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  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

    Weird that you posted about this today. I just read that the guy died.

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    LuFins Dad
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    #26

    @taiwan_girl said in Heart Transplant:

    Weird that you posted about this today. I just read that the guy died.

    Yep, I saw that too.

    The Brad

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      https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2022/03/09/human-pig-heart-transplant-patient-dies/9437650002/

      The transplant patient died.

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      • AxtremusA Axtremus

        https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2022/03/09/human-pig-heart-transplant-patient-dies/9437650002/

        The transplant patient died.

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        Ivorythumper
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        #28

        do the dark humor jokes go here or in the designated thread?

        I'm sorry to hear that.

        It was brave that he decided to be a guinea pig.

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          #29

          This is a win.

          The patient was in horrible shape, and there's no way they would have put a human donor heart in him.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • MikM Offline
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            A big win. Two months for the first attempt is a pretty good indication of viability.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • MikM Mik

              A big win. Two months for the first attempt is a pretty good indication of viability.

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              @Mik said in Heart Transplant:

              A big win.

              Not for pigs, it isn't.

              I was only joking

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                Still viable for bacon.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  The transplant raised ethical concerns among animal rights activists, who believe animals should not be sacrificed for human benefit, and among some who objected to Bennett, who had served time in prison for attacking a man with a knife, receiving a life-extending procedure.

                  Well, there’s two groups of people who can go fuck themselves.

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    The transplant raised ethical concerns among animal rights activists, who believe animals should not be sacrificed for human benefit, and among some who objected to Bennett, who had served time in prison for attacking a man with a knife, receiving a life-extending procedure.

                    Well, there’s two groups of people who can go fuck themselves.

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                    @jon-nyc said in Heart Transplant:

                    The transplant raised ethical concerns among animal rights activists, who believe animals should not be sacrificed for human benefit, and among some who objected to Bennett, who had served time in prison for attacking a man with a knife, receiving a life-extending procedure.

                    Well, there’s two groups of people who can go fuck themselves.

                    Couldn't agree more.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      Their virtue can seem antisocial to some. That's why virtue such as theirs also requires courage.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        #36

                        Maybe they should give the guy's heart to the pig. At least give him a fighting chance.

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                          Pig virus may have been one factor in historic pig heart transplant patient's death

                          The death of David Bennett Sr., who received a pig heart in place of his own, may have been hastened by another thing he got from the pig: a common virus.

                          In Bennett's weakened state, the virus called pig cytomegalovirus or CMV might have been one of several factors that contributed to his eventual demise, according to Dr. Muhammad Mohiuddin, who co-led the University of Maryland Medicine team, that performed the Jan. 7 transplant.

                          Bennett died two months after receiving the pig heart, which itself was a last-ditch effort to save his life.

                          An autopsy after Bennett's death suggested that while the pig heart had been pumping well, scar tissue was building up in the organ, thickening it and preventing it from fully relaxing after pushing through the blood.

                          Examination also revealed the presence of pig cytomegalovirus, the porcine version of a very common human virus usually kept in check by the immune system. A PCR analysis of tissue from Bennett's heart showed some viral DNA, though researchers found no clear signs of infection.

                          The pig CMV clearly came from the transplant and was not something Bennett caught earlier, Mohiuddin said, although the pig had been checked for the virus using all available testing methods.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            That's interesting. How do you guaranty a totally disease-free pig?

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              That's interesting. How do you guaranty a totally disease-free pig?

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                              @Jolly said in Heart Transplant:

                              That's interesting. How do you guaranty a totally disease-free pig?

                              Aqua's Sister in 3....2....1...

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                #40

                                Interestingly I take an antiviral to protect me from (human) CMV which my donor had but I didn't. I have to take it forever.

                                CMV is very common, if I had had it pre-transplant it wouldn't be a problem and I wouldn't take the anti-virals. But if I catch it now it could be an issue.

                                BTW, Moderna is working on a vaccine for it.

                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

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                                  I suppose that’s another risk with “non-human to human” transplant — we may hasten a whole bunch of viruses “jumping” from non-human to human, and this has implications far beyond transplant patients.

