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How to Think About War in Ukraine

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  • RenaudaR Offline
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    Renauda
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    A compelling analysis on the current crisis:

    https://snyder.substack.com/p/how-to-think-about-war-in-ukraine?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email&fbclid=IwAR2pf8PbcRT-TVkq-j4_VewMVnKllDZaXFPPqwkq5npIRnv5r19OBrXUiBc

    Elbows up!

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    • MikM Offline
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      Great article. Thanks. He makes a huge and valid point that only geopolitical considerations are at the forefront - not concern for a sovereign nation being invaded.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-vowed-the-most-serious-consequences-on-friday-if-washington-keeps-ignoring-what-it-said-were-its-legitimate-security-concerns-over-ukraine/ar-AAT0Z9y?ocid=msedgntp

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-vowed-the-most-serious-consequences-on-friday-if-washington-keeps-ignoring-what-it-said-were-its-legitimate-security-concerns-over-ukraine/ar-AAT0Z9y?ocid=msedgntp

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          @jolly said in How to Think About War in Ukraine:

          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-vowed-the-most-serious-consequences-on-friday-if-washington-keeps-ignoring-what-it-said-were-its-legitimate-security-concerns-over-ukraine/ar-AAT0Z9y?ocid=msedgntp

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          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            January 6th!!!!

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-vowed-the-most-serious-consequences-on-friday-if-washington-keeps-ignoring-what-it-said-were-its-legitimate-security-concerns-over-ukraine/ar-AAT0Z9y?ocid=msedgntp

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              @jolly said in How to Think About War in Ukraine:

              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-vowed-the-most-serious-consequences-on-friday-if-washington-keeps-ignoring-what-it-said-were-its-legitimate-security-concerns-over-ukraine/ar-AAT0Z9y?ocid=msedgntp

              Well that report was something of a uninformative dangling participle.

              Try something with a bit more journalistic grit like this one:

              https://www.reuters.com/world/top-diplomats-us-russia-meet-geneva-soaring-ukraine-tensions-2022-01-21/

              Elbows up!

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              • RenaudaR Renauda

                @jolly said in How to Think About War in Ukraine:

                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-vowed-the-most-serious-consequences-on-friday-if-washington-keeps-ignoring-what-it-said-were-its-legitimate-security-concerns-over-ukraine/ar-AAT0Z9y?ocid=msedgntp

                Well that report was something of a uninformative dangling participle.

                Try something with a bit more journalistic grit like this one:

                https://www.reuters.com/world/top-diplomats-us-russia-meet-geneva-soaring-ukraine-tensions-2022-01-21/

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                @renauda said in How to Think About War in Ukraine:

                Try something with a bit more journalistic grit like this one:

                It's not really serious journalism.

                It doesn't even mention if they wore masks.

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                  @renauda said in How to Think About War in Ukraine:

                  Try something with a bit more journalistic grit like this one:

                  It's not really serious journalism.

                  It doesn't even mention if they wore masks.

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                  @copper said in How to Think About War in Ukraine:

                  @renauda said in How to Think About War in Ukraine:

                  Try something with a bit more journalistic grit like this one:

                  It's not really serious journalism.

                  It doesn't even mention if they wore masks.

                  Most informed readers will assume the belligerents in the story would have brought along their NBCW monkey suits with the service battalion transport. As for the diplomats, providing masks is the role of their respective E.A in attendance.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • MikM Mik

                    Great article. Thanks. He makes a huge and valid point that only geopolitical considerations are at the forefront - not concern for a sovereign nation being invaded.

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                    @mik said in How to Think About War in Ukraine:

                    Great article. Thanks. He makes a huge and valid point that only geopolitical considerations are at the forefront - not concern for a sovereign nation being invaded.

                    Exactly. But that is a motif of Russian and Soviet foreign policy. Small nations that border Russia do so only at the pleasure of the Kremlin. Along with Snyder, Stephen Kotkin has repeatedly pointed this out in his presentations.

                    Putin sees the world through a geopolitical lens that has been distorted by his years as a KGB operative and officer. He is very much influenced by the xenophobic populism that permeates Russia beyond Moscow and St. Petersburg, cities more open to western ideas. As Snyder points out, he adheres to and champions a myth not unlike many autocrats.

                    Elbows up!

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