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  • J Jolly
    19 Feb 2022, 01:31

    So lad, I'll say what I damn well please about Fidel Trudeau.

    Enjoy!

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    Renauda
    wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 01:41 last edited by Renauda
    #174

    @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

    So lad, I'll say what I damn well please about Fidel Trudeau.

    Enjoy!

    Have at it. Quite unlike Presidents of republics, PM’s are there to be vilified and pilloried with impunity. That is called The House of Commons and Parliament. Certainly never shown respect, unless if course, they die in office, suffer some sort of family misfortune or resign their leadership in advance of being turfed by their own cabinet and caucus. I would expect Phibes to understand the nuance, but not you.

    Besides I have not voted Liberal since the days of Chretien.

    So be my guest and have at him, he probably is Castro’s bastard, but that’s not why I voted for the other party.

    Elbows up!

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      Jolly
      wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 02:02 last edited by
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      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • R Renauda
        19 Feb 2022, 01:41

        @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

        So lad, I'll say what I damn well please about Fidel Trudeau.

        Enjoy!

        Have at it. Quite unlike Presidents of republics, PM’s are there to be vilified and pilloried with impunity. That is called The House of Commons and Parliament. Certainly never shown respect, unless if course, they die in office, suffer some sort of family misfortune or resign their leadership in advance of being turfed by their own cabinet and caucus. I would expect Phibes to understand the nuance, but not you.

        Besides I have not voted Liberal since the days of Chretien.

        So be my guest and have at him, he probably is Castro’s bastard, but that’s not why I voted for the other party.

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        Doctor Phibes
        wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 02:18 last edited by Doctor Phibes
        #176

        @Renauda said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

        I would expect Phibes to understand the nuance, but not you.

        There's definitely a different feeling over here regarding their Head of State than there is about the PM, who it's worth emphasizing is not Head of State.

        The kind of reverence with which certain groups in the US held both Obama and Trump really wouldn't work in any sane parliamentary democracy.

        The Brits all know Boris is a conniving twat, even people who voted for him do. Some of you lot talked about Obama and Trump although they were the second coming.

        The only PM my father (possibly the nicest and kindest man I ever met) ever spoke about respectfully was Winston Churchill, and he was kind of special.

        I was only joking

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        • G George K
          19 Feb 2022, 01:11

          @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

          AP wrote some of the police were carrying automatic weapons

          C'mon. Do you really thing the Associated Press knows the difference between automatic and semi-automatic weapons?

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          Jolly
          wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 02:54 last edited by
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          @George-K said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

          @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

          AP wrote some of the police were carrying automatic weapons

          C'mon. Do you really thing the Associated Press knows the difference between automatic and semi-automatic weapons?

          BTW, I've been watching some of the footage. Some of the police are definitely carrying AR's. I can't conceive of why they would need them - by all accounts, these protesters are not armed - or why you would discharge such a weapon in a crowd setting.

          The other weapons I noticed are tear gas guns with revolving cylinders. Besides normal sidearms, which any officer down here would carry.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 03:26 last edited by
            #178

            I thought it was pretty much standard practice in America to shoot people who didn't do what the police told them.

            There are certainly plenty of examples of people saying 'I don't know why people just don't do what they're told when challenged'.

            Or is that just black fellah's pulled over for minor traffic violations?

            I was only joking

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            • D Doctor Phibes
              19 Feb 2022, 03:26

              I thought it was pretty much standard practice in America to shoot people who didn't do what the police told them.

              There are certainly plenty of examples of people saying 'I don't know why people just don't do what they're told when challenged'.

              Or is that just black fellah's pulled over for minor traffic violations?

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              Jolly
              wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 03:33 last edited by
              #179

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

              I thought it was pretty much standard practice in America to shoot people who didn't do what the police told them.

              There are certainly plenty of examples of people saying 'I don't know why people just don't do what they're told when challenged'.

              Or is that just black fellah's pulled over for minor traffic violations?

              No, just snobby Brits

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • J Jolly
                18 Feb 2022, 23:54

                When you seize people's bank accounts, you have violated Charter Rights.

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                Renauda
                wrote on 20 Feb 2022, 01:48 last edited by
                #180

                @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                When you seize people's bank accounts, you have violated Charter Rights.

