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To Mask or Not To Mask?

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  • I Improviso
    29 May 2020, 15:06

    Ah... so it really was just bullshit when they said it. Got it.

    Kinda like the bullshit guidance George is pointing out at the start of this thread.

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    Aqua Letifer
    wrote on 29 May 2020, 15:11 last edited by
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    @Improviso said in To Mask or Not To Mask?:

    Ah... so it really was just bullshit when they said it. Got it.

    Kinda like the bullshit guidance George is pointing out at the start of this thread.

    I don't think you can make a case that masks don't drastically mitigate the spread of infection from someone who has the virus. To me it sounds like people who don't want to be inconvenienced are reverse-engineering reasons why they think they're ineffective to justify their position. If absolutely everyone in America followed the same guidance, we could open everything up today without any problems.

    Please love yourself.

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      Improviso
      wrote on 29 May 2020, 15:13 last edited by
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      We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
      Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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        Aqua Letifer
        wrote on 29 May 2020, 15:14 last edited by
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        They do work, and businesses do not have to be closed. I don't understand the point that meme is trying to make.

        Please love yourself.

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          29 May 2020, 15:14

          They do work, and businesses do not have to be closed. I don't understand the point that meme is trying to make.

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          Improviso
          wrote on 29 May 2020, 15:19 last edited by
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          @Aqua-Letifer said in To Mask or Not To Mask?:

          and businesses do not have to be closed. I don't understand the point that meme is trying to make.

          Where you been the last 3 months?

          We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
          Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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            Improviso
            wrote on 29 May 2020, 15:20 last edited by
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            Never mind... working from home. Got it.

            We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
            Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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              Aqua Letifer
              wrote on 29 May 2020, 15:26 last edited by
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              Well if you want to get into this, businesses "have to be closed" because there are enough people out there who think like you do. If everybody wore 'em, there'd be very little risk.

              As to work/not work, reality is a little more nuanced than an internet meme you found on Facebook. They're very effective in preventing an infected person from infecting another. And many, many people are completely asymptomatic, so that's very important. Only certain masks effectively prevent you from getting infected from someone else.

              Please love yourself.

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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on 29 May 2020, 15:59 last edited by
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                Is wearing a mask to go to the store really that much of a hardship?

                I was only joking

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                  29 May 2020, 15:59

                  Is wearing a mask to go to the store really that much of a hardship?

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                  mark
                  wrote on 29 May 2020, 16:04 last edited by mark
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                  @Doctor-Phibes said in To Mask or Not To Mask?:

                  Is wearing a mask to go to the store really that much of a hardship?

                  +1

                  It's not. But, it has become a rally cry for politics.

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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on 29 May 2020, 16:05 last edited by
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                    There are plenty of people enduring real issues, and this is what we're whining about?

                    Please excuse me while I don't give a fuck.

                    I was only joking

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                      Copper
                      wrote on 29 May 2020, 16:07 last edited by
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                      What is the goal? How are we going to measure it?

                      Exactly how many lives have been saved by masks?

                      Why would we ever go out without a mask? I mean forever and ever.

                      Why not wear masks and end all communicable diseases and save everyone's life?

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                        mark
                        wrote on 29 May 2020, 16:08 last edited by
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                        @Doctor-Phibes I agree with you. Sorry if I made it sound otherwise.

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                          xenon
                          wrote on 29 May 2020, 16:14 last edited by xenon
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                          Opposing masks is such an asinine thing to oppose if you're in favor of opening up the country fast.

                          "Hey guys - let's keep our distance and wear masks and get back out there"

                          But, no - there's no good grievance in that message. I am genuinely a little surprise how stark the political lines have been drawn on this.

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 29 May 2020, 16:17 last edited by
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                            I know how to get people on board with masks.

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                            "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                            • C Copper
                              29 May 2020, 16:07

                              What is the goal? How are we going to measure it?

                              Exactly how many lives have been saved by masks?

                              Why would we ever go out without a mask? I mean forever and ever.

                              Why not wear masks and end all communicable diseases and save everyone's life?

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                              mark
                              wrote on 29 May 2020, 16:20 last edited by
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                              @Copper My goal, is to get past this particular outbreak until such time as proven, effective treatment, that prevents long-term health consequences from this virus, and/or vaccine is available.