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                                    Still, two months is remarkable. The first human heart transplant lasted 18 days.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      Pig-Heart Transplants in Two Brain-Dead People Offer Chance to Improve Tests for Pig Viruses

                                      Two brain-dead individuals received genetically modified pig-heart transplants, part of growing efforts by scientists who want to improve tests on pig organs for pig viruses and gather data that could help launch clinical trials of animal-to-human organ transplants.

                                      Scientists at NYU Langone Health, where the research studies took place in June and July, said the pig hearts were flown from a facility hundreds of miles away and then transplanted into two recently deceased individuals, Lawrence Kelly, 72, a former welder from Beaver Meadows, Pa., and Alva Capuano, 64, a former teacher from New York City.

                                      Mr. Kelly was driving alone in his car when he suffered a heart attack, according to his fiancée, Alice Michael. Ms. Capuano, who had been the recipient of a kidney transplant from her son many years ago, had a heart attack while at home, said her husband, Richard Capuano.

                                      Both individuals were later declared brain-dead and maintained on ventilators. Their families agreed to donate their bodies to science, to take part in the research studies. In the U.S., brain death is defined as the irreversible cessation of all brain function, even if heart and lung activity can be maintained with machines.

                                      The studies focused on gathering data about how the pig hearts functioned as well as implementing a new set of strategies to test for and prevent the transmission of pig viruses—a longtime area of concern by the Food and Drug Administration that has intensified in the wake of the death of a Maryland man who in January was transplanted with a pig heart that was later discovered to have a pig virus in it.

                                      In the NYU studies, researchers used a newly created infectious-disease protocol designed to help ensure that pig viruses weren’t transmitted to the research subjects who received the hearts or the team of health providers involved in the experiments.

                                      The pig hearts weren’t immediately rejected by the recipients’ bodies and functioned for the duration of the three-day studies, according to Nader Moazami, surgical director of heart transplantation at NYU Langone Health, who led the pig-heart procedures. The data haven’t been published yet or peer-reviewed.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        Pig-Heart Transplants in Two Brain-Dead People Offer Chance to Improve Tests for Pig Viruses

                                        Two brain-dead individuals received genetically modified pig-heart transplants, part of growing efforts by scientists who want to improve tests on pig organs for pig viruses and gather data that could help launch clinical trials of animal-to-human organ transplants.

                                        Scientists at NYU Langone Health, where the research studies took place in June and July, said the pig hearts were flown from a facility hundreds of miles away and then transplanted into two recently deceased individuals, Lawrence Kelly, 72, a former welder from Beaver Meadows, Pa., and Alva Capuano, 64, a former teacher from New York City.

                                        Mr. Kelly was driving alone in his car when he suffered a heart attack, according to his fiancée, Alice Michael. Ms. Capuano, who had been the recipient of a kidney transplant from her son many years ago, had a heart attack while at home, said her husband, Richard Capuano.

                                        Both individuals were later declared brain-dead and maintained on ventilators. Their families agreed to donate their bodies to science, to take part in the research studies. In the U.S., brain death is defined as the irreversible cessation of all brain function, even if heart and lung activity can be maintained with machines.

                                        The studies focused on gathering data about how the pig hearts functioned as well as implementing a new set of strategies to test for and prevent the transmission of pig viruses—a longtime area of concern by the Food and Drug Administration that has intensified in the wake of the death of a Maryland man who in January was transplanted with a pig heart that was later discovered to have a pig virus in it.

                                        In the NYU studies, researchers used a newly created infectious-disease protocol designed to help ensure that pig viruses weren’t transmitted to the research subjects who received the hearts or the team of health providers involved in the experiments.

                                        The pig hearts weren’t immediately rejected by the recipients’ bodies and functioned for the duration of the three-day studies, according to Nader Moazami, surgical director of heart transplantation at NYU Langone Health, who led the pig-heart procedures. The data haven’t been published yet or peer-reviewed.

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                                        Renauda
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                                        @George-K

                                        Democrats, eh?

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • RenaudaR Renauda

                                          @George-K

                                          Democrats, eh?

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                                          @Renauda said in Pig Heart Transplant:

                                          @George-K

                                          Democrats, eh?

                                          There'd be little point in transplanting Republican hearts as they don't have one in the first place.

                                          I was only joking

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