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  • RainmanR Offline
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    Rainman
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    #56

    @Axtremus said in Trump threatens to move convention if NC restricts capacity:

    I look forward to seeing how that works out.

    Me too, bud. See ya there!!

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    • AxtremusA Axtremus

      People who wants to attend Trump!s rally as to agree to the following when registering:

      “By clicking register below, you are acknowledging that an inherent risk of exposure to COVID-19 exists in any public place where people are present. By attending the Rally, you and any guests voluntarily assume all risks related to exposure to COVID-19 and agree not to hold Donald J. Trump for President, Inc.; BOK Center; ASM Global; or any of their affiliates, directors, officers, employees, agents, contractors, or volunteers liable for any illness or injury.”

      I look forward to seeing how that works out.

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      @Axtremus said in Trump threatens to move convention if NC restricts capacity:

      People who wants to attend Trump!s rally as to agree to the following when registering:

      “By clicking register below, you are acknowledging that an inherent risk of exposure to COVID-19 exists in any public place where people are present. By attending the Rally, you and any guests voluntarily assume all risks related to exposure to COVID-19 and agree not to hold Donald J. Trump for President, Inc.; BOK Center; ASM Global; or any of their affiliates, directors, officers, employees, agents, contractors, or volunteers liable for any illness or injury.”

      I look forward to seeing how that works out.

      In the US, is this enough to remove liability? I know at sporting events, they have something written on the ticket that the team is not responsible for things that happen to you, but if someone gets hit by a ball, the team still seems to get sued.

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      • AxtremusA Axtremus

        The Republican Party’s 2016 Platform that the Republican Party plans to keep going into the 2020 RNC:
        https://prod-cdn-static.gop.com/media/documents/DRAFT_12_FINAL[1]-ben_1468872234.pdf

        Some interesting planks from the Republican Party’s 2016 Platform:

        • The huge increase in the national debt demanded by and incurred during the current Administration has placed a significant burden on future generations.
        • The current Administration’s refusal to work with Republicans took our national debt from $10 trillion to nearly $19 trillion today. Left unchecked, it will hit $30 trillion by 2026.
        • The current Administration has exceeded its constitutional authority, brazenly and flagrantly violated the separation of powers, sought to divide America into groups and turn citizen against citizen.
        • Our most urgent task as a Party is to restore the American people’s faith in their government by electing a president who will enforce duly enacted laws, honor constitutional limits on executive authority, and return credibility to the Oval Office.
        • The next president must restore the public’s trust in law enforcement and civil order by first adhering to the rule of law himself.
        • The current Administration has abandoned America’s friends and rewarded its enemies.
        • The President has refused to defend or enforce laws he does not like, used executive orders to enact national policies in areas constitutionally reserved solely to Congress, made unconstitutional ‘recess’ appointments to Senate-confirmed positions, directed regulatory agencies to overstep their statutory authority, and failed to consult Congress regarding military action overseas.
        • Pakistanis, Afghans, and Americans have a common interest in ridding the region of the Taliban and securing Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal. That goal has been undermined by the current Administration’s feckless treatment of troop commitments and blatant disregard of advice from commanders on the ground, particularly with regard to Afghanistan.
        • The current President and his allies on Capitol Hill have used those agencies as a superlegislature, disregarding the separation of powers, to declare as law what they could not push through the Congress.
        • The survival of the internet as we know it is at risk. Its gravest peril originates in the White House, the current occupant of which has launched a campaign, both at home and internationally, to subjugate it to agents of government.
        • We will meet the return of Russian belligerence with the same resolve that led to the collapse of the Soviet Union. We will not accept any territorial change in Eastern Europe imposed by force, in Ukraine, Georgia, or elsewhere, and will use all appropriate constitutional measures to bring to justice the practitioners of aggression and assassination.
        • A Republican president will never embrace a Marxist dictator, in Venezuela or anywhere else.

        So in 2020, the Republican Party will adopt a Platform that has so many grievances and misgivings against “the current administration.” @Loki can probably find solace that Trump himself will probably never read the Republican Party’s Platform.

