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  • A Aqua Letifer
    21 Jan 2022, 18:43

    @lufins-dad said in Mask Observations:

    Worrying about masks now is kind of like worrying about putting on swimming trunks two hours after your house flooded.

    The primary function of masks is to keep other people safe from you, not the other way around. Because there's a lag time between being transmissible and being symptomatic.

    And as for keeping yourself safe, even if the mask you're wearing is not 100% effective (which is almost always due to user ignorance or mask material, which is a subset of user ignorance), it can drastically reduce the viral load you take in.

    But if you want to believe that pretty much every patient-facing medical professional in America is wearing masks because they're agents of the Fauci conspiracy, well, there's that I guess.

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    Copper
    wrote on 21 Jan 2022, 18:47 last edited by
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    @aqua-letifer said in Mask Observations:

    it can drastically reduce the viral load you take in.

    I thought this was debunked once and for all last week.

    Don't all scientists now agree that cloth masks provide no protection, or such a small amount of protection that they are worthless?

    Cloth masks, not N95s

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    • A Aqua Letifer
      21 Jan 2022, 18:43

      @lufins-dad said in Mask Observations:

      Worrying about masks now is kind of like worrying about putting on swimming trunks two hours after your house flooded.

      The primary function of masks is to keep other people safe from you, not the other way around. Because there's a lag time between being transmissible and being symptomatic.

      And as for keeping yourself safe, even if the mask you're wearing is not 100% effective (which is almost always due to user ignorance or mask material, which is a subset of user ignorance), it can drastically reduce the viral load you take in.

      But if you want to believe that pretty much every patient-facing medical professional in America is wearing masks because they're agents of the Fauci conspiracy, well, there's that I guess.

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      Jolly
      wrote on 21 Jan 2022, 21:44 last edited by
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      @aqua-letifer said in Mask Observations:

      @lufins-dad said in Mask Observations:

      Worrying about masks now is kind of like worrying about putting on swimming trunks two hours after your house flooded.

      The primary function of masks is to keep other people safe from you, not the other way around. Because there's a lag time between being transmissible and being symptomatic.

      And as for keeping yourself safe, even if the mask you're wearing is not 100% effective (which is almost always due to user ignorance or mask material, which is a subset of user ignorance), it can drastically reduce the viral load you take in.

      But if you want to believe that pretty much every patient-facing medical professional in America is wearing masks because they're agents of the Fauci conspiracy, well, there's that I guess.

      Walked in a lab today...Not one of the people in there was wearing a mask.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • J Jolly
        21 Jan 2022, 21:44

        @aqua-letifer said in Mask Observations:

        @lufins-dad said in Mask Observations:

        Worrying about masks now is kind of like worrying about putting on swimming trunks two hours after your house flooded.

        The primary function of masks is to keep other people safe from you, not the other way around. Because there's a lag time between being transmissible and being symptomatic.

        And as for keeping yourself safe, even if the mask you're wearing is not 100% effective (which is almost always due to user ignorance or mask material, which is a subset of user ignorance), it can drastically reduce the viral load you take in.

        But if you want to believe that pretty much every patient-facing medical professional in America is wearing masks because they're agents of the Fauci conspiracy, well, there's that I guess.

        Walked in a lab today...Not one of the people in there was wearing a mask.

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        Aqua Letifer
        wrote on 22 Jan 2022, 00:18 last edited by Aqua Letifer
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        @jolly said in Mask Observations:

        @aqua-letifer said in Mask Observations:

        @lufins-dad said in Mask Observations:

        Worrying about masks now is kind of like worrying about putting on swimming trunks two hours after your house flooded.

        The primary function of masks is to keep other people safe from you, not the other way around. Because there's a lag time between being transmissible and being symptomatic.

        And as for keeping yourself safe, even if the mask you're wearing is not 100% effective (which is almost always due to user ignorance or mask material, which is a subset of user ignorance), it can drastically reduce the viral load you take in.

        But if you want to believe that pretty much every patient-facing medical professional in America is wearing masks because they're agents of the Fauci conspiracy, well, there's that I guess.

        Walked in a lab today...Not one of the people in there was wearing a mask.

        patient-facing.

        Please love yourself.

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        • A Aqua Letifer
          22 Jan 2022, 00:18

          @jolly said in Mask Observations:

          @aqua-letifer said in Mask Observations:

          @lufins-dad said in Mask Observations:

          Worrying about masks now is kind of like worrying about putting on swimming trunks two hours after your house flooded.

          The primary function of masks is to keep other people safe from you, not the other way around. Because there's a lag time between being transmissible and being symptomatic.

          And as for keeping yourself safe, even if the mask you're wearing is not 100% effective (which is almost always due to user ignorance or mask material, which is a subset of user ignorance), it can drastically reduce the viral load you take in.

          But if you want to believe that pretty much every patient-facing medical professional in America is wearing masks because they're agents of the Fauci conspiracy, well, there's that I guess.

          Walked in a lab today...Not one of the people in there was wearing a mask.

          patient-facing.

