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Don't thaw your strip steak

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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    This makes sense for strips. Not so sure about others.

    https://sweetandsavory.co/chef-shows-cooking-frozen-meat/?utm_source=page&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=1c2c535a-86e1-4ba9-a88c-acf50732bb6e&fbclid=IwAR0Rx_bL3GzfatS8oJvmkgHk_mZG7hryjVbi1JJWgmRGduRJRiCRXlENwCo

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      #2

      OK, that's interesting.

      I'd seen similar methods before, but never such a detailed explanation.

      How to deal with it if the steak has already been frozen: Reverse sear.

      Link to video

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        George K
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        #3

        I'm liking this....

        Link to video

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • HoraceH Offline
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          Horace
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          #4

          If a steak is frozen and I want to eat it, I always thaw in a freezer bag in warm/hot water. It doesn't take long. That article uses the word "steak" as if it's just one thing. There's a big difference if the steak is much thicker.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • HoraceH Horace

            If a steak is frozen and I want to eat it, I always thaw in a freezer bag in warm/hot water. It doesn't take long. That article uses the word "steak" as if it's just one thing. There's a big difference if the steak is much thicker.

            George KG Offline
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            George K
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            #5

            @horace said in Don't thaw your strip steak:

            I always thaw in a freezer bag in warm/hot water.

            That's what I've done for the last couple of years, and I've been pretty happy. Into the sous vide, and we're good.

            Sometimes, there's a LOT more work for negligible increases in flavor. It's the same with speakers, of course, but we're talking dollars, not effort, there.

            Gotta wonder, though...

            Suppose I took a frozen steak and dropped into the sous vide (with appropriate aromatics) for 3-4 hours. I would expect the results to be the same as thawing and THEN sous vide followed by sear.

            Whaddya all think?

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              @horace said in Don't thaw your strip steak:

              I always thaw in a freezer bag in warm/hot water.

              That's what I've done for the last couple of years, and I've been pretty happy. Into the sous vide, and we're good.

              Sometimes, there's a LOT more work for negligible increases in flavor. It's the same with speakers, of course, but we're talking dollars, not effort, there.

              Gotta wonder, though...

              Suppose I took a frozen steak and dropped into the sous vide (with appropriate aromatics) for 3-4 hours. I would expect the results to be the same as thawing and THEN sous vide followed by sear.

              Whaddya all think?

              HoraceH Offline
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              Horace
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              @george-k said in Don't thaw your strip steak:

              @horace said in Don't thaw your strip steak:

              I always thaw in a freezer bag in warm/hot water.

              That's what I've done for the last couple of years, and I've been pretty happy. Into the sous vide, and we're good.

              Sometimes, there's a LOT more work for negligible increases in flavor. It's the same with speakers, of course, but we're talking dollars, not effort, there.

              Gotta wonder, though...

              Suppose I took a frozen steak and dropped into the sous vide (with appropriate aromatics) for 3-4 hours. I would expect the results to be the same as thawing and THEN sous vide followed by sear.

              Whaddya all think?

              I would only be concerned that the salt adhered to the frozen meat. It needs that adherence for the osmosis. Even just running the steak under hot water for a minute or so will create enough of a thawed surface for that, at least. Then you put whatever you want else on it, but the salt is what penetrates. The rest is surface flavor.

              Education is extremely important.

              George KG 1 Reply Last reply
              • HoraceH Horace

                @george-k said in Don't thaw your strip steak:

                @horace said in Don't thaw your strip steak:

                I always thaw in a freezer bag in warm/hot water.

                That's what I've done for the last couple of years, and I've been pretty happy. Into the sous vide, and we're good.

                Sometimes, there's a LOT more work for negligible increases in flavor. It's the same with speakers, of course, but we're talking dollars, not effort, there.

                Gotta wonder, though...

                Suppose I took a frozen steak and dropped into the sous vide (with appropriate aromatics) for 3-4 hours. I would expect the results to be the same as thawing and THEN sous vide followed by sear.

                Whaddya all think?

                I would only be concerned that the salt adhered to the frozen meat. It needs that adherence for the osmosis. Even just running the steak under hot water for a minute or so will create enough of a thawed surface for that, at least. Then you put whatever you want else on it, but the salt is what penetrates. The rest is surface flavor.

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                George K
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                @horace said in Don't thaw your strip steak:

                I would only be concerned that the salt adhered to the frozen meat.

                Ah, I didn't consider that. Watch the video I posted..."Thaw a bit, and salt and pepper it..."

                It needs that adherence for the osmosis. Even just running the steak under hot water for a minute or so will create enough of a thawed surface for that, at least. Then you put whatever you want else on it, but the salt is what penetrates. The rest is surface flavor.

                Yup.

                Mrs. George really dgaf with hers, as long as it's like a hockey puck. I am more sophisticated picky. A quick surface-thaw followed by a sous-vide to cook through, followed by a final sear (with garlic, butter, rosemary) might just make the perfect steak.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • George KG George K

                  @horace said in Don't thaw your strip steak:

                  I would only be concerned that the salt adhered to the frozen meat.

                  Ah, I didn't consider that. Watch the video I posted..."Thaw a bit, and salt and pepper it..."

                  It needs that adherence for the osmosis. Even just running the steak under hot water for a minute or so will create enough of a thawed surface for that, at least. Then you put whatever you want else on it, but the salt is what penetrates. The rest is surface flavor.

                  Yup.

                  Mrs. George really dgaf with hers, as long as it's like a hockey puck. I am more sophisticated picky. A quick surface-thaw followed by a sous-vide to cook through, followed by a final sear (with garlic, butter, rosemary) might just make the perfect steak.