        AxtremusA Offline
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        Axtremus
        wrote on last edited by
        #58

        @Axtremus said in Trump threatens to move convention if NC restricts capacity:

        The Republican Party’s 2016 Platform that the Republican Party plans to keep going into the 2020 RNC:
        https://prod-cdn-static.gop.com/media/documents/DRAFT_12_FINAL[1]-ben_1468872234.pdf

        Some interesting planks from the Republican Party’s 2016 Platform:

        • The huge increase in the national debt demanded by and incurred during the current Administration has placed a significant burden on future generations.
        • The current Administration’s refusal to work with Republicans took our national debt from $10 trillion to nearly $19 trillion today. Left unchecked, it will hit $30 trillion by 2026.
        • The current Administration has exceeded its constitutional authority, brazenly and flagrantly violated the separation of powers, sought to divide America into groups and turn citizen against citizen.
        • Our most urgent task as a Party is to restore the American people’s faith in their government by electing a president who will enforce duly enacted laws, honor constitutional limits on executive authority, and return credibility to the Oval Office.
        • The next president must restore the public’s trust in law enforcement and civil order by first adhering to the rule of law himself.
        • The current Administration has abandoned America’s friends and rewarded its enemies.
        • The President has refused to defend or enforce laws he does not like, used executive orders to enact national policies in areas constitutionally reserved solely to Congress, made unconstitutional ‘recess’ appointments to Senate-confirmed positions, directed regulatory agencies to overstep their statutory authority, and failed to consult Congress regarding military action overseas.
        • Pakistanis, Afghans, and Americans have a common interest in ridding the region of the Taliban and securing Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal. That goal has been undermined by the current Administration’s feckless treatment of troop commitments and blatant disregard of advice from commanders on the ground, particularly with regard to Afghanistan.
        • The current President and his allies on Capitol Hill have used those agencies as a superlegislature, disregarding the separation of powers, to declare as law what they could not push through the Congress.
        • The survival of the internet as we know it is at risk. Its gravest peril originates in the White House, the current occupant of which has launched a campaign, both at home and internationally, to subjugate it to agents of government.
        • We will meet the return of Russian belligerence with the same resolve that led to the collapse of the Soviet Union. We will not accept any territorial change in Eastern Europe imposed by force, in Ukraine, Georgia, or elsewhere, and will use all appropriate constitutional measures to bring to justice the practitioners of aggression and assassination.
        • A Republican president will never embrace a Marxist dictator, in Venezuela or anywhere else.

        So in 2020, the Republican Party will adopt a Platform that has so many grievances and misgivings against “the current administration.” @Loki can probably find solace that Trump himself will probably never read the Republican Party’s Platform.

        https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-calls-for-a-new-and-updated-gop-platform-after-party-moves-to-keep-its-2016-document/2020/06/12/f5d033cc-acb4-11ea-9063-e69bd6520940_story.html

        Now Trump says he wants the Republican Party to adopt a new and updated Platform.

        Of course, if @Loki were right about nobody reading the Platform, then all this is just Trump increasing the likelihood of GOP delegates contracting and spreading the SARS-CoV-2 virus by forcing them to travel to debate and vote for a Platform that no one will read.

        What do you think about that Platform now, @Loki ?

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        • taiwan_girlT Offline
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          @Axtremus I think @Loki is right.

          Very few people will vote (or change their vote) based on what is in the platform. One week after the convention has gone, even the most dedicated party people probably do not know much about the platform.

          If that was the case, I would start a new party with the following platform

          • there will be no crime
          • everybody will love one another
          • everyone who wants to work, will have a job they love and make a lot of money doing it
          • the sun will always shine, and rain will only come when people request it
          • there will be no poverty
          • our country will be loved by all other countries
          • etc.
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            TAIWAN-GIRL FOR PRESIDENT!!!!

            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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            • Catseye3C Catseye3

              TAIWAN-GIRL FOR PRESIDENT!!!!

              taiwan_girlT Offline
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              @Catseye3 said in Trump threatens to move convention if NC restricts capacity:

              TAIWAN-GIRL FOR PRESIDENT!!!!

              Thank you but I must decline! 😪 I was not born in the US. 🙁

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              • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                @Catseye3 said in Trump threatens to move convention if NC restricts capacity:

                TAIWAN-GIRL FOR PRESIDENT!!!!

                Thank you but I must decline! 😪 I was not born in the US. 🙁

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                @taiwan_girl said in Trump threatens to move convention if NC restricts capacity:

                @Catseye3 said in Trump threatens to move convention if NC restricts capacity:

                TAIWAN-GIRL FOR PRESIDENT!!!!

                Thank you but I must decline! 😪 I was not born in the US. 🙁

                And you're too smart to even consider the job.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • jon-nycJ Online
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                  #63

                  Adlai Stephenson once said ‘Running for president is like being a football coach. You have to be smart enough to know the game but dumb enough to think it’s important.”

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • RainmanR Offline
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                    Yes! Taiwan Girl for President (we can fix that constitution thing)
                    Now, positions for Cats and Brenda.

                    There'll be peace, in, the valley. . .

