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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    Interesting. Sinclair's whole thesis is the aging is a disease that can be treated, controlled, and perhaps, cured.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Curing cancer and heart disease will certainly drive life expectancy up, but it doesn’t address all the other deterioration of age.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        Curing cancer and heart disease will certainly drive life expectancy up, but it doesn’t address all the other deterioration of age.

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        @mik said in LifeSpan:

        it doesn’t address all the other deterioration of age.

        And that, precisely, is Sinclair's point.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Lifestyle changes? Even the oldest general populations have only 6 years longer life expectancy from the US, and unless you're in one of the shithole countries you can get into your late 70s on average.

          Eat yogurt? Do tai chi?

          I'd guess most of this is just genetic/ epigenetic. My Polish great grandmothers lived to about 100, and my mom is well on her way there, please God. My Irish side die in their late 60s to 70s. I suppose not smoking, eating healthier, keep moving goes a long way, but I doubt any of that is good for another 5 - 10 years above the norm.

          I hear that young people today are projected to have potentially much longer lifespans and its grand that people are not dying from curable things today, but death itself isn't going to be curable.

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          • IvorythumperI Ivorythumper

            Lifestyle changes? Even the oldest general populations have only 6 years longer life expectancy from the US, and unless you're in one of the shithole countries you can get into your late 70s on average.

            Eat yogurt? Do tai chi?

            I'd guess most of this is just genetic/ epigenetic. My Polish great grandmothers lived to about 100, and my mom is well on her way there, please God. My Irish side die in their late 60s to 70s. I suppose not smoking, eating healthier, keep moving goes a long way, but I doubt any of that is good for another 5 - 10 years above the norm.

            I hear that young people today are projected to have potentially much longer lifespans and its grand that people are not dying from curable things today, but death itself isn't going to be curable.

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            @ivorythumper said in LifeSpan:

            I'd guess most of this is just genetic/ epigenetic.

            Sinclair's book is all about epigenetics. He maintains that that is alterable. He also claims that much of what we call "aging" is really a disease - curable, and reversible.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Might be true. It sounds like a great idea for me. Not so much for everyone.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                @ivorythumper said in LifeSpan:

                I'd guess most of this is just genetic/ epigenetic.

                Sinclair's book is all about epigenetics. He maintains that that is alterable. He also claims that much of what we call "aging" is really a disease - curable, and reversible.

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                @george-k said in LifeSpan:

                @ivorythumper said in LifeSpan:

                I'd guess most of this is just genetic/ epigenetic.

                Sinclair's book is all about epigenetics. He maintains that that is alterable. He also claims that much of what we call "aging" is really a disease - curable, and reversible.

                I trust he's someone who really knows his field, which I know nothing of other than everyone I have ever known has either died or will die.

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                  We are all experts concerning how telomeres work.

                  Fix the telomeres and the broken DNA and everyone lives for a thousand years.

                  Simple.

                  Next, we'll slow down or eliminate telomeres altogether. No more trouble makers.

                  And everyone lives for a million years.

                  Then comes the next challenge.

                  We'll fix it.

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