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  • J Jolly
    18 Feb 2022, 23:54

    When you seize people's bank accounts, you have violated Charter Rights.

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    Renauda
    wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 00:17 last edited by Renauda
    #164

    @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

    When you seize people's bank accounts, you have violated Charter Rights.

    Damnit, I forgot you’re an expert on Canadian constitutional law. I would have never known you were a backyard barrister for Canadian civil liberties.

    There are some lawyers and civil liberties advocates here as well voicing similar concerns. They too are experts and I respect their expertise and reasoned arguments on this topic. Their expertise comes from study and years of professional experience in these matters.

    Your purported expertise on the other hand, comes from Fox News and other disreputable sources. It also comes from your ignorance of knowing much of anything about this subject.

    Elbows up!

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      Jolly
      wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 00:37 last edited by
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      I didn't realize that the Canadian Charter was written in ancient Sanskrit and only accessible by those wielding an appropriate Rosetta Stone.

      Everyone has the right to be secure against unreasonable search or seizure.

      Seems simple enough to me.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • R Renauda
        19 Feb 2022, 00:17

        @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

        When you seize people's bank accounts, you have violated Charter Rights.

        Damnit, I forgot you’re an expert on Canadian constitutional law. I would have never known you were a backyard barrister for Canadian civil liberties.

        There are some lawyers and civil liberties advocates here as well voicing similar concerns. They too are experts and I respect their expertise and reasoned arguments on this topic. Their expertise comes from study and years of professional experience in these matters.

        Your purported expertise on the other hand, comes from Fox News and other disreputable sources. It also comes from your ignorance of knowing much of anything about this subject.

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        Jolly
        wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 00:38 last edited by
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        @Renauda said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

        @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

        When you seize people's bank accounts, you have violated Charter Rights.

        Damnit, I forgot you’re an expert on Canadian constitutional law. I would have never known you were a backyard barrister for Canadian civil liberties.

        There are some lawyers and civil liberties advocates here as well voicing similar concerns. They too are experts and I respect their expertise and reasoned arguments on this topic. Their expertise comes from study and years of professional experience in these matters.

        Your purported expertise on the other hand, comes from Fox News and other disreputable sources. It also comes from your ignorance of knowing much of anything about this subject.

        Then lad, STFU about any and all things American, if that is the standard you wish to use for conversation.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          Jolly
          wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 00:59 last edited by
          #167

          Well, at least Canada will always stand up for the right to peaceful protest...

          Link to video

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Jolly
            wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 01:02 last edited by
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            But, at least the cops were polite...

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • J Jolly
              19 Feb 2022, 01:02

              But, at least the cops were polite...

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              Jolly
              wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 01:04 last edited by Jolly
              #169

              BTW, AP wrote some of the police were carrying automatic weapons. That's interesting...

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • J Jolly
                19 Feb 2022, 01:04

                BTW, AP wrote some of the police were carrying automatic weapons. That's interesting...

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                George K
                wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 01:11 last edited by
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                @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                AP wrote some of the police were carrying automatic weapons

                C'mon. Do you really thing the Associated Press knows the difference between automatic and semi-automatic weapons?

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • G George K
                  19 Feb 2022, 01:11

                  @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                  AP wrote some of the police were carrying automatic weapons

                  C'mon. Do you really thing the Associated Press knows the difference between automatic and semi-automatic weapons?

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 01:13 last edited by
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                  @George-K said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                  @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                  AP wrote some of the police were carrying automatic weapons

                  C'mon. Do you really thing the Associated Press knows the difference between automatic and semi-automatic weapons?

                  Doubt it. I assume they were carrying AR-15's. Would be a hoot if they carrying something like MP5's...

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • J Jolly
                    19 Feb 2022, 00:38

                    @Renauda said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                    @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                    When you seize people's bank accounts, you have violated Charter Rights.

                    Damnit, I forgot you’re an expert on Canadian constitutional law. I would have never known you were a backyard barrister for Canadian civil liberties.

                    There are some lawyers and civil liberties advocates here as well voicing similar concerns. They too are experts and I respect their expertise and reasoned arguments on this topic. Their expertise comes from study and years of professional experience in these matters.

                    Your purported expertise on the other hand, comes from Fox News and other disreputable sources. It also comes from your ignorance of knowing much of anything about this subject.

                    Then lad, STFU about any and all things American, if that is the standard you wish to use for conversation.

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                    Renauda
                    wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 01:15 last edited by Renauda
                    #172

                    @Jolly said in [Xenon, the White Supremacist](/post/141288

                    Then lad, STFU about any and all things American, if that is the standard you wish to use for conversation.

                    With extreme pleasure and prejudice Beauregard, with the caveat that if something or some policy in the USA affects this country or Canadians or if the the same has an international or foreign policy dimension, I’ll write whatever I bloody well please about “things American”or the US government. That is the price you as an American must pay for from all non Americans in the era of Pax Americana.

                    Capice? You’d better.

                    Elbows up!

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 01:31 last edited by
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                      So lad, I'll say what I damn well please about Fidel Trudeau.

                      Enjoy!

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • J Jolly
                        19 Feb 2022, 01:31

                        So lad, I'll say what I damn well please about Fidel Trudeau.

                        Enjoy!

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                        Renauda
                        wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 01:41 last edited by Renauda
                        #174

                        @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                        So lad, I'll say what I damn well please about Fidel Trudeau.

                        Enjoy!

                        Have at it. Quite unlike Presidents of republics, PM’s are there to be vilified and pilloried with impunity. That is called The House of Commons and Parliament. Certainly never shown respect, unless if course, they die in office, suffer some sort of family misfortune or resign their leadership in advance of being turfed by their own cabinet and caucus. I would expect Phibes to understand the nuance, but not you.

