Xenon, the White Supremacist

[Renauda]

@Jolly

Yeah , the government here is being decidedly unAmerican. How dare they, eh? An outrage! It’s causing heads to explode all over the USA.

So how about you admitting that you don’t know what you’re even talking about. But keep searching anyway.

In the meantime, the police are doing an exemplary job of shutting it all down slowly, methodically and making arrests only when necessary. All the organizers are now in police custody. Although a few occupiers were earlier trying put their children between them and the advancing police line, most depart voluntarily when ordered.

Just glad to see it coming to what looks to be a peaceful end. You should be too.

[LuFins Dad]

@Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

What does Section 8 of Canada's Charter say? Something about unreasonable search and seizure?

The Canadian government has called the Trucker's Protest domestic terrorism, and as such, has seized their bank accounts. has seized donations given to them electronically and has even seized fungible currencies, such as Bitcoin, which supposedly was immune from government meddling.

And then, donors were doxxed left and right. The jury is still out whether that information was sourced by independent hackers or Canadian government hackers.

So...How does a peaceful protest (and the protest in Ottawa has been remarkable peaceful for that many people) equate to domestic terrorism? Especially enough for Fidel Trudeau to declare an Emergency Powers Act?

It would seem the hacking of Give-Send0Go would be as much or more of a terrorist attack than blocking streets?

[Jolly]

I dunno. How about threatening to kill their dogs?

Link to video

[Renauda]

You dial it up, I’ll dial it down:

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-why-ottawa-was-justified-in-invoking-the-emergencies-act/

[Jolly]

When you seize people's bank accounts, you have violated Charter Rights.

[Renauda]

@Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

When you seize people's bank accounts, you have violated Charter Rights.

Damnit, I forgot you’re an expert on Canadian constitutional law. I would have never known you were a backyard barrister for Canadian civil liberties.

There are some lawyers and civil liberties advocates here as well voicing similar concerns. They too are experts and I respect their expertise and reasoned arguments on this topic. Their expertise comes from study and years of professional experience in these matters.

Your purported expertise on the other hand, comes from Fox News and other disreputable sources. It also comes from your ignorance of knowing much of anything about this subject.

[Jolly]

I didn't realize that the Canadian Charter was written in ancient Sanskrit and only accessible by those wielding an appropriate Rosetta Stone.

Everyone has the right to be secure against unreasonable search or seizure.

Seems simple enough to me.

[Jolly]

@Renauda said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

@Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

When you seize people's bank accounts, you have violated Charter Rights.

Damnit, I forgot you’re an expert on Canadian constitutional law. I would have never known you were a backyard barrister for Canadian civil liberties.

There are some lawyers and civil liberties advocates here as well voicing similar concerns. They too are experts and I respect their expertise and reasoned arguments on this topic. Their expertise comes from study and years of professional experience in these matters.

Your purported expertise on the other hand, comes from Fox News and other disreputable sources. It also comes from your ignorance of knowing much of anything about this subject.

Then lad, STFU about any and all things American, if that is the standard you wish to use for conversation.

[Jolly]

Well, at least Canada will always stand up for the right to peaceful protest...

Link to video

[Jolly]

But, at least the cops were polite...

[Jolly]

BTW, AP wrote some of the police were carrying automatic weapons. That's interesting...

[George K]

@Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

AP wrote some of the police were carrying automatic weapons

C'mon. Do you really thing the Associated Press knows the difference between automatic and semi-automatic weapons?

[Jolly]

@George-K said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

@Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

AP wrote some of the police were carrying automatic weapons

C'mon. Do you really thing the Associated Press knows the difference between automatic and semi-automatic weapons?

Doubt it. I assume they were carrying AR-15's. Would be a hoot if they carrying something like MP5's...

[Renauda]

@Jolly said in [Xenon, the White Supremacist](/post/141288

Then lad, STFU about any and all things American, if that is the standard you wish to use for conversation.

With extreme pleasure and prejudice Beauregard, with the caveat that if something or some policy in the USA affects this country or Canadians or if the the same has an international or foreign policy dimension, I’ll write whatever I bloody well please about “things American”or the US government. That is the price you as an American must pay for from all non Americans in the era of Pax Americana.

Capice? You’d better.

[Jolly]

So lad, I'll say what I damn well please about Fidel Trudeau.

Enjoy!

[Renauda]

@Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

So lad, I'll say what I damn well please about Fidel Trudeau.

Enjoy!

Have at it. Quite unlike Presidents of republics, PM’s are there to be vilified and pilloried with impunity. That is called The House of Commons and Parliament. Certainly never shown respect, unless if course, they die in office, suffer some sort of family misfortune or resign their leadership in advance of being turfed by their own cabinet and caucus. I would expect Phibes to understand the nuance, but not you.

Besides I have not voted Liberal since the days of Chretien.

So be my guest and have at him, he probably is Castro’s bastard, but that’s not why I voted for the other party.

[Jolly]

[Doctor Phibes]

@Renauda said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

I would expect Phibes to understand the nuance, but not you.

There's definitely a different feeling over here regarding their Head of State than there is about the PM, who it's worth emphasizing is not Head of State.

The kind of reverence with which certain groups in the US held both Obama and Trump really wouldn't work in any sane parliamentary democracy.

The Brits all know Boris is a conniving twat, even people who voted for him do. Some of you lot talked about Obama and Trump although they were the second coming.

The only PM my father (possibly the nicest and kindest man I ever met) ever spoke about respectfully was Winston Churchill, and he was kind of special.

[Jolly]

@George-K said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

@Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

AP wrote some of the police were carrying automatic weapons

C'mon. Do you really thing the Associated Press knows the difference between automatic and semi-automatic weapons?

BTW, I've been watching some of the footage. Some of the police are definitely carrying AR's. I can't conceive of why they would need them - by all accounts, these protesters are not armed - or why you would discharge such a weapon in a crowd setting.

The other weapons I noticed are tear gas guns with revolving cylinders. Besides normal sidearms, which any officer down here would carry.

[Doctor Phibes]

I thought it was pretty much standard practice in America to shoot people who didn't do what the police told them.

There are certainly plenty of examples of people saying 'I don't know why people just don't do what they're told when challenged'.

Or is that just black fellah's pulled over for minor traffic violations?