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    Jolly
    wrote on 18 Feb 2022, 20:54 last edited by
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    What does Section 8 of Canada's Charter say? Something about unreasonable search and seizure?

    The Canadian government has called the Trucker's Protest domestic terrorism, and as such, has seized their bank accounts. has seized donations given to them electronically and has even seized fungible currencies, such as Bitcoin, which supposedly was immune from government meddling.

    And then, donors were doxxed left and right. The jury is still out whether that information was sourced by independent hackers or Canadian government hackers.

    So...How does a peaceful protest (and the protest in Ottawa has been remarkable peaceful for that many people) equate to domestic terrorism? Especially enough for Fidel Trudeau to declare an Emergency Powers Act?

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Jolly
      wrote on 18 Feb 2022, 20:58 last edited by
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      How about one of the largest differences between the two peaceful protests?

      In MLK's case, JFK actually met and talked with King and other members of the March.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        18 Feb 2022, 20:58

        How about one of the largest differences between the two peaceful protests?

        In MLK's case, JFK actually met and talked with King and other members of the March.

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        Renauda
        wrote on 18 Feb 2022, 22:11 last edited by Renauda
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        @Jolly

        Yeah , the government here is being decidedly unAmerican. How dare they, eh? An outrage! It’s causing heads to explode all over the USA.

        So how about you admitting that you don’t know what you’re even talking about. But keep searching anyway.

        In the meantime, the police are doing an exemplary job of shutting it all down slowly, methodically and making arrests only when necessary. All the organizers are now in police custody. Although a few occupiers were earlier trying put their children between them and the advancing police line, most depart voluntarily when ordered.

        Just glad to see it coming to what looks to be a peaceful end. You should be too.

        Elbows up!

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          18 Feb 2022, 20:54

          What does Section 8 of Canada's Charter say? Something about unreasonable search and seizure?

          The Canadian government has called the Trucker's Protest domestic terrorism, and as such, has seized their bank accounts. has seized donations given to them electronically and has even seized fungible currencies, such as Bitcoin, which supposedly was immune from government meddling.

          And then, donors were doxxed left and right. The jury is still out whether that information was sourced by independent hackers or Canadian government hackers.

          So...How does a peaceful protest (and the protest in Ottawa has been remarkable peaceful for that many people) equate to domestic terrorism? Especially enough for Fidel Trudeau to declare an Emergency Powers Act?

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on 18 Feb 2022, 22:31 last edited by
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          @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

          What does Section 8 of Canada's Charter say? Something about unreasonable search and seizure?

          The Canadian government has called the Trucker's Protest domestic terrorism, and as such, has seized their bank accounts. has seized donations given to them electronically and has even seized fungible currencies, such as Bitcoin, which supposedly was immune from government meddling.

          And then, donors were doxxed left and right. The jury is still out whether that information was sourced by independent hackers or Canadian government hackers.

          So...How does a peaceful protest (and the protest in Ottawa has been remarkable peaceful for that many people) equate to domestic terrorism? Especially enough for Fidel Trudeau to declare an Emergency Powers Act?

          It would seem the hacking of Give-Send0Go would be as much or more of a terrorist attack than blocking streets?

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            Jolly
            wrote on 18 Feb 2022, 23:08 last edited by
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            I dunno. How about threatening to kill their dogs?

            Link to video

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              Renauda
              wrote on 18 Feb 2022, 23:29 last edited by
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              You dial it up, I’ll dial it down:

              https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-why-ottawa-was-justified-in-invoking-the-emergencies-act/

              Elbows up!

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                Jolly
                wrote on 18 Feb 2022, 23:54 last edited by
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                When you seize people's bank accounts, you have violated Charter Rights.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • J Jolly
                  18 Feb 2022, 23:54

                  When you seize people's bank accounts, you have violated Charter Rights.

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                  Renauda
                  wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 00:17 last edited by Renauda
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                  @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                  When you seize people's bank accounts, you have violated Charter Rights.

                  Damnit, I forgot you’re an expert on Canadian constitutional law. I would have never known you were a backyard barrister for Canadian civil liberties.

                  There are some lawyers and civil liberties advocates here as well voicing similar concerns. They too are experts and I respect their expertise and reasoned arguments on this topic. Their expertise comes from study and years of professional experience in these matters.

                  Your purported expertise on the other hand, comes from Fox News and other disreputable sources. It also comes from your ignorance of knowing much of anything about this subject.

                  Elbows up!

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 00:37 last edited by
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                    I didn't realize that the Canadian Charter was written in ancient Sanskrit and only accessible by those wielding an appropriate Rosetta Stone.

                    Everyone has the right to be secure against unreasonable search or seizure.

                    Seems simple enough to me.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      19 Feb 2022, 00:17

                      @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                      When you seize people's bank accounts, you have violated Charter Rights.

                      Damnit, I forgot you’re an expert on Canadian constitutional law. I would have never known you were a backyard barrister for Canadian civil liberties.

                      There are some lawyers and civil liberties advocates here as well voicing similar concerns. They too are experts and I respect their expertise and reasoned arguments on this topic. Their expertise comes from study and years of professional experience in these matters.

                      Your purported expertise on the other hand, comes from Fox News and other disreputable sources. It also comes from your ignorance of knowing much of anything about this subject.

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 00:38 last edited by
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                      @Renauda said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                      @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                      When you seize people's bank accounts, you have violated Charter Rights.