                              I choose to wear a mask. A nice replaceable filter pocket homemade mask that my daughter so lovingly crafted for me. She made one for everyone in our family as well as her friends.

                              I live in a area not far from Chicago and my particular county has one the fastest growing number of cases in our state.

                              I will wear one for as long as I want to wear one.

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                              • M Mik
                                29 May 2020, 16:17

                                I know how to get people on board with masks.

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                                xenon
                                wrote on 29 May 2020, 16:21 last edited by
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                                @Mik Mana from the gods. I can't help but smile when i see bacon.

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                                • M mark
                                  29 May 2020, 16:08

                                  @Doctor-Phibes I agree with you. Sorry if I made it sound otherwise.

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                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote on 29 May 2020, 16:59 last edited by
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                                  @mark said in To Mask or Not To Mask?:

                                  @Doctor-Phibes I agree with you. Sorry if I made it sound otherwise.

                                  No, I realised you did. I wasn't being grumpy at you

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • X xenon
                                    29 May 2020, 16:14

                                    Opposing masks is such an asinine thing to oppose if you're in favor of opening up the country fast.

                                    "Hey guys - let's keep our distance and wear masks and get back out there"

                                    But, no - there's no good grievance in that message. I am genuinely a little surprise how stark the political lines have been drawn on this.

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                                    Copper
                                    wrote on 29 May 2020, 17:40 last edited by
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                                    @xenon said in To Mask or Not To Mask?:

                                    Opposing masks is such an asinine thing to oppose if you're in favor of opening up the country fast.

                                    "Hey guys - let's keep our distance and wear masks and get back out there"

                                    But, no - there's no good grievance in that message. I am genuinely a little surprise how stark the political lines have been drawn on this.

                                    It's not the mask

                                    It's the jerks telling people what to do

                                    There are a lot of people who don't like being bossed around by jerks who they know are unable to tell the truth

                                    If Mr. Trump insisted that everyone must wear a mask, cnn would condemn masks, no question

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                                    • C Copper
                                      29 May 2020, 17:40

                                      @xenon said in To Mask or Not To Mask?:

                                      Opposing masks is such an asinine thing to oppose if you're in favor of opening up the country fast.

                                      "Hey guys - let's keep our distance and wear masks and get back out there"

                                      But, no - there's no good grievance in that message. I am genuinely a little surprise how stark the political lines have been drawn on this.

                                      It's not the mask

                                      It's the jerks telling people what to do

                                      There are a lot of people who don't like being bossed around by jerks who they know are unable to tell the truth

                                      If Mr. Trump insisted that everyone must wear a mask, cnn would condemn masks, no question

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                                      Improviso
                                      wrote on 29 May 2020, 17:42 last edited by
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                                      @Copper said in To Mask or Not To Mask?:

                                      If Mr. Trump insisted that everyone must wear a mask, cnn would condemn masks, no question

                                      Exactly... you got that right.

                                      We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                                      Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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                                      • C Copper
                                        29 May 2020, 17:40

                                        @xenon said in To Mask or Not To Mask?:

                                        Opposing masks is such an asinine thing to oppose if you're in favor of opening up the country fast.

                                        "Hey guys - let's keep our distance and wear masks and get back out there"

                                        But, no - there's no good grievance in that message. I am genuinely a little surprise how stark the political lines have been drawn on this.

                                        It's not the mask

                                        It's the jerks telling people what to do

                                        There are a lot of people who don't like being bossed around by jerks who they know are unable to tell the truth

                                        If Mr. Trump insisted that everyone must wear a mask, cnn would condemn masks, no question

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                                        Improviso
                                        wrote on 29 May 2020, 17:49 last edited by
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                                        @Copper said in To Mask or Not To Mask?:

                                        It's the jerks telling people what to do

                                        And the jerks requiring it don't heed it themselves. No mask. No social distancing. Just an Executive order telling EVERYBODY else to do it..

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                                        We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                                        Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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                                          Doctor Phibes
                                          wrote on 29 May 2020, 17:54 last edited by
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                                          It's pretty funny how many people that think that being told to wear a mask is a sign of tyranny think that bringing back the draft would be a great idea.

                                          I was only joking

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