                No you are wrong, dead wrong. Read the following and if you do not understand the first time read it again. If a third time is over your pinhead, it let me know. I am happy to explain.

                https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/csj-sjc/rfc-dlc/ccrf-ccdl/check/art1.html

                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_1_of_the_Canadian_Charter_of_Rights_and_Freedoms

                Wish I remembered Section One of the Chartervl yesterday, but then I don’t pretend to be a civil liberties expert.

                Elbows up!

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 20 Feb 2022, 01:58 last edited by Jolly
                  #181

                  Is it because there are some outside influences in Canada?

                  https://mobile.twitter.com/LoveMTB/status/1495068948861100038?s=20&t=gdrPuvqsG_HXQviqkV7jGA

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • J Jolly
                    20 Feb 2022, 01:58

                    Is it because there are some outside influences in Canada?

                    https://mobile.twitter.com/LoveMTB/status/1495068948861100038?s=20&t=gdrPuvqsG_HXQviqkV7jGA

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                    Renauda
                    wrote on 20 Feb 2022, 02:04 last edited by Renauda
                    #182

                    @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                    Is it because there are some outside influences in Canada?

                    https://mobile.twitter.com/LoveMTB/status/1495068948861100038?cxt=HHwWjICpubXSxr8pAAAA

                    I don’t have a twatter account.

                    Stop punting your bullshit distractions back and avoiding facts when they are presented to you. Just fucking read Section One. If it’s not clear to you, it’s clear to me and follow my earlier advice.

                    Elbows up!

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 20 Feb 2022, 02:10 last edited by
                      #183

                      Normally, the twitter thread will post. You can probably cut and paste that address.

                      Regardless, it's a case of the speaker cutting off a MP, citing bad video and audio (which is quite clear) for asking a question about Klaus Schwab. Klaus has boasted he has infiltrated the Canadian government.

                      I thought it a very innocuous question to be tamped down so quickly. In the midst of a civil rights protest debate, I thought it odd to dismiss it so crudely.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • J Jolly
                        20 Feb 2022, 02:10

                        Normally, the twitter thread will post. You can probably cut and paste that address.

                        Regardless, it's a case of the speaker cutting off a MP, citing bad video and audio (which is quite clear) for asking a question about Klaus Schwab. Klaus has boasted he has infiltrated the Canadian government.

                        I thought it a very innocuous question to be tamped down so quickly. In the midst of a civil rights protest debate, I thought it odd to dismiss it so crudely.

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                        Renauda
                        wrote on 20 Feb 2022, 02:14 last edited by
                        #184

                        @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                        Normally, the twitter thread will post. You can probably cut and paste that address.

                        Regardless, it's a case of the speaker cutting off a MP, citing bad video and audio (which is quite clear) for asking a question about Klaus Schwab. Klaus has boasted he has infiltrated the Canadian government.

                        I thought it a very innocuous question to be tamped down so quickly. In the midst of a civil rights protest debate, I thought it odd to dismiss it so crudely.

                        Stop explaining yourself and read Section One of the Charter.

                        Elbows up!

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 20 Feb 2022, 02:15 last edited by
                          #185

                          Gee, that's one cover that hasn't aged well...

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                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • R Renauda
                            20 Feb 2022, 02:14

                            @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                            Normally, the twitter thread will post. You can probably cut and paste that address.

                            Regardless, it's a case of the speaker cutting off a MP, citing bad video and audio (which is quite clear) for asking a question about Klaus Schwab. Klaus has boasted he has infiltrated the Canadian government.

                            I thought it a very innocuous question to be tamped down so quickly. In the midst of a civil rights protest debate, I thought it odd to dismiss it so crudely.

                            Stop explaining yourself and read Section One of the Charter.

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 20 Feb 2022, 02:16 last edited by
                            #186

                            @Renauda said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                            @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                            Normally, the twitter thread will post. You can probably cut and paste that address.

                            Regardless, it's a case of the speaker cutting off a MP, citing bad video and audio (which is quite clear) for asking a question about Klaus Schwab. Klaus has boasted he has infiltrated the Canadian government.

                            I thought it a very innocuous question to be tamped down so quickly. In the midst of a civil rights protest debate, I thought it odd to dismiss it so crudely.

                            Stop explaining yourself and read Section One of the Charter.

                            I've read it. I cited it a couple of days ago. I feel Fidel Trudeau has violated it.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 20 Feb 2022, 02:18 last edited by
                              #187

                              Speaking of...

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                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • J Jolly
                                20 Feb 2022, 02:16

                                @Renauda said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                                @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                                Normally, the twitter thread will post. You can probably cut and paste that address.

