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Is this hate speech?

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    George K
    wrote on 22 Jan 2022, 15:00 last edited by
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    Project a cross onto a mosque and see what happens.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • G George K
      22 Jan 2022, 15:00

      Project a cross onto a mosque and see what happens.

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      Mik
      wrote on 22 Jan 2022, 15:22 last edited by
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      @george-k said in Is this hate speech?:

      Project a cross onto a mosque and see what happens.

      POTD and QFT.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • J Jolly
        22 Jan 2022, 14:59

        I think so.

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        Axtremus
        wrote on 22 Jan 2022, 15:24 last edited by
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        @jolly said in Is this hate speech?:

        I think so.

        What makes you think so?

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        • G George K
          22 Jan 2022, 15:00

          Project a cross onto a mosque and see what happens.

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          Axtremus
          wrote on 22 Jan 2022, 15:25 last edited by
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          @george-k said in Is this hate speech?:

          Project a cross onto a mosque and see what happens.

          What messages would you suggest to be projected for this experiment?

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          • A Axtremus
            22 Jan 2022, 15:25

            @george-k said in Is this hate speech?:

            Project a cross onto a mosque and see what happens.

            What messages would you suggest to be projected for this experiment?

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            George K
            wrote on 22 Jan 2022, 15:30 last edited by
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            @axtremus said in Is this hate speech?:

            What messages would you suggest to be projected for this experiment?

            Umm....lemme think...

            How about this: NONE.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • G George K
              22 Jan 2022, 15:00

              Project a cross onto a mosque and see what happens.

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              Copper
              wrote on 22 Jan 2022, 15:30 last edited by Copper
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              @george-k said in Is this hate speech?:

              Project a cross onto a mosque and see what happens.

              The sky will open up

              The mosque will turn to dust

              The muslims will all convert

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              • G George K
                22 Jan 2022, 15:30

                @axtremus said in Is this hate speech?:

                What messages would you suggest to be projected for this experiment?

                Umm....lemme think...

                How about this: NONE.

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                Axtremus
                wrote on 22 Jan 2022, 15:51 last edited by
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                @george-k said in Is this hate speech?:

                @axtremus said in Is this hate speech?:

                What messages would you suggest to be projected for this experiment?

                Umm....lemme think...

                How about this: NONE.

                Hmmm … you wrote “a cross”, I misread that as “across.”

                Anyway, how is projecting “a cross” onto a mosque comparable to projecting messages about Catholics/Catholicism onto a cathedral?

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                  Klaus
                  wrote on 22 Jan 2022, 16:35 last edited by
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                  There is no such thing as "hate speech", in my opinion.

                  There's speech that is within the realm of free speech, and there's speech that is against the law.

                  Merely hating somebody or something is not against the law.

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                  • A Axtremus
                    22 Jan 2022, 15:51

                    @george-k said in Is this hate speech?:

                    @axtremus said in Is this hate speech?:

                    What messages would you suggest to be projected for this experiment?

                    Umm....lemme think...

                    How about this: NONE.

                    Hmmm … you wrote “a cross”, I misread that as “across.”

                    Anyway, how is projecting “a cross” onto a mosque comparable to projecting messages about Catholics/Catholicism onto a cathedral?

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 22 Jan 2022, 16:40 last edited by
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                    @axtremus said in Is this hate speech?:

                    @george-k said in Is this hate speech?:

                    @axtremus said in Is this hate speech?:

                    What messages would you suggest to be projected for this experiment?

                    Umm....lemme think...

                    How about this: NONE.

                    Hmmm … you wrote “a cross”, I misread that as “across.”

                    Anyway, how is projecting “a cross” onto a mosque comparable to projecting messages about Catholics/Catholicism onto a cathedral?

                    The difference?

                    A boiling crowd of mad people intent on your imminent death and parading your corpse through the streets.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      Mik
                      wrote on 22 Jan 2022, 17:00 last edited by
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                      As opposed to a group of people who want to protect human life at its most vulnerable.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • K Klaus
                        22 Jan 2022, 16:35

                        There is no such thing as "hate speech", in my opinion.

                        There's speech that is within the realm of free speech, and there's speech that is against the law.

                        Merely hating somebody or something is not against the law.

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                        Axtremus
                        wrote on 22 Jan 2022, 19:30 last edited by
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                        @klaus said in Is this hate speech?:

                        There is no such thing as "hate speech", in my opinion.

                        There's speech that is within the realm of free speech, and there's speech that is against the law.

                        Merely hating somebody or something is not against the law.

                        “Hate speech” as a type of speech can certainly be defined into existence. Whether a particular definition of it overlaps with illegality is a separate question.

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                        • A Axtremus
                          22 Jan 2022, 19:30

                          @klaus said in Is this hate speech?:

                          There is no such thing as "hate speech", in my opinion.

                          There's speech that is within the realm of free speech, and there's speech that is against the law.

                          Merely hating somebody or something is not against the law.

                          “Hate speech” as a type of speech can certainly be defined into existence. Whether a particular definition of it overlaps with illegality is a separate question.

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                          Klaus
                          wrote on 22 Jan 2022, 20:02 last edited by
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                          @axtremus said in Is this hate speech?:

                          @klaus said in Is this hate speech?:

                          There is no such thing as "hate speech", in my opinion.

                          There's speech that is within the realm of free speech, and there's speech that is against the law.

                          Merely hating somebody or something is not against the law.

                          “Hate speech” as a type of speech can certainly be defined into existence. Whether a particular definition of it overlaps with illegality is a separate question.

                          But to define "hate speech" you'd need to define "hate". Good luck with that. Any definition will eventually boil down to "the things that those in power don't want to hear".

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