Xenon, the White Supremacist
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wrote on 18 Feb 2022, 19:25 last edited by
@larry said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:
In a free society, government is given the right to rule by the people. The people do not have freedoms because the government's gives it to them. Since government is granted the right to rule by the people, those people can take away the government's right to rule.
The process for doing so is the ballot box - as long as both sides are following the rules. But if a government is not following the rules, the people have the right to protest, and if necessary, remove the government. Laws enacted by that government that declare it illegal to do so are meaningless. When a government makes it illegal for the people to participate in their right to protest that government peacefully, it is not the people violating the law, it is the government violating the law. And if the government refuses to acknowledge the people's right to protest peacefully, demand change, etc... then the people have the right to overthrow that government, by force if necessary.
The key here is to remember just who it is that runs the show. The people run the show.
Fer Gawd's sake, let us not engage in peaceful protest...
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wrote on 18 Feb 2022, 19:33 last edited by Renauda
Fer Gawd's sake, let us not engage in peaceful protest...
Rather disingenuous of you, Jolly, to try and draw a parallel between MLK’s civil rights rallies against racial discrimination in the 1960’s and this 22 day illegal occupation of Ottawa.
No surprise though, sympathizers of the occupation here not once seemed to be bothered by the occupiers appropriating yellow Stars of David to garner support by also inappropriately and disingenuously conflating their own alleged plight with that of European Jews who fell under the heel of the Nazi jackboot.
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wrote on 18 Feb 2022, 20:54 last edited by
What does Section 8 of Canada's Charter say? Something about unreasonable search and seizure?
The Canadian government has called the Trucker's Protest domestic terrorism, and as such, has seized their bank accounts. has seized donations given to them electronically and has even seized fungible currencies, such as Bitcoin, which supposedly was immune from government meddling.
And then, donors were doxxed left and right. The jury is still out whether that information was sourced by independent hackers or Canadian government hackers.
So...How does a peaceful protest (and the protest in Ottawa has been remarkable peaceful for that many people) equate to domestic terrorism? Especially enough for Fidel Trudeau to declare an Emergency Powers Act?
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wrote on 18 Feb 2022, 20:58 last edited by
How about one of the largest differences between the two peaceful protests?
In MLK's case, JFK actually met and talked with King and other members of the March.
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How about one of the largest differences between the two peaceful protests?
In MLK's case, JFK actually met and talked with King and other members of the March.
wrote on 18 Feb 2022, 22:11 last edited by RenaudaYeah , the government here is being decidedly unAmerican. How dare they, eh? An outrage! It’s causing heads to explode all over the USA.
So how about you admitting that you don’t know what you’re even talking about. But keep searching anyway.
In the meantime, the police are doing an exemplary job of shutting it all down slowly, methodically and making arrests only when necessary. All the organizers are now in police custody. Although a few occupiers were earlier trying put their children between them and the advancing police line, most depart voluntarily when ordered.
Just glad to see it coming to what looks to be a peaceful end. You should be too.
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What does Section 8 of Canada's Charter say? Something about unreasonable search and seizure?
The Canadian government has called the Trucker's Protest domestic terrorism, and as such, has seized their bank accounts. has seized donations given to them electronically and has even seized fungible currencies, such as Bitcoin, which supposedly was immune from government meddling.
And then, donors were doxxed left and right. The jury is still out whether that information was sourced by independent hackers or Canadian government hackers.
So...How does a peaceful protest (and the protest in Ottawa has been remarkable peaceful for that many people) equate to domestic terrorism? Especially enough for Fidel Trudeau to declare an Emergency Powers Act?
wrote on 18 Feb 2022, 22:31 last edited by@Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:
What does Section 8 of Canada's Charter say? Something about unreasonable search and seizure?
The Canadian government has called the Trucker's Protest domestic terrorism, and as such, has seized their bank accounts. has seized donations given to them electronically and has even seized fungible currencies, such as Bitcoin, which supposedly was immune from government meddling.
And then, donors were doxxed left and right. The jury is still out whether that information was sourced by independent hackers or Canadian government hackers.
So...How does a peaceful protest (and the protest in Ottawa has been remarkable peaceful for that many people) equate to domestic terrorism? Especially enough for Fidel Trudeau to declare an Emergency Powers Act?
It would seem the hacking of Give-Send0Go would be as much or more of a terrorist attack than blocking streets?
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wrote on 18 Feb 2022, 23:08 last edited by
I dunno. How about threatening to kill their dogs?
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wrote on 18 Feb 2022, 23:29 last edited by
You dial it up, I’ll dial it down:
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wrote on 18 Feb 2022, 23:54 last edited by
When you seize people's bank accounts, you have violated Charter Rights.
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wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 00:17 last edited by Renauda
@Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:
When you seize people's bank accounts, you have violated Charter Rights.