                    :female-judge: 👩‍🔬 👩‍🏭

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                    • George KG George K

                      @taiwan_girl said in Trump threatens to move convention if NC restricts capacity:

                      @Catseye3 said in Trump threatens to move convention if NC restricts capacity:

                      TAIWAN-GIRL FOR PRESIDENT!!!!

                      Thank you but I must decline! 😪 I was not born in the US. 🙁

                      And you're too smart to even consider the job.

                      taiwan_girlT Offline
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                      taiwan_girl
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                      @George-K I think that is true of everybody on this forum board!!!

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                      • AxtremusA Offline
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                        #66

                        https://floridapolitics.com/archives/342752-poll-shows-duval-voters-oppose-rnc-coming-to-jacksonville-worry-about-coronavirus-impact

                        Poll shows Duval voters oppose RNC coming to Jacksonville, worry about coronavirus impact

                        The poll was commissioned by an anti-Trump organization, so definitely take that with a fistful of salt.

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                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                          https://floridapolitics.com/archives/342752-poll-shows-duval-voters-oppose-rnc-coming-to-jacksonville-worry-about-coronavirus-impact

                          Poll shows Duval voters oppose RNC coming to Jacksonville, worry about coronavirus impact

                          The poll was commissioned by an anti-Trump organization, so definitely take that with a fistful of salt.

                          jon-nycJ Online
                          jon-nycJ Online
                          jon-nyc
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                          I can see that even among the more thoughtful Trump supporters.

                          The people who fly in for the convention are at least making a decision to accept any risk. The citizens of Jacksonville didn’t get a say in this.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            The 2016 Republican platform wasn't talking about Trump. It was talking about Obama. I know that Ax isn't smart enough to figure that out, but surely the rest of you figured that out.

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              I can see that even among the more thoughtful Trump supporters.

                              The people who fly in for the convention are at least making a decision to accept any risk. The citizens of Jacksonville didn’t get a say in this.

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                              @jon-nyc said in Trump threatens to move convention if NC restricts capacity:

                              I can see that even among the more thoughtful Trump supporters.

                              The people who fly in for the convention are at least making a decision to accept any risk. The citizens of Jacksonville didn’t get a say in this.

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                                jon-nyc
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                                Jacksonville made masks mandatory in public

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/04/us/politics/republican-convention-jacksonville-charlotte.html
                                  Donors are wondering why they gave to a Charlotte event that has mostly been scrapped. And Jacksonville fund-raisers find money is on hold because of concerns about the surge in virus cases.

                                  ‘WASHINGTON — The abrupt uprooting of the Republican National Convention from Charlotte to Jacksonville has created a tangled financial predicament for party officials as they effectively try to pay for two big events instead of one.

                                  Tens of millions of dollars have already been spent in a city that will now host little more than a G.O.P. business meeting, and donors are wary of opening their wallets again to bankroll a Jacksonville gathering thrown into uncertainty by a surge in coronavirus cases.
                                  ...’

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                                    Still, they are having a convention. What about dem donors?

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                                    • L Loki

                                      Still, they are having a convention. What about dem donors?

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                                      @Loki said in Trump threatens to move convention if NC restricts capacity:

                                      Still, they are having a convention. What about dem donors?

                                      Hopefully the Democratic donors put their money into something more productive, or at least something less endangering to public health.

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                                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                        @Loki said in Trump threatens to move convention if NC restricts capacity:

                                        Still, they are having a convention. What about dem donors?

                                        Hopefully the Democratic donors put their money into something more productive, or at least something less endangering to public health.

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                                        @Axtremus said in Trump threatens to move convention if NC restricts capacity:

                                        @Loki said in Trump threatens to move convention if NC restricts capacity:

                                        Still, they are having a convention. What about dem donors?

                                        Hopefully the Democratic donors put their money into something more productive, or at least something less endangering to public health.

                                        I think it’s more like not running for office. But I do get that strategy. An election year where one side really didn’t run.
                                        Donors got a vacation.

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                                          It looks like the Grand Old Party’s party is getting less grand and maybe less old.

                                          https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/07/07/several-republican-senators-say-they-not-attend-convention/5389380002/

                                          These prominent GOP members have said that they will not attend the Republican National Convention this year:

                                          • Sen. Chuck Grassley
                                          • Sen. Lamar Alexander
                                          • Sen. Lisa Murkowski
                                          • Sen. Susan Collins <== she says she’s just following her own historical pattern
                                          • Sen. Mitt Romney
                                          • Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner

                                          Chances are more will announce that they will not attend the RNC this year.

                                          Of course, one can still think that the RNC will still be yuge compared to the DNC since there may not be a real-life DNC at all.

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