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I simply loathe radicalized mob rule regardless whether its inspiration comes from the left or the right.
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Downtown Ottawa offers the mob a target rich environment for just that sort of hooliganism.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-ottawa-truck-convoy-protests-state-of-emergency/
I know it’s difficult but be patient. You still might get your wish when the police move in to clear out those yobs. If and when it happens, I hope you are entertained. After all, you’re funding it from your side of the border.
@renauda said in Monitoring:
Downtown Ottawa offers the mob a target rich environment for just that sort of hooliganism.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-ottawa-truck-convoy-protests-state-of-emergency/
I know it’s difficult but be patient. You still might get your wish when the police move in to clear out those yobs. If and when it happens, I hope you are entertained. After all, you’re funding it from your side of the border.
Oh, I think it would make for great theater, much as threatening to take their children away from them with the power of Canadian social services. As long as the government will behave badly and the protesters won't, even the heavy bias of MSM in Canada will not dent the eventual outcome, which is making Justin Castro and crew look like a petty tyrant and his syncophants, along with certain sectors of the government...Which hopefully has a nice cascade to dump a world of shit on 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
Canada, and the USA, are behind on following the science. Hell, even Pfizer withdrew their application to give vaccinations to under 5 year-old children. This has become an endemic, not pandemic, of the vaccinated. There is no scientific basis for draconian "vaccine" mandates, if you can call something which does not prevent a disease a vaccine.
No, let people choose if they will, or will not wear a mask. If they will, or will not be vaccinated. I suspect those who are most vulnerable will continue to get the jab and may even continue to wear a N95 mask in situation where they are not comfortable. And that's good.
Life is out there. Time to live it. Without the fucking government breathing down everybody's necks and parading around like they actually have power...They should have no more power than what the people give them.
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@renauda said in Monitoring:
Downtown Ottawa offers the mob a target rich environment for just that sort of hooliganism.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-ottawa-truck-convoy-protests-state-of-emergency/
I know it’s difficult but be patient. You still might get your wish when the police move in to clear out those yobs. If and when it happens, I hope you are entertained. After all, you’re funding it from your side of the border.
Oh, I think it would make for great theater, much as threatening to take their children away from them with the power of Canadian social services. As long as the government will behave badly and the protesters won't, even the heavy bias of MSM in Canada will not dent the eventual outcome, which is making Justin Castro and crew look like a petty tyrant and his syncophants, along with certain sectors of the government...Which hopefully has a nice cascade to dump a world of shit on 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
Canada, and the USA, are behind on following the science. Hell, even Pfizer withdrew their application to give vaccinations to under 5 year-old children. This has become an endemic, not pandemic, of the vaccinated. There is no scientific basis for draconian "vaccine" mandates, if you can call something which does not prevent a disease a vaccine.
No, let people choose if they will, or will not wear a mask. If they will, or will not be vaccinated. I suspect those who are most vulnerable will continue to get the jab and may even continue to wear a N95 mask in situation where they are not comfortable. And that's good.
Life is out there. Time to live it. Without the fucking government breathing down everybody's necks and parading around like they actually have power...They should have no more power than what the people give them.
@jolly said in Monitoring:
Oh, I think it would make for great theater, much as threatening to take their children away from them with the power of Canadian social services.
I wasn't aware of such a thing Canadian social services. Again it is a provincial responsibility. Thus far the Province of Ontario has advised the protesters to remove all children from the protest area. A reasonable and prudent request under the circumstances. I also fail to see why children are even there in the first place, perhaps their parents and guardians feel that they are security against police action. Nevertheless no one has suggested that social services be brought in to round up the kids from the parents. If, however, parents with children are arrested and taken into custody, then I guess Ontario social services will be involved. It's the parents' choice if they want that to happen.
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As long as the government will behave badly and the protesters won't, even the heavy bias of MSM in Canada will not dent the eventual outcome, which is making Justin Castro and crew look like a petty tyrant and his syncophants, along with certain sectors of the government...Which hopefully has a nice cascade to dump a world of shit on 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.The implication regarding 1600 Pennsylvannia Ave. being of course that you support mob rule. Don't complain then, if and when it, for whatever reason, arrives in your neighborhood.
