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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #24

    https://www.npr.org/2020/05/29/864732088/minneapolis-seethes-over-george-floyds-death-as-trump-calls-protesters-thugs

    Minneapolis Seethes Over George Floyd's Death As Trump Calls Protesters 'THUGS'...

    President Trump, who called Floyd's death "very sad and tragic" earlier this week, said early Friday that he had told Minnesota's governor that "the Military is with him all the way."

    He also described the source of the unrest as "THUGS" — a word widely criticized for bearing racial overtones.

    And this is CNN:

    condemned the "criminals and thugs who tore up" the city

    And the White House doubled down on the term afterward

    "Whether it's arson or, you know, the looting of a liquor store ... those were thuggish acts,"

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG George K

      https://www.npr.org/2020/05/29/864732088/minneapolis-seethes-over-george-floyds-death-as-trump-calls-protesters-thugs

      Minneapolis Seethes Over George Floyd's Death As Trump Calls Protesters 'THUGS'...

      President Trump, who called Floyd's death "very sad and tragic" earlier this week, said early Friday that he had told Minnesota's governor that "the Military is with him all the way."

      He also described the source of the unrest as "THUGS" — a word widely criticized for bearing racial overtones.

      And this is CNN:

      condemned the "criminals and thugs who tore up" the city

      And the White House doubled down on the term afterward

      "Whether it's arson or, you know, the looting of a liquor store ... those were thuggish acts,"

      LuFins DadL Offline
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      LuFins Dad
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      #25

      @George-K When did the term thugs become racist? If anything, I visualize big. hulking white guys, probably Italian. Nothing racist...

      The Brad

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      • MikM Offline
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        #26

        Trump is absolutely right. Yes there is anger. Yes, some of it is righteous. Yes, a lot of these folks take advantage of that for material gain. It's always been that way. Those are the ones he's talking about. Not the legitimate peaceful protesters.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          @George-K When did the term thugs become racist? If anything, I visualize big. hulking white guys, probably Italian. Nothing racist...

          MikM Offline
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          #27

          @LuFins-Dad said in Not a riot:

          @George-K When did the term thugs become racist? If anything, I visualize big. hulking white guys, probably Italian. Nothing racist...

          No, those are wise guys.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • jon-nycJ Offline
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            #28

            Google’s take.

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            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • HoraceH Offline
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              Horace
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              #29

              The word became appropriated at some point. "Thug life" and all that.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • ImprovisoI Offline
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                Improviso
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                #30

                Dem University of Victoria white girls some tough bitches.😲

                We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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                • CopperC Offline
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                  #31

                  My recollection is that thugs originated in India, sort of an outlaw gang or groups of gangs.

                  It gets a mention in the Indiana Jones movie.

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                  • LuFins DadL Offline
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                    LuFins Dad
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                    Seriously? It was originally a racist term, but had nothing to do with African Americans but Indians. Thugs were members of the Indian Murder/Robbery Cult in India. Over time, though, it came to mean any brutish and hulking criminal.

                    At some point, the rap culture started adopting the word in a slightly different context.

                    The Brad

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                    • HoraceH Offline
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                      Horace
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                      #33

                      I grew up on the streets. I know thug life.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • X Offline
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                        xenon
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                        #34

                        The word apparently has Sanskrit origins. Still a commonly used word in Hindi for swindler.

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                        • X xenon

                          The word apparently has Sanskrit origins. Still a commonly used word in Hindi for swindler.

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                          Axtremus
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                          @xenon said in Not a riot:

                          The word apparently has Sanskrit origins.

                          Cool. I did not know that.

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                            Doctor Phibes
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                            #36

                            Hooligan is derived from Hoolihan, a well known Irish surname. Saynomore.

                            Vandals - well, I think we all know where they came from. Bloody Jerry's at it again.

                            The best they could come up with to insult my national group was something involving citrus fruit, presumably because we'd been Yanking their chain and they just bally well got tired of it, dontyaknow!

                            I was only joking

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                            • George KG Offline
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                              George K
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                              #37

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • HoraceH Offline
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                                Horace
                                wrote on last edited by Horace
                                #38

                                The notion that this only happens to people of a certain color and when the cop is of a certain color is one of the great non-sequiturs of our society. And none of our most important pop culture influencers are interested in thinking too critically about that aspect of it. But the fact is that it is perfectly plausible that this would have happened had Mr Floyd had white skin. And it is beyond plausible, certain even, that a video of such an incident would not have been seen or discussed by anybody.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  Meanwhile, all of our most virtuous messaging of the pop culture elite like Mr Obama, continues to cement the notion in everybody's heads that we have a permanent victim culture in America. And none of our most virtuous folk are particularly interested in doing any hard thinking about what exactly that idea does to people who are born into it.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    JollyJ Offline
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                                    @George-K said in Not a riot:

                                    From the man who set race relations back twenty years...

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      Copper
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #41

                                      Brilliant insight by Mr. Obama to see that bigotry and unequal treatment infect our institutions.

                                      If only we could somehow identify the bigots and unequal treaters.

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                                      • JollyJ Jolly

                                        @George-K said in Not a riot:

                                        From the man who set race relations back twenty years...

                                        George KG Offline
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                                        George K
                                        wrote on last edited by
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                                        @Jolly said in Not a riot:

                                        From the man who set race relations back twenty years...

                                        From the man who was in the White House when Ferguson and Baltimore burned.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • HoraceH Horace

                                          The notion that this only happens to people of a certain color and when the cop is of a certain color is one of the great non-sequiturs of our society. And none of our most important pop culture influencers are interested in thinking too critically about that aspect of it. But the fact is that it is perfectly plausible that this would have happened had Mr Floyd had white skin. And it is beyond plausible, certain even, that a video of such an incident would not have been seen or discussed by anybody.

                                          LuFins DadL Offline
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                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #43

                                          @Horace said in Not a riot:

                                          The notion that this only happens to people of a certain color and when the cop is of a certain color is one of the great non-sequiturs of our society. And none of our most important pop culture influencers are interested in thinking too critically about that aspect of it. But the fact is that it is perfectly plausible that this would have happened had Mr Floyd had white skin. And it is beyond plausible, certain even, that a video of such an incident would not have been seen or discussed by anybody.

                                          I made the same basic point elsewhere on this forum. The problem isn't Racism, it's Police Brutality against anybody and everybody.

                                          https://time.com/4404987/police-violence/

                                          The Brad

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