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Puzzle time - peek advantage

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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    You are about to bet on the color of the top card of a well-shuffled deck of cards (of which 26 are red, and 26 black).  You get to pick the color to bet on; if you're right you win $100, otherwise you lose the same.

    How much is it worth to you to get a peek at the bottom card of the deck?  How much more for a peek at the bottom two cards?

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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    • KlausK Offline
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      Klaus
      wrote on last edited by Klaus
      #2

      The first question sounds pretty simple.

      click to show

      98 Cents.

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      • jon-nycJ Online
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        jon-nyc
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        I get twice that for the first.

        click to show

        100/51

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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        • KlausK Offline
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          Klaus
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          Hm, am I missing something?

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          The chance of winning should be 26:51, which means on average you'd win 50.98$. Without peeking, the average would be 50$. Hence the .98$

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          • jon-nycJ Online
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            jon-nyc
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            There’s also losing to take into account.

            click to show

            With one card known your expected payoff is

            (+100)(26/51) + (-100)(25/51)
            = 100/51

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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            • KlausK Offline
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              Klaus
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              Oh, I completely missed the "otherwise you lose the same" part.

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              • jon-nycJ Online
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                jon-nyc
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                Second half is surprising.

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                • HoraceH Online
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                  Horace
                  wrote on last edited by Horace
                  #8

                  Slightly more than half the time, two card peeks give no advantage. Slightly less than half the time you get the advantage of seeing two of the same color.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • jon-nycJ Online
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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #9

                    Well sure, but how’s it net out?

                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                    • HoraceH Online
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                      Horace
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #10

                      Intuitively it is indistinguishable from the one card peek.

                      Education is extremely important.

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