Is this hate speech?

[Axtremus]

@jolly said in Is this hate speech?:

I think so.

What makes you think so?

[Axtremus]

@george-k said in Is this hate speech?:

Project a cross onto a mosque and see what happens.

What messages would you suggest to be projected for this experiment?

[George K]

@axtremus said in Is this hate speech?:

What messages would you suggest to be projected for this experiment?

Umm....lemme think...

How about this: NONE.

[Copper]

@george-k said in Is this hate speech?:

Project a cross onto a mosque and see what happens.

The sky will open up

The mosque will turn to dust

The muslims will all convert

[Axtremus]

@george-k said in Is this hate speech?:

@axtremus said in Is this hate speech?:

What messages would you suggest to be projected for this experiment?

Umm....lemme think...

How about this: NONE.

Hmmm … you wrote “a cross”, I misread that as “across.”

Anyway, how is projecting “a cross” onto a mosque comparable to projecting messages about Catholics/Catholicism onto a cathedral?

[Klaus]

There is no such thing as "hate speech", in my opinion.

There's speech that is within the realm of free speech, and there's speech that is against the law.

Merely hating somebody or something is not against the law.

[Jolly]

@axtremus said in Is this hate speech?:

@george-k said in Is this hate speech?:

@axtremus said in Is this hate speech?:

What messages would you suggest to be projected for this experiment?

Umm....lemme think...

How about this: NONE.

Hmmm … you wrote “a cross”, I misread that as “across.”

Anyway, how is projecting “a cross” onto a mosque comparable to projecting messages about Catholics/Catholicism onto a cathedral?

The difference?

A boiling crowd of mad people intent on your imminent death and parading your corpse through the streets.

[Mik]

As opposed to a group of people who want to protect human life at its most vulnerable.

[Axtremus]

@klaus said in Is this hate speech?:

There is no such thing as "hate speech", in my opinion.

There's speech that is within the realm of free speech, and there's speech that is against the law.

Merely hating somebody or something is not against the law.

“Hate speech” as a type of speech can certainly be defined into existence. Whether a particular definition of it overlaps with illegality is a separate question.

[Klaus]

@axtremus said in Is this hate speech?:

@klaus said in Is this hate speech?:

There is no such thing as "hate speech", in my opinion.

There's speech that is within the realm of free speech, and there's speech that is against the law.

Merely hating somebody or something is not against the law.

“Hate speech” as a type of speech can certainly be defined into existence. Whether a particular definition of it overlaps with illegality is a separate question.

But to define "hate speech" you'd need to define "hate". Good luck with that. Any definition will eventually boil down to "the things that those in power don't want to hear".