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Right to repair.

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    Farmers and Deere...

    Link to video

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • markM Offline
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      mark
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      #2

      Such a horrible corporate policy. It's one reason I stopped buying Apple products. They helped start all of this bullshit.

      Good for the farmers. I hope this policy comes back to bite Deere, and any other company that engages in such practices, in the ass and that they fire the assholes who suggested it and implemented the policy.

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      • MikM Away
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        Mik
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        #3

        They are trying to strongarm probably the most wrong bunch of folks possible.

        Hope it doesn't go too badly. My nephew is almost done with Deere tech training school.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          Jolly
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          Deere's not going anywhere.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Axtremus
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            Also see: the Biden Administration's Executive Order #14036 concerning "right to repair."

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            • JollyJ Offline
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              Jolly
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              And if you have a decent memory, which I think you do, what have I said on this subject for quite awhile?

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • George KG Offline
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                George K
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                #7

                Nice enough, Mr. President.

                Now, how about spurring congress to do their jobs via legislation, rather than "executive orders?"

                While you're at it, perhaps some laws regarding the border?

                (checks notes....)

                Sorry, they already exist. How about enforcing them, then?

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • markM mark

                  Such a horrible corporate policy. It's one reason I stopped buying Apple products. They helped start all of this bullshit.

                  Good for the farmers. I hope this policy comes back to bite Deere, and any other company that engages in such practices, in the ass and that they fire the assholes who suggested it and implemented the policy.

                  RenaudaR Offline
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                  Renauda
                  wrote on last edited by Renauda
                  #8

                  @mark said in Right to repair.:

                  Such a horrible corporate policy. It's one reason I stopped buying Apple products. They helped start all of this bullshit.

                  I agree. Just try to get a 165 gb iPod Classic repaired. The female digital pin block on mine somehow got damaged and the device won’t dock without a lot of messing around. Apple told me to it throw out and buy a new one. That was eight years ago. Well, I still have the device and use it daily - I just learned to put up with its quirkiness in the hope that someday Apple will grant the right of repair to its customers.

                  Dyson is another manufacturer that does not offer customers the right of repair on its vacuum models it no longer supports.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • RenaudaR Renauda

                    @mark said in Right to repair.:

                    Such a horrible corporate policy. It's one reason I stopped buying Apple products. They helped start all of this bullshit.

                    I agree. Just try to get a 165 gb iPod Classic repaired. The female digital pin block on mine somehow got damaged and the device won’t dock without a lot of messing around. Apple told me to it throw out and buy a new one. That was eight years ago. Well, I still have the device and use it daily - I just learned to put up with its quirkiness in the hope that someday Apple will grant the right of repair to its customers.

                    Dyson is another manufacturer that does not offer customers the right of repair on its vacuum models it no longer supports.

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                    @renauda said in Right to repair.:

                    Dyson is another manufacturer that does not offer customers the right of repair on its vacuum models it no longer supports.

                    James Dyson has gone from being everybody's favourite engineering rebel to somebody who really sucks.

                    I was only joking

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                      #10

                      I understand both sides. Lots of farmers are used to using pre-computerized tractors they could work on themselves out in a field. Now they find themselves using computer reliant machines that are beyond their ability to fix, and they forget all the amazing benefits this brings with it when they are broke down in a field and need 50,000$ worth of equipment just to find the problem. From Deere's point of view, they design machines that do amazing things but to do those things the equipment uses technology that requires specialized and very expensive equipment to work on them, in the hands of trained repairman.

                      Want to have a tractor that uses GPS to drive the tractor and plant a field perfectly? Want to fix it yourself when it breaks? Then take the required training and make the massive investment in test equipment and specialized tools needed to do it. Or, buy a simpler tractor that can be fixed with a hammer and a wrench and do without the sheer wizardry of a modern tractor. Or, if you want the benefits of a modern tractor but don't want to spend the time and money it takes to diagnose and repair it? Then pay someone qualified and equipped to come out and repair it.

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