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          Jolly
          wrote on 22 Jan 2022, 00:29 last edited by
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          @aqua-letifer said in Mask Observations:

          @jolly said in Mask Observations:

          @aqua-letifer said in Mask Observations:

          @lufins-dad said in Mask Observations:

          Worrying about masks now is kind of like worrying about putting on swimming trunks two hours after your house flooded.

          The primary function of masks is to keep other people safe from you, not the other way around. Because there's a lag time between being transmissible and being symptomatic.

          And as for keeping yourself safe, even if the mask you're wearing is not 100% effective (which is almost always due to user ignorance or mask material, which is a subset of user ignorance), it can drastically reduce the viral load you take in.

          But if you want to believe that pretty much every patient-facing medical professional in America is wearing masks because they're agents of the Fauci conspiracy, well, there's that I guess.

          Walked in a lab today...Not one of the people in there was wearing a mask.

          patient-facing.

          True, if we are working with a patient we mask. Not sure how effective that is.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • J Jolly
            22 Jan 2022, 00:29

            @aqua-letifer said in Mask Observations:

            @jolly said in Mask Observations:

            @aqua-letifer said in Mask Observations:

            @lufins-dad said in Mask Observations:

            Worrying about masks now is kind of like worrying about putting on swimming trunks two hours after your house flooded.

            The primary function of masks is to keep other people safe from you, not the other way around. Because there's a lag time between being transmissible and being symptomatic.

            And as for keeping yourself safe, even if the mask you're wearing is not 100% effective (which is almost always due to user ignorance or mask material, which is a subset of user ignorance), it can drastically reduce the viral load you take in.

            But if you want to believe that pretty much every patient-facing medical professional in America is wearing masks because they're agents of the Fauci conspiracy, well, there's that I guess.

            Walked in a lab today...Not one of the people in there was wearing a mask.

            patient-facing.

            True, if we are working with a patient we mask. Not sure how effective that is.

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            Aqua Letifer
            wrote on 22 Jan 2022, 00:36 last edited by
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            @jolly said in Mask Observations:

            @aqua-letifer said in Mask Observations:

            @jolly said in Mask Observations:

            @aqua-letifer said in Mask Observations:

            @lufins-dad said in Mask Observations:

            Worrying about masks now is kind of like worrying about putting on swimming trunks two hours after your house flooded.

            The primary function of masks is to keep other people safe from you, not the other way around. Because there's a lag time between being transmissible and being symptomatic.

            And as for keeping yourself safe, even if the mask you're wearing is not 100% effective (which is almost always due to user ignorance or mask material, which is a subset of user ignorance), it can drastically reduce the viral load you take in.

            But if you want to believe that pretty much every patient-facing medical professional in America is wearing masks because they're agents of the Fauci conspiracy, well, there's that I guess.

            Walked in a lab today...Not one of the people in there was wearing a mask.

            patient-facing.

            True, if we are working with a patient we mask. Not sure how effective that is.

            I don't see how the cost/benefit could possibly lead to not wearing one unless the circumstances were extraordinary.

            Please love yourself.

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              Copper
              wrote on 18 Apr 2022, 23:16 last edited by
              #11

              https://www.foxnews.com/politics/white-house-federal-ruling-toss-mask-mandate-disappointing-decision

              White House calls federal ruling to toss mask mandate 'a disappointing decision'

              A federal judge on Monday voided the Biden administration's transportation mask mandate from the CDC

              The White House said the federal court ruling Monday to void the Biden administration’s mask mandate for travelers using public transportation such as trains and airplanes was "obviously a disappointing decision" in light of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recommending its order for passengers to wear face coverings be extended.

              A federal judge on Monday voided the Biden administration's transportation mask mandate from the CDC, which applies to people as young as 2 years old, and had been set to expire a number of times. The order was recently extended to May 3 before Monday’s ruling.

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                Copper
                wrote on 18 Apr 2022, 23:17 last edited by
                #12

                https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/united-airlines-covid-masks-remain-federal-judge-blocks-bidens-mask-mandate

                United says, no more masks

                Airlines split on COVID mask policy after federal judge blocks Biden’s mask mandate for travelers: report

                The CDC said it was extending its travel mask mandate until May 3

                United Airlines on Monday said it would no longer enforce COVID mask mandates for employees and travelers after a federal judge’s move to void the Biden administration’s mask mandate for travelers.

                "Effective immediately, masks are no longer required at United on domestic flights, select international flights (dependent upon the arrival country’s mask requirements) or at U.S. airports," the company told FOX Business in a statement."

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 18 Apr 2022, 23:41 last edited by
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                  Watched NBC this evening. Even with the spin, they could find no fault in the judge's ruling.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    Horace
                    wrote on 19 Apr 2022, 00:00 last edited by
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                    The only reason I ever wear a mask is to reduce to zero my chances of having an unrequested interaction with anybody who might ask me to wear a mask. Those people are the worst, and to be avoided at all costs.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • HoraceH Horace
                      19 Apr 2022, 00:00

                      The only reason I ever wear a mask is to reduce to zero my chances of having an unrequested interaction with anybody who might ask me to wear a mask. Those people are the worst, and to be avoided at all costs.

