank loans to Britain to purchase US munitions. So there’s a little more to that story than what you have been led to believe.
As to WWII you are correct, but then again it was Britain and the Commonwealth versus Germany until Pearl Harbor and Hiltler’s declaration of war on the USA. Lend - Lease aside, the US could just as easily have stayed out of the European theatre until Japan had been defeated. So yeah, the USA did save Britain from Hitler but again, it was in the best interests politically and economically ti the USA.
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At the end of the Battle of Lake Champlain, the British were forced to withdraw from the Great Lakes region. A British public, tired of the Napoleonic Wars and the fight in America, exerted enough pressure to give impetus to the Treaty of Ghent, even though that same year they had burned Washington. The Battle of New Orleans, fought after the treaty as you well know, was the biggest land victory of the was for the U.S.
The Americans should not have invaded Canada, but Champlain did give them much greater access to the Great Lakes. And while the treaty did not settle some of the questions which caused the war, impressement and trade harassment stopped.
By the time the Oregon Question was settled, it was pretty evident Britain had no desire for any land war in America. Especially since their population would have starved without American farm production.
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@Jolly said in True? Not true?:
This one does.
That's debatable. The Jim Crow laws weren't exactly this country's finest hour.
Neither were the McCarthy witch-hunts.
Or the Kent State killings.
There are lots of other examples.
Yeah, I know, you felt guilty afterwards.
I don't agree whatsoever that America is special in this regard.
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@Larry said in True? Not true?:
If you don't like it here, fucking leave.
You owe me $29.99. My brand new irony meter just fucking exploded.
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By the time the Oregon Question was settled, it was pretty evident Britain had no desire for any land war in America. Especially since their population would have starved without American farm production.
Well you’ve got me there. Not about Britain having no desire for war with the USA. No, that I already knew. Indeed, its North American colony had by the 1840s diminishing business interests pretty much limited to the HBC. By then also British attention had been turning to the east specifically to Indian subcontinent. But where you got me was on farm exports. First time I have heard that. While I don’t dispute it, I am curious all the same as to your source of that fact.
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