Since Tucker Carlson and you seem to have a hard on for Justin
TrudeauCastro, I’ll grant this much is that he is tone deaf to any issue other than the file in which is engaged in at the time. The result in this is that the Federal Government allowed itself to be blindsided by the initial Truckers protest was within days taken over by alt-right elements, domestic and foreign, whose agenda was to use the protest to undermine legitimately elected government authority, law enforcement and the economy. The Trudeau government’s failure to act on advance intelligence and prepare provincial and municipal authorities is unforgivable and plays into the desires of the radicalized protesters to force a military like response from law enforcement. And kindly don’t deny it, a violent confrontation is exactly what the protest organizers now desire most. The truckers and ordinary folks they have recruited are pawns in their insidious game of high stakes with the various levels of legitimate government and law enforcement.Canada, and the USA, are behind on following the science....This has become an endemic, not pandemic, of the vaccinated. There is no scientific basis for draconian "vaccine" mandates, if you can call something which does not prevent a disease a vaccine.*
Thankfully they are following the science. I for he most part, concur that it has now become an epidemic and should treated as such. But I believe that a staged easing of restrictions and is the best path. After all, we do not know what this virus has in store for us in couple of weeks or months. Regardless, the measures and mandates are for the most part under provincial jurisdiction which were in the process of being scaled back well before the protests began. In light of that, I now consider that the federal mandate was for truckers was on Canada's part, overkill since the US had already announced it would put the the measure in place for cross border traffic.
Let people choose if they will, or will not wear a mask.
In some circumstances, yes. Schools for one. From the onset I always felt that social distancing and masking children and teens at school is asking them to comply to behaviors that no child in history could ever manage consistently. It's even difficult for most adults.
If they will, or will not be vaccinated.
Yes and only because our whole heath care system is based on consent.
I suspect those who are most vulnerable will continue to get the jab and may even continue to wear a N95 mask in situation where they are not comfortable. And that's good.
Probably prudent for every one when going out into crowded indoor spaces.
Life is out there. Time to live it. Without the fucking government breathing down everybody's necks and parading around like they actually have power...They should have no more power than what the people give them.
I do not feel restrained or inconvenienced by government mandates and requirements. What does bother me is the inconsistency of our provincial government in establishing clear and consistent requirements for people and business. That is contrasted with Alberta Government’s unfailing consistency of failure to take ownership of its duties in the delivery of its constitutional responsibilities towards its residents throughout this pandemic. Laying the blame exclusively on Ottawa and the Trudeau government just doesn't meet muster in face of the facts. Hell, I am not even a Liberal or Justin Trudeau supporter. I'd say a pretty piss poor performance overall from not only this one, but all the Conservative Party led provincial governments throughout the country.
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Just so we're clear, I'm not in favor of public protest that shuts down commerce or impedes citizens.
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Cute, but towing falls under the respective mayors’ and affected provincial premier’s responsibility. In Ontario that would be Doug Ford. Trudeau can’t get involved unless the latter requests his towing services.
@renauda said in Monitoring:
Cute, but towing falls under the respective mayors’ and affected provincial premier’s responsibility. In Ontario that would be Doug Ford. Trudeau can’t get involved unless the latter requests his towing services.
Who nomally would use these services?
Truckers.
The same guys you haul off, are the same guys who ain't gonna call you after things get back to normal. I think the government would have to bring a considerable amount of pressure to bear.
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@renauda said in Monitoring:
Cute, but towing falls under the respective mayors’ and affected provincial premier’s responsibility. In Ontario that would be Doug Ford. Trudeau can’t get involved unless the latter requests his towing services.
Who nomally would use these services?
Truckers.
The same guys you haul off, are the same guys who ain't gonna call you after things get back to normal. I think the government would have to bring a considerable amount of pressure to bear.
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If you can't tow it with one of these, you got problems...
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@jolly said in Monitoring:
If you can't tow it with one of these, you got problems...
Not aware of such vehicles in the private sector or in any provincial government service vehicle and equipment fleet (well, maybe Quebec has one or two - don’t know). Doubt that you could even rent one. I do know who has them though and it would mean the Federal government gets directly involved and calls the shots. The hope is to avoid that.