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                      Aqua Letifer
                      wrote on 19 Apr 2022, 00:12 last edited by
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                      @Horace said in Mask Observations:

                      The only reason I ever wear a mask is to reduce to zero my chances of having an unrequested interaction with anybody who might ask me to wear a mask. Those people are the worst, and to be avoided at all costs.

                      Strong moral stands are fun.

                      Please love yourself.

                      HoraceH 1 Reply Last reply 19 Apr 2022, 00:23
                      • A Aqua Letifer
                        19 Apr 2022, 00:12

                        @Horace said in Mask Observations:

                        The only reason I ever wear a mask is to reduce to zero my chances of having an unrequested interaction with anybody who might ask me to wear a mask. Those people are the worst, and to be avoided at all costs.

                        Strong moral stands are fun.

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 19 Apr 2022, 00:23 last edited by
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                        @Aqua-Letifer said in Mask Observations:

                        @Horace said in Mask Observations:

                        The only reason I ever wear a mask is to reduce to zero my chances of having an unrequested interaction with anybody who might ask me to wear a mask. Those people are the worst, and to be avoided at all costs.

                        Strong moral stands are fun.

                        They're only fun if they rely on morality nobody questions. Otherwise they're risky, edge-lord stuff. Like my post, about masks and why I wear them these days.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          Copper
                          wrote on 19 Apr 2022, 20:24 last edited by
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                          Science at work on the front page of the Boston Globe

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                            Ivorythumper
                            wrote on 19 Apr 2022, 22:41 last edited by
                            #18

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                            • IvorythumperI Ivorythumper
                              19 Apr 2022, 22:41

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                              Horace
                              wrote on 20 Apr 2022, 00:43 last edited by
                              #19

                              @Ivorythumper said in Mask Observations:

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                              The day after Trump got elected, one of my coworkers started a meeting by telling everybody her 9 year old son cried at the election results. Too bad it wasn't satire. Just a parent who indoctrinated their kid into feeling certain feelings, then got their shocked and outraged face on when their kid felt the feelings.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                Copper
                                wrote on 20 Apr 2022, 14:31 last edited by
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                                Today's wapo headline

                                "Whoops of selfish delight" just like yesterday's Boston globe

                                Today's word for democrat mask lovers is Selfish!

                                Science at work

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                                • C Copper
                                  20 Apr 2022, 14:31

                                  Today's wapo headline

                                  "Whoops of selfish delight" just like yesterday's Boston globe

                                  Today's word for democrat mask lovers is Selfish!

                                  Science at work

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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on 20 Apr 2022, 15:17 last edited by
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                                  @Copper said in Mask Observations:

                                  Today's wapo headline

                                  "Whoops of selfish delight" just like yesterday's Boston globe

                                  Today's word for democrat mask lovers is Selfish!

                                  Science at work

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                                  Wait… “Reporters answer your questions about masks”?

                                  They have medical expertise now?

                                  The Brad

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                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on 20 Apr 2022, 15:18 last edited by
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                                    @Jolly @George-K can you think of some interesting questions to ask these expert reporters?

                                    The Brad

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                                      Ivorythumper
                                      wrote on 22 Apr 2022, 03:43 last edited by
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                                      Liberals really just want to be slaves….

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                                      • IvorythumperI Ivorythumper
                                        22 Apr 2022, 03:43

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                                        Liberals really just want to be slaves….

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                                        Aqua Letifer
                                        wrote on 22 Apr 2022, 04:20 last edited by
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                                        @Ivorythumper said in Mask Observations:

                                        Liberals really just want to be slaves….

                                        I don't think so. I think their perspective is that the Nazis—which is anyone not liberal—want to intern mankind in patriarchal concentration camps, and so they must be stopped by any means necessary.

                                        So with masks for example, they aren't kowtowing in their reality. They're protecting the good people from no-mask-wearing Nazis. There's no difference in their mind between following mandates they agree with and being the enforcers.

                                        If they wanted to be slaves, they'd be constantly looking to be told what to do. But their focus is on pretending to be Captain America fighting the supreme evil that is everything not liberal.

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                        • A Aqua Letifer
                                          22 Apr 2022, 04:20

                                          @Ivorythumper said in Mask Observations:

                                          Liberals really just want to be slaves….

                                          I don't think so. I think their perspective is that the Nazis—which is anyone not liberal—want to intern mankind in patriarchal concentration camps, and so they must be stopped by any means necessary.

                                          So with masks for example, they aren't kowtowing in their reality. They're protecting the good people from no-mask-wearing Nazis. There's no difference in their mind between following mandates they agree with and being the enforcers.

                                          If they wanted to be slaves, they'd be constantly looking to be told what to do. But their focus is on pretending to be Captain America fighting the supreme evil that is everything not liberal.

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                                          Ivorythumper
                                          wrote on 22 Apr 2022, 13:40 last edited by
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                                          I was having internet troubles last night, so this didn’t attach. This was the reference for my comment that liberals just want to be slaves.

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