                  HoraceH Offline
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                  @george-k said in Don't thaw your strip steak:

                  @horace said in Don't thaw your strip steak:

                  I would only be concerned that the salt adhered to the frozen meat.

                  Ah, I didn't consider that. Watch the video I posted..."Thaw a bit, and salt and pepper it..."

                  It needs that adherence for the osmosis. Even just running the steak under hot water for a minute or so will create enough of a thawed surface for that, at least. Then you put whatever you want else on it, but the salt is what penetrates. The rest is surface flavor.

                  Yup.

                  Mrs. George really dgaf with hers, as long as it's like a hockey puck. I am more sophisticated picky. A quick surface-thaw followed by a sous-vide to cook through, followed by a final sear (with garlic, butter, rosemary) might just make the perfect steak.

                  Sounds great to me. Rosemary is my favorite herb. I have some growing outside. It's best with lamb but it's good with steak too. Infused butter and all that. My wife eats the rosemary raw.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • HoraceH Horace

                    @george-k said in Don't thaw your strip steak:

                    @horace said in Don't thaw your strip steak:

                    I would only be concerned that the salt adhered to the frozen meat.

                    Ah, I didn't consider that. Watch the video I posted..."Thaw a bit, and salt and pepper it..."

                    It needs that adherence for the osmosis. Even just running the steak under hot water for a minute or so will create enough of a thawed surface for that, at least. Then you put whatever you want else on it, but the salt is what penetrates. The rest is surface flavor.

                    Yup.

                    Mrs. George really dgaf with hers, as long as it's like a hockey puck. I am more sophisticated picky. A quick surface-thaw followed by a sous-vide to cook through, followed by a final sear (with garlic, butter, rosemary) might just make the perfect steak.

                    Sounds great to me. Rosemary is my favorite herb. I have some growing outside. It's best with lamb but it's good with steak too. Infused butter and all that. My wife eats the rosemary raw.

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                    George K
                    wrote on last edited by
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                    @horace said in Don't thaw your strip steak:

                    My wife eats the rosemary raw

                    Well, she married you, didn't she?

                    So I won't comment on her taste, LOL.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG George K

                      @horace said in Don't thaw your strip steak:

                      My wife eats the rosemary raw

                      Well, she married you, didn't she?

                      So I won't comment on her taste, LOL.

                      HoraceH Offline
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                      @george-k said in Don't thaw your strip steak:

                      @horace said in Don't thaw your strip steak:

                      My wife eats the rosemary raw

                      Well, she married you, didn't she?

                      So I won't comment on her taste, LOL.

                      She's questioning that decision at this point. It's all become too complicated.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • MikM Offline
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                        #11

                        I eat raw herbs too.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • MikM Mik

                          I eat raw herbs too.

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                          @mik said in Don't thaw your strip steak:

                          I eat raw herbs too.

                          I would never have guessed.

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                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Never frozen a steak before. I buy them the day I make them.

                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                            -Cormac McCarthy

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                              Just to make u all think I’m crazy, tonight’s dinner was carpaccio. Fillet steak cut very thin, hammered thin actually, a touch of olive oil and pepper, and eaten raw. Yummmm. Ok, we had some French fries on the side. And those we did heat up.

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                                How do you slice it? Do you have an electric slicer?

                                Just had some Bresaola last week that was great.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • MikM Mik

                                  How do you slice it? Do you have an electric slicer?

                                  Just had some Bresaola last week that was great.

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                                  bachophile
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                                  @mik butcher does it

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                                    Just to make u all think I’m crazy, tonight’s dinner was carpaccio. Fillet steak cut very thin, hammered thin actually, a touch of olive oil and pepper, and eaten raw. Yummmm. Ok, we had some French fries on the side. And those we did heat up.

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                                    @bachophile said in Don't thaw your strip steak:

                                    Just to make u all think I’m crazy, tonight’s dinner was carpaccio. Fillet steak cut very thin, hammered thin actually, a touch of olive oil and pepper, and eaten raw. Yummmm. Ok, we had some French fries on the side. And those we did heat up.

                                    I came very close to ordering tartare the other evening and was thinking of you while I was considering it…

                                    The Brad

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      Never frozen a steak before. I buy them the day I make them.

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                                      @jon-nyc said in Don't thaw your strip steak:

                                      Never frozen a steak before. I buy them the day I make them.

                                      I’ve got two Rib roasts in the freezer. One’s being cut down for ribeyes next week, the other will be made into Prime Rib for my Birthday…

                                      The Brad

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                                        @bachophile said in Don't thaw your strip steak:

                                        Just to make u all think I’m crazy, tonight’s dinner was carpaccio. Fillet steak cut very thin, hammered thin actually, a touch of olive oil and pepper, and eaten raw. Yummmm. Ok, we had some French fries on the side. And those we did heat up.

                                        I came very close to ordering tartare the other evening and was thinking of you while I was considering it…

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                                        bachophile
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                                        @lufins-dad tartare is great...dont forget the raw egg...

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                                          I got home from work and was preparing to cook dinner when I discovered the chicken breasts I had put in the fridge over night were still mostly frozen (a certain toddler can reach the refrigerator settings now)… I was going to put them back in and thaw for tomorrow when I remembered this thread…

                                          So I tossed them between a couple of pieces of Saran Wrap, pounded the hell out of them with a mallet, tossed on some lemon pepper and seared them for 1 minute each side in the cast iron then put them in a 400 degree oven. It took 20 more bites to come to temp, but these were the best chicken breasts I ever cooked…

                                          The Brad

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