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To Mask or Not To Mask?

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  • G George K
    8 Oct 2020, 23:19

    From Nature "Face masks: what the data say"

    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02801-8

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    taiwan_girl
    wrote on 9 Oct 2020, 00:41 last edited by
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    @George-K said in To Mask or Not To Mask?:

    From Nature "Face masks: what the data say"

    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02801-8

    Good article. 👍

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      Aqua Letifer
      wrote on 9 Oct 2020, 01:18 last edited by
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      Masks are a product of fear.

      Please love yourself.

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        Copper
        wrote on 9 Oct 2020, 01:40 last edited by
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        Once they use data as plural, I'm done.

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          9 Oct 2020, 01:40

          Once they use data as plural, I'm done.

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          George K
          wrote on 9 Oct 2020, 01:49 last edited by George K 10 Sept 2020, 01:49
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          @Copper said in To Mask or Not To Mask?:

          Once they use data as plural, I'm done.

          Once they used data as plural, I paid attention.

          We've talked about this before, but, I sort of appreciate the attention to the precision of Latin.

          But...that's just one datum.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • G George K
            9 Oct 2020, 01:49

            @Copper said in To Mask or Not To Mask?:

            Once they use data as plural, I'm done.

            Once they used data as plural, I paid attention.

            We've talked about this before, but, I sort of appreciate the attention to the precision of Latin.

            But...that's just one datum.

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            Aqua Letifer
            wrote on 9 Oct 2020, 02:05 last edited by
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            @George-K said in To Mask or Not To Mask?:

            @Copper said in To Mask or Not To Mask?:

            Once they use data as plural, I'm done.

            Once they used data as plural, I paid attention.

            We've talked about this before, but, I sort of appreciate the attention to the precision of Latin.

            But...that's just one datum.

            Fucking* doctors.

            *There you go, some bona fide (see what I did there?) Anglo-Saxon for you.

            Please love yourself.

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            • A Aqua Letifer
              9 Oct 2020, 02:05

              @George-K said in To Mask or Not To Mask?:

              @Copper said in To Mask or Not To Mask?:

              Once they use data as plural, I'm done.

              Once they used data as plural, I paid attention.

              We've talked about this before, but, I sort of appreciate the attention to the precision of Latin.

              But...that's just one datum.

              Fucking* doctors.

              *There you go, some bona fide (see what I did there?) Anglo-Saxon for you.

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              George K
              wrote on 9 Oct 2020, 02:23 last edited by
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              @Aqua-Letifer said in To Mask or Not To Mask?:

              Fucking* doctors.
              *There you go, some bona fide (see what I did there?) Anglo-Saxon for you.

              Bravo, sir.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                Copper
                wrote on 9 Oct 2020, 16:05 last edited by
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                We didn't just study Latin.

                We spoke it.

                It is not only singular, it is Dayt-uh not daaata

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 9 Oct 2020, 16:15 last edited by
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                  John Derbyshire once had a corner post about his unhappiness with these colonial editors at NR changing his ‘data is’ to ‘data are’. His argument, which I found compelling, is the word was now English and not Latin. In English it’s a mass noun like rice or sand. In Latin it’s plural but if you’re using it as a Latin word than you would italicize it. But nobody italicizes it because it’s an English word.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 9 Oct 2020, 16:18 last edited by jon-nyc 10 Sept 2020, 16:19
                    #228

                    People say ‘my agenda is full’.

                    Can you imagine how pretentious would sound to say “I can’t do 9 o’clock, I have an agendum”.

                    Or, “I can’t do next week, my agenda are too many”.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on 9 Oct 2020, 16:21 last edited by
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                      I got 40% on my Latin exam.

                      One should always try to XL, however difficult the subject.

                      I was only joking

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                        George K
                        wrote on 10 Oct 2020, 02:10 last edited by
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                        And...cough:

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          George K
                          wrote on 10 Oct 2020, 23:40 last edited by
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                          From a friend in Canada.

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                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 15 Oct 2020, 22:19 last edited by
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                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              Larry
                              wrote on 15 Oct 2020, 23:54 last edited by
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                              "My choice, my body!"

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                              "Wear a mask! Wear a mask!"

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                                Axtremus
                                wrote on 15 Oct 2020, 23:59 last edited by
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                                Chris Christie, after seven days in the ICU:

                                https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/chris-christie-says-he-was-icu-7-days-battling-covid-n1243589

                                "Every public official, regardless of party or position, should advocate for every American to wear a mask in public, appropriately socially distance and to wash your hands frequently every day. ...”

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 29 Oct 2020, 01:15 last edited by
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                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 7 Dec 2020, 18:44 last edited by
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                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on 7 Dec 2020, 18:55 last edited by
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                                      Waaaaaay too much emphasis being placed on masks by both sides.

                                      They help. A little. Not nearly as much as washing your hands and keeping some space between you and someone else, but a little. Lots of people wearing masks are still getting it from other people that are also wearing masks.

                                      Rather than belittling those people that are wrongly protesting the masks, maybe you should be focusing on belittling people that aren't washing their hands and are a bigger cause of spread than the mask issue?

                                      By focusing on masks, you are creating a false sense of security for groups that aren't socially distancing and aren't taking care of proper hygiene. I've heard it over and over again "Oh, we both had masks so it's ok." No it isn't. The masks helped, but it would have been a lot better if you kept your space and washed your hands...

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                                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad
                                        7 Dec 2020, 18:55

                                        Waaaaaay too much emphasis being placed on masks by both sides.

                                        They help. A little. Not nearly as much as washing your hands and keeping some space between you and someone else, but a little. Lots of people wearing masks are still getting it from other people that are also wearing masks.

                                        Rather than belittling those people that are wrongly protesting the masks, maybe you should be focusing on belittling people that aren't washing their hands and are a bigger cause of spread than the mask issue?

                                        By focusing on masks, you are creating a false sense of security for groups that aren't socially distancing and aren't taking care of proper hygiene. I've heard it over and over again "Oh, we both had masks so it's ok." No it isn't. The masks helped, but it would have been a lot better if you kept your space and washed your hands...

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 7 Dec 2020, 18:59 last edited by
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                                        @LuFins-Dad said in To Mask or Not To Mask?:

                                        Lots of people wearing masks are still getting it from other people that are also wearing masks.

                                        Like D2.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad
                                          7 Dec 2020, 18:55

                                          Waaaaaay too much emphasis being placed on masks by both sides.

                                          They help. A little. Not nearly as much as washing your hands and keeping some space between you and someone else, but a little. Lots of people wearing masks are still getting it from other people that are also wearing masks.

                                          Rather than belittling those people that are wrongly protesting the masks, maybe you should be focusing on belittling people that aren't washing their hands and are a bigger cause of spread than the mask issue?

                                          By focusing on masks, you are creating a false sense of security for groups that aren't socially distancing and aren't taking care of proper hygiene. I've heard it over and over again "Oh, we both had masks so it's ok." No it isn't. The masks helped, but it would have been a lot better if you kept your space and washed your hands...

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                                          taiwan_girl
                                          wrote on 8 Dec 2020, 01:46 last edited by
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                                          @LuFins-Dad I disagree. I think masks help more than a little.

                                          Will there people wearing masks who get sick? Of course. Are there people who lead a healthy lifestyle, never smoke, etc but still get cancer of the lungs? Of course.

                                          I agree that Wearing masks is one part of the overall puzzle but I personally think that they help a lot. And there seems to be data that agrees with this.

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