Damnit, I forgot you’re an expert on Canadian constitutional law. I would have never known you were a backyard barrister for Canadian civil liberties.
There are some lawyers and civil liberties advocates here as well voicing similar concerns. They too are experts and I respect their expertise and reasoned arguments on this topic. Their expertise comes from study and years of professional experience in these matters.
Your purported expertise on the other hand, comes from Fox News and other disreputable sources. It also comes from your ignorance of knowing much of anything about this subject.
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wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 00:37 last edited by
I didn't realize that the Canadian Charter was written in ancient Sanskrit and only accessible by those wielding an appropriate Rosetta Stone.
Everyone has the right to be secure against unreasonable search or seizure.
Seems simple enough to me.
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@Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:
When you seize people's bank accounts, you have violated Charter Rights.
Damnit, I forgot you’re an expert on Canadian constitutional law. I would have never known you were a backyard barrister for Canadian civil liberties.
There are some lawyers and civil liberties advocates here as well voicing similar concerns. They too are experts and I respect their expertise and reasoned arguments on this topic. Their expertise comes from study and years of professional experience in these matters.
Your purported expertise on the other hand, comes from Fox News and other disreputable sources. It also comes from your ignorance of knowing much of anything about this subject.
wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 00:38 last edited by@Renauda said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:
@Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:
When you seize people's bank accounts, you have violated Charter Rights.
Damnit, I forgot you’re an expert on Canadian constitutional law. I would have never known you were a backyard barrister for Canadian civil liberties.
There are some lawyers and civil liberties advocates here as well voicing similar concerns. They too are experts and I respect their expertise and reasoned arguments on this topic. Their expertise comes from study and years of professional experience in these matters.
Your purported expertise on the other hand, comes from Fox News and other disreputable sources. It also comes from your ignorance of knowing much of anything about this subject.
Then lad, STFU about any and all things American, if that is the standard you wish to use for conversation.
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wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 00:59 last edited by
Well, at least Canada will always stand up for the right to peaceful protest...
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wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 01:02 last edited by
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wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 01:04 last edited by Jolly
BTW, AP wrote some of the police were carrying automatic weapons. That's interesting...
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wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 01:11 last edited by
@Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:
AP wrote some of the police were carrying automatic weapons
C'mon. Do you really thing the Associated Press knows the difference between automatic and semi-automatic weapons?
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@Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:
AP wrote some of the police were carrying automatic weapons
C'mon. Do you really thing the Associated Press knows the difference between automatic and semi-automatic weapons?
wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 01:13 last edited by@George-K said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:
@Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:
AP wrote some of the police were carrying automatic weapons
C'mon. Do you really thing the Associated Press knows the difference between automatic and semi-automatic weapons?
Doubt it. I assume they were carrying AR-15's. Would be a hoot if they carrying something like MP5's...
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@Renauda said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:
@Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:
When you seize people's bank accounts, you have violated Charter Rights.
Damnit, I forgot you’re an expert on Canadian constitutional law. I would have never known you were a backyard barrister for Canadian civil liberties.
There are some lawyers and civil liberties advocates here as well voicing similar concerns. They too are experts and I respect their expertise and reasoned arguments on this topic. Their expertise comes from study and years of professional experience in these matters.
Your purported expertise on the other hand, comes from Fox News and other disreputable sources. It also comes from your ignorance of knowing much of anything about this subject.
Then lad, STFU about any and all things American, if that is the standard you wish to use for conversation.
wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 01:15 last edited by Renauda@Jolly said in [Xenon, the White Supremacist](/post/141288
Then lad, STFU about any and all things American, if that is the standard you wish to use for conversation.
With extreme pleasure and prejudice Beauregard, with the caveat that if something or some policy in the USA affects this country or Canadians or if the the same has an international or foreign policy dimension, I’ll write whatever I bloody well please about “things American”or the US government. That is the price you as an American must pay for from all non Americans in the era of Pax Americana.
Capice? You’d better.
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wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 01:31 last edited by
So lad, I'll say what I damn well please about Fidel Trudeau.
Enjoy!
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wrote on 19 Feb 2022, 01:41 last edited by Renauda
@Jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:
So lad, I'll say what I damn well please about Fidel Trudeau.
Enjoy!
Have at it. Quite unlike Presidents of republics, PM’s are there to be vilified and pilloried with impunity. That is called The House of Commons and Parliament. Certainly never shown respect, unless if course, they die in office, suffer some sort of family misfortune or resign their leadership in advance of being turfed by their own cabinet and caucus. I would expect Phibes to understand the nuance, but not you.
Besides I have not voted Liberal since the days of Chretien.
So be my guest and have at him, he probably is Castro’s bastard, but that’s not why I voted for the other party.
Elbows up!
