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The Tesla Killer

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    https://www.the-sun.com/motors/4396577/mercedes-benz-vision-eqxx-electric-car-tesla/

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • KlausK Online
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      Klaus
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      Wake me up when the Tesla killer can actually be bought.

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
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        #3

        Mercedes probably won't sell a car like this for a few more years

        LOLGF

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • MikM Offline
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          Mik
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          #4

          It may contest the Tesla S series, but not the lower priced ones. And who knows where Tesla will be in terms of distance by the time this is commercially available.

          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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          • KlausK Online
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            Klaus
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            #5

            I don't know whether it's a "Tesla killer" but the new Mercedes EQS, which can be bought today, looks pretty good in comparison to a Tesla S. Bigger range & nicer looking than a Tesla S. Also, more expensive.

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            • AxtremusA Offline
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              #6

              Why Tesla “killer”?
              Why do you want to have Tesla “killed”?
              I’d happy to have many Tesla “(worthy) competitors,” if only for the sake of free market competition.
              As it is, Tesla still plays a role in pushing the industry forward; I would not want Tesla “killed.”

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              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                Why Tesla “killer”?
                Why do you want to have Tesla “killed”?
                I’d happy to have many Tesla “(worthy) competitors,” if only for the sake of free market competition.
                As it is, Tesla still plays a role in pushing the industry forward; I would not want Tesla “killed.”

                KlausK Online
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                Klaus
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                #7

                @axtremus said in The Tesla Killer:

                Why Tesla “killer”?
                Why do you want to have Tesla “killed”?
                I’d happy to have many Tesla “(worthy) competitors,” if only for the sake of free market competition.
                As it is, Tesla still plays a role in pushing the industry forward; I would not want Tesla “killed.”

                Homework for Ax:

                Write a 300 word essay on what people mean when they use the word "Tesla killer".

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                • CopperC Offline
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                  Copper
                  wrote on last edited by Copper
                  #8

                  https://www.forbes.com/wheels/news/what-your-car-might-say-about-how-you-vote/

                  Top Models that Over-Index
                          Democratic	              Liberal/Progressive (no party affiliation)
                  1	Honda Civic Sedan	Tesla Model 3
                  2	Honda Accord Sedan	Honda Civic Sedan
                  3	Subaru Forester	        Toyota RAV4 Hybrid
                  4	Jeep Compass	        Honda Civic Hatchback
                  5	Honda HR-V	        Chevrolet Trax
                  6	Nissan Sentra	        Kia Forte Sedan
                  7	Nissan Altima Sedan	Ford F-150
                  8	Volkswagen Tiguan	Mazda3 Sedan
                  9	Subaru Crosstrek	Subaru Outback
                  10	Tesla Model 3	       Honda Insight
                  
                  Source: Strategic Vision NVES
                  
                  Top Models that Over-Index
                  
                            Republican       Conservative (no party affiliation)
                  1	Ram 2500/3500      Ford F-250/350
                  2	Ford F-150         Ford F-150
                  3	GMC Sierra 1500	   Ford Ranger
                  4	Chevrolet Silverado 1500	Kia Forte Sedan
                  5	Ram 1500	        Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
                  6	Ford Explorer	Honda Odyssey
                  7	Ford F-250/350	Chevrolet Silverado 2500/3500
                  8	Toyota Tundra	Mazda CX-9
                  9	GMC Sierra 2500/3500	Ram 1500
                  10	Chevrolet Silverado 2500/3500	GMC Yukon
                  
                  Source: Strategic Vision NVES
                  
                  Top Models that Over-Index
                  
                  Independent/No Party Preference
                  1	Honda Civic Sedan
                  2	Dodge Charger
                  3	Nissan Sentra
                  4	Honda Accord Sedan
                  5	Honda CR-V
                  6	Toyota Tacoma
                  7	Hyundai Kona
                  8	Subaru Forester
                  9	Honda HR-V
                  10	Toyota RAV4
                  Source: Strategic Vision NVES
                  
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                  • AxtremusA Offline
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                    #9

                    In China ...

                    https://www.nbcnews.com/world/asia/chinese-evs-take-world-storm-united-states-rcna344680

                    I do not trust cars from China in the same sense that I do not trust network routers from China or computers from China. Still, articles like this makes me question of the American car industry is still alive only because of protectionism.

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                    • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                      But, on the other hand, not very many of them are making money. Most of them are in trouble.

                      The electric vehicle boom in China has reshaped the global automotive landscape, but not every player in the field is built to last. While China’s automotive industry has grown into a formidable force, a new report suggests that only a fraction of the country’s EV brands may survive the coming years.

                      With hundreds of startups already gone and consolidation gaining momentum, China’s EV market is headed for a major transformation.

                      In 2018, it was estimated that over 500 companies in China were developing and planning to build “new energy” vehicles. Many of these companies failed to get off the ground and quickly folded. As of 2024, it’s understood that there were 129 companies selling NEVs in China.

                      According to consulting firm AlixPartners, just 15 of these are expected to remain financially viable through 2030. While the consultancy firm didn’t name which companies it expects to thrive, these 15 brands could account for roughly 75 percent of China’s total EV and plug-in hybrid market. Some of them have already reached full-year profitability.

                      According to the head of AlixPartners’ automotive practice in Asia, Stephen Dyer, some local governments may support non-viable companies to protect jobs and economies. As such, consolidation may proceed more slowly across the industry in the coming five years.

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