                      Damnit, I forgot you’re an expert on Canadian constitutional law. I would have never known you were a backyard barrister for Canadian civil liberties.

                      There are some lawyers and civil liberties advocates here as well voicing similar concerns. They too are experts and I respect their expertise and reasoned arguments on this topic. Their expertise comes from study and years of professional experience in these matters.

                      Your purported expertise on the other hand, comes from Fox News and other disreputable sources. It also comes from your ignorance of knowing much of anything about this subject.

                      Then lad, STFU about any and all things American, if that is the standard you wish to use for conversation.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 00:59 last edited by
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                        Well, at least Canada will always stand up for the right to peaceful protest...

                        Link to video

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 01:02 last edited by
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                          But, at least the cops were polite...

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            19 Feb 2022, 01:02

                            But, at least the cops were polite...

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 01:04 last edited by Jolly
                            #169

                            BTW, AP wrote some of the police were carrying automatic weapons. That's interesting...

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              19 Feb 2022, 01:04

                              BTW, AP wrote some of the police were carrying automatic weapons. That's interesting...

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                              George K
                              wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 01:11 last edited by
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                              @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                              AP wrote some of the police were carrying automatic weapons

                              C'mon. Do you really thing the Associated Press knows the difference between automatic and semi-automatic weapons?

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • G George K
                                19 Feb 2022, 01:11

                                @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                                AP wrote some of the police were carrying automatic weapons

                                C'mon. Do you really thing the Associated Press knows the difference between automatic and semi-automatic weapons?

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 01:13 last edited by
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                                @George-K said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                                @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                                AP wrote some of the police were carrying automatic weapons

                                C'mon. Do you really thing the Associated Press knows the difference between automatic and semi-automatic weapons?

                                Doubt it. I assume they were carrying AR-15's. Would be a hoot if they carrying something like MP5's...

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  19 Feb 2022, 00:38

                                  @Renauda said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                                  @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                                  When you seize people's bank accounts, you have violated Charter Rights.

                                  Damnit, I forgot you’re an expert on Canadian constitutional law. I would have never known you were a backyard barrister for Canadian civil liberties.

                                  There are some lawyers and civil liberties advocates here as well voicing similar concerns. They too are experts and I respect their expertise and reasoned arguments on this topic. Their expertise comes from study and years of professional experience in these matters.

                                  Your purported expertise on the other hand, comes from Fox News and other disreputable sources. It also comes from your ignorance of knowing much of anything about this subject.

                                  Then lad, STFU about any and all things American, if that is the standard you wish to use for conversation.

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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 01:15 last edited by Renauda
                                  #172

                                  @Jolly said in [Xenon, the White Supremacist](/post/141288

                                  Then lad, STFU about any and all things American, if that is the standard you wish to use for conversation.

                                  With extreme pleasure and prejudice Beauregard, with the caveat that if something or some policy in the USA affects this country or Canadians or if the the same has an international or foreign policy dimension, I’ll write whatever I bloody well please about “things American”or the US government. That is the price you as an American must pay for from all non Americans in the era of Pax Americana.

                                  Capice? You’d better.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 01:31 last edited by
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                                    So lad, I'll say what I damn well please about Fidel Trudeau.

                                    Enjoy!

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • J Jolly
                                      19 Feb 2022, 01:31

                                      So lad, I'll say what I damn well please about Fidel Trudeau.

                                      Enjoy!

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                                      Renauda
                                      wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 01:41 last edited by Renauda
                                      #174

                                      @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                                      So lad, I'll say what I damn well please about Fidel Trudeau.

                                      Enjoy!

                                      Have at it. Quite unlike Presidents of republics, PM’s are there to be vilified and pilloried with impunity. That is called The House of Commons and Parliament. Certainly never shown respect, unless if course, they die in office, suffer some sort of family misfortune or resign their leadership in advance of being turfed by their own cabinet and caucus. I would expect Phibes to understand the nuance, but not you.

                                      Besides I have not voted Liberal since the days of Chretien.

                                      So be my guest and have at him, he probably is Castro’s bastard, but that’s not why I voted for the other party.

                                      Elbows up!

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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 02:02 last edited by
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                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          19 Feb 2022, 01:41

                                          @Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                                          So lad, I'll say what I damn well please about Fidel Trudeau.

                                          Enjoy!

                                          Have at it. Quite unlike Presidents of republics, PM’s are there to be vilified and pilloried with impunity. That is called The House of Commons and Parliament. Certainly never shown respect, unless if course, they die in office, suffer some sort of family misfortune or resign their leadership in advance of being turfed by their own cabinet and caucus. I would expect Phibes to understand the nuance, but not you.

                                          Besides I have not voted Liberal since the days of Chretien.

                                          So be my guest and have at him, he probably is Castro’s bastard, but that’s not why I voted for the other party.

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                                          Doctor Phibes
                                          wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 02:18 last edited by Doctor Phibes
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                                          @Renauda said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

                                          I would expect Phibes to understand the nuance, but not you.

                                          There's definitely a different feeling over here regarding their Head of State than there is about the PM, who it's worth emphasizing is not Head of State.

                                          The kind of reverence with which certain groups in the US held both Obama and Trump really wouldn't work in any sane parliamentary democracy.

                                          The Brits all know Boris is a conniving twat, even people who voted for him do. Some of you lot talked about Obama and Trump although they were the second coming.

                                          The only PM my father (possibly the nicest and kindest man I ever met) ever spoke about respectfully was Winston Churchill, and he was kind of special.

                                          I was only joking

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