                                Regardless, it's a case of the speaker cutting off a MP, citing bad video and audio (which is quite clear) for asking a question about Klaus Schwab. Klaus has boasted he has infiltrated the Canadian government.

                                I thought it a very innocuous question to be tamped down so quickly. In the midst of a civil rights protest debate, I thought it odd to dismiss it so crudely.

                                Stop explaining yourself and read Section One of the Charter.

                                I've read it. I cited it a couple of days ago. I feel Fidel Trudeau has violated it.

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                                Renauda
                                wrote on 20 Feb 2022, 02:22 last edited by
                                #188

                                @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                                @Renauda said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                                @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                                Normally, the twitter thread will post. You can probably cut and paste that address.

                                Regardless, it's a case of the speaker cutting off a MP, citing bad video and audio (which is quite clear) for asking a question about Klaus Schwab. Klaus has boasted he has infiltrated the Canadian government.

                                I thought it a very innocuous question to be tamped down so quickly. In the midst of a civil rights protest debate, I thought it odd to dismiss it so crudely.

                                Stop explaining yourself and read Section One of the Charter.

                                I've read it. I cited it a couple of days ago. I feel Fidel Trudeau has violated it.

                                You read it and not understood one word of Section One.

                                hint : Look up the word “notwithstanding” .

                                Elbows up!

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on 20 Feb 2022, 02:26 last edited by
                                  #189

                                  Ain't irony ironic?

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                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • J Jolly
                                    20 Feb 2022, 02:16

                                    @Renauda said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                                    @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                                    Normally, the twitter thread will post. You can probably cut and paste that address.

                                    Regardless, it's a case of the speaker cutting off a MP, citing bad video and audio (which is quite clear) for asking a question about Klaus Schwab. Klaus has boasted he has infiltrated the Canadian government.

                                    I thought it a very innocuous question to be tamped down so quickly. In the midst of a civil rights protest debate, I thought it odd to dismiss it so crudely.

                                    Stop explaining yourself and read Section One of the Charter.

                                    I've read it. I cited it a couple of days ago. I feel Fidel Trudeau has violated it.

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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on 20 Feb 2022, 02:59 last edited by Renauda
                                    #190

                                    @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                                    @Renauda said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                                    @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                                    Normally, the twitter thread will post. You can probably cut and paste that address.

                                    Regardless, it's a case of the speaker cutting off a MP, citing bad video and audio (which is quite clear) for asking a question about Klaus Schwab. Klaus has boasted he has infiltrated the Canadian government.

                                    I thought it a very innocuous question to be tamped down so quickly. In the midst of a civil rights protest debate, I thought it odd to dismiss it so crudely.

                                    Stop explaining yourself and read Section One of the Charter.

                                    I've read it. I cited it a couple of days ago.

                                    Maybe, although I suspect you are lying through your teeth. And if you did read it, you didn’t understand it. Or more likely your pride in your ignorance didn’t want to you to understand it. No surprise.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • R Renauda
                                      20 Feb 2022, 02:59

                                      @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                                      @Renauda said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                                      @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                                      Normally, the twitter thread will post. You can probably cut and paste that address.

                                      Regardless, it's a case of the speaker cutting off a MP, citing bad video and audio (which is quite clear) for asking a question about Klaus Schwab. Klaus has boasted he has infiltrated the Canadian government.

                                      I thought it a very innocuous question to be tamped down so quickly. In the midst of a civil rights protest debate, I thought it odd to dismiss it so crudely.

                                      Stop explaining yourself and read Section One of the Charter.

                                      I've read it. I cited it a couple of days ago.

                                      Maybe, although I suspect you are lying through your teeth. And if you did read it, you didn’t understand it. Or more likely your pride in your ignorance didn’t want to you to understand it. No surprise.

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 20 Feb 2022, 04:25 last edited by
                                      #191

                                      @Renauda said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                                      @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                                      @Renauda said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                                      @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                                      Normally, the twitter thread will post. You can probably cut and paste that address.

                                      Regardless, it's a case of the speaker cutting off a MP, citing bad video and audio (which is quite clear) for asking a question about Klaus Schwab. Klaus has boasted he has infiltrated the Canadian government.

                                      I thought it a very innocuous question to be tamped down so quickly. In the midst of a civil rights protest debate, I thought it odd to dismiss it so crudely.

                                      Stop explaining yourself and read Section One of the Charter.

                                      I've read it. I cited it a couple of days ago.