                        Besides I have not voted Liberal since the days of Chretien.

                        So be my guest and have at him, he probably is Castro’s bastard, but that’s not why I voted for the other party.

                        Elbows up!

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 02:02 last edited by
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                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            19 Feb 2022, 01:41

                            @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                            So lad, I'll say what I damn well please about Fidel Trudeau.

                            Enjoy!

                            Have at it. Quite unlike Presidents of republics, PM’s are there to be vilified and pilloried with impunity. That is called The House of Commons and Parliament. Certainly never shown respect, unless if course, they die in office, suffer some sort of family misfortune or resign their leadership in advance of being turfed by their own cabinet and caucus. I would expect Phibes to understand the nuance, but not you.

                            Besides I have not voted Liberal since the days of Chretien.

                            So be my guest and have at him, he probably is Castro’s bastard, but that’s not why I voted for the other party.

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                            Doctor Phibes
                            wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 02:18 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                            #176

                            @Renauda said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                            I would expect Phibes to understand the nuance, but not you.

                            There's definitely a different feeling over here regarding their Head of State than there is about the PM, who it's worth emphasizing is not Head of State.

                            The kind of reverence with which certain groups in the US held both Obama and Trump really wouldn't work in any sane parliamentary democracy.

                            The Brits all know Boris is a conniving twat, even people who voted for him do. Some of you lot talked about Obama and Trump although they were the second coming.

                            The only PM my father (possibly the nicest and kindest man I ever met) ever spoke about respectfully was Winston Churchill, and he was kind of special.

                            I was only joking

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                            • G George K
                              19 Feb 2022, 01:11

                              @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                              AP wrote some of the police were carrying automatic weapons

                              C'mon. Do you really thing the Associated Press knows the difference between automatic and semi-automatic weapons?

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 02:54 last edited by
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                              @George-K said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                              @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                              AP wrote some of the police were carrying automatic weapons

                              C'mon. Do you really thing the Associated Press knows the difference between automatic and semi-automatic weapons?

                              BTW, I've been watching some of the footage. Some of the police are definitely carrying AR's. I can't conceive of why they would need them - by all accounts, these protesters are not armed - or why you would discharge such a weapon in a crowd setting.

                              The other weapons I noticed are tear gas guns with revolving cylinders. Besides normal sidearms, which any officer down here would carry.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 03:26 last edited by
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                                I thought it was pretty much standard practice in America to shoot people who didn't do what the police told them.

                                There are certainly plenty of examples of people saying 'I don't know why people just don't do what they're told when challenged'.

                                Or is that just black fellah's pulled over for minor traffic violations?

                                I was only joking

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                                • D Doctor Phibes
                                  19 Feb 2022, 03:26

                                  I thought it was pretty much standard practice in America to shoot people who didn't do what the police told them.

                                  There are certainly plenty of examples of people saying 'I don't know why people just don't do what they're told when challenged'.

                                  Or is that just black fellah's pulled over for minor traffic violations?

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 03:33 last edited by
                                  #179

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                                  I thought it was pretty much standard practice in America to shoot people who didn't do what the police told them.

                                  There are certainly plenty of examples of people saying 'I don't know why people just don't do what they're told when challenged'.

                                  Or is that just black fellah's pulled over for minor traffic violations?

                                  No, just snobby Brits

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • J Jolly
                                    18 Feb 2022, 23:54

                                    When you seize people's bank accounts, you have violated Charter Rights.

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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on 20 Feb 2022, 01:48 last edited by
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                                    @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                                    When you seize people's bank accounts, you have violated Charter Rights.

                                    No you are wrong, dead wrong. Read the following and if you do not understand the first time read it again. If a third time is over your pinhead, it let me know. I am happy to explain.

                                    https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/csj-sjc/rfc-dlc/ccrf-ccdl/check/art1.html

                                    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_1_of_the_Canadian_Charter_of_Rights_and_Freedoms

                                    Wish I remembered Section One of the Chartervl yesterday, but then I don’t pretend to be a civil liberties expert.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 20 Feb 2022, 01:58 last edited by Jolly
                                      #181

                                      Is it because there are some outside influences in Canada?

                                      https://mobile.twitter.com/LoveMTB/status/1495068948861100038?s=20&t=gdrPuvqsG_HXQviqkV7jGA

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • J Jolly
                                        20 Feb 2022, 01:58

                                        Is it because there are some outside influences in Canada?

                                        https://mobile.twitter.com/LoveMTB/status/1495068948861100038?s=20&t=gdrPuvqsG_HXQviqkV7jGA

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on 20 Feb 2022, 02:04 last edited by Renauda
                                        #182

                                        @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                                        Is it because there are some outside influences in Canada?

                                        https://mobile.twitter.com/LoveMTB/status/1495068948861100038?cxt=HHwWjICpubXSxr8pAAAA

                                        I don’t have a twatter account.

                                        Stop punting your bullshit distractions back and avoiding facts when they are presented to you. Just fucking read Section One. If it’s not clear to you, it’s clear to me and follow my earlier advice.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 20 Feb 2022, 02:10 last edited by
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                                          Normally, the twitter thread will post. You can probably cut and paste that address.

                                          Regardless, it's a case of the speaker cutting off a MP, citing bad video and audio (which is quite clear) for asking a question about Klaus Schwab. Klaus has boasted he has infiltrated the Canadian government.

                                          I thought it a very innocuous question to be tamped down so quickly. In the midst of a civil rights protest debate, I thought it odd to dismiss it so crudely.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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