                                      Maybe, although I suspect you are lying through your teeth. And if you did read it, you didn’t understand it. Or more likely your pride in your ignorance didn’t want to you to understand it. No surprise.

                                      I cited Section 8.

                                      And you, lad, can go fuck yourself or the nearest unwilling sheep.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • J Jolly
                                        20 Feb 2022, 04:25

                                        @Renauda said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                                        @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                                        @Renauda said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                                        @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                                        Normally, the twitter thread will post. You can probably cut and paste that address.

                                        Regardless, it's a case of the speaker cutting off a MP, citing bad video and audio (which is quite clear) for asking a question about Klaus Schwab. Klaus has boasted he has infiltrated the Canadian government.

                                        I thought it a very innocuous question to be tamped down so quickly. In the midst of a civil rights protest debate, I thought it odd to dismiss it so crudely.

                                        Stop explaining yourself and read Section One of the Charter.

                                        I've read it. I cited it a couple of days ago.

                                        Maybe, although I suspect you are lying through your teeth. And if you did read it, you didn’t understand it. Or more likely your pride in your ignorance didn’t want to you to understand it. No surprise.

                                        I cited Section 8.

                                        And you, lad, can go fuck yourself or the nearest unwilling sheep.

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on 20 Feb 2022, 05:12 last edited by Renauda
                                        #192

                                        @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                                        @Renauda said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                                        @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                                        @Renauda said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                                        @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                                        Normally, the twitter thread will post. You can probably cut and paste that address.

                                        Regardless, it's a case of the speaker cutting off a MP, citing bad video and audio (which is quite clear) for asking a question about Klaus Schwab. Klaus has boasted he has infiltrated the Canadian government.

                                        I thought it a very innocuous question to be tamped down so quickly. In the midst of a civil rights protest debate, I thought it odd to dismiss it so crudely.

                                        Stop explaining yourself and read Section One of the Charter.

                                        I've read it. I cited it a couple of days ago.

                                        Maybe, although I suspect you are lying through your teeth. And if you did read it, you didn’t understand it. Or more likely your pride in your ignorance didn’t want to you to understand it. No surprise.

                                        I cited Section 8.

                                        And you, lad, can go fuck yourself or the nearest unwilling sheep.

                                        That was yesterday and this evening I told you in response to read Section One and posted the links. So stop trying to say otherwise, it makes your nose look long and your pants smoulder.

                                        Section 1 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms is the section that confirms that the rights listed in the Charter are guaranteed. The section is also known as the reasonable limits clause or limitations clause, as it legally allows the government to limit an individual's Charter rights. This limitation on rights has been used in the last twenty years to prevent a variety of objectionable conduct such as hate speech (e.g., in R v Keegstra) and obscenity (e.g., in R v Butler).

                                        When the government has limited an individual's right, there is an onus upon the Crown to show, on the balance of probabilities, firstly, that the limitation was prescribed by law namely, that the law is attuned to the values of accessibility and intelligibility; and secondly, that it is justified in a free and democratic society, which means that it must have a justifiable purpose and must be proportional. As usual you responded by your usual bullshit memes and distractions. You have been caught in you

                                        You need to read and understand Section One. Section One governs all subsequent sections of the Charter. Here in a nut shell is what Section One states:

                                        Section 1 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms is the section that confirms that the rights listed in the Charter are guaranteed. The section is also known as the reasonable limits clause or limitations clause, as it legally allows the government to limit an individual's Charter rights. This limitation on rights has been used in the last twenty years to prevent a variety of objectionable conduct such as hate speech (e.g., in R v Keegstra) and obscenity (e.g., in R v Butler).

                                        When the government has limited an individual's right, there is an onus upon the Crown to show, on the balance of probabilities, firstly, that the limitation was prescribed by law namely, that the law is attuned to the values of accessibility and intelligibility; and secondly, that it is justified in a free and democratic society, which means that it must have a justifiable purpose and must be proportional.

                                        So, you are wrong. Section One spells out that a person’s charter rights are not absolute as you claim, but are subject to reasonable limitations.

                                        In response to your last barb, you can just go fuck off and die.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 20 Feb 2022, 12:49 last edited by
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                                          Be careful, I think you have now crossed over into the vaunted Canadian definition of hate speech, which is to say, any speech the government does not like .

                                          Again, a case where your government upholds it's Charter or ignores it, as the whim strikes it

                                          And if you just want to die, go ahead. I won't stand in your way

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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