Pandemic of the vaccinated?
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@jon-nyc said in Pandemic of the vaccinated?:
If everyone is vaccinated then 100% of the cases will be breakthrough cases. This is not a measure of vaccine efficacy like the anti-vaxxers want you to believe.
That would be an effective argument if there weren’t 1) a significantly large cohort of unvaxxed (there is) and 2) the overall number of cases were reducing (they aren’t).
Initially there was a push on the vaccines preventing spread in official pressers then they shifted to effectiveness against severe COVID. However, the entire push for vaccine mandates has been about preventing spread and that unvaxxed individuals are a danger to their Aunt Agnes and everyone around them.
@lufins-dad said in Pandemic of the vaccinated?:
@jon-nyc said in Pandemic of the vaccinated?:
If everyone is vaccinated then 100% of the cases will be breakthrough cases. This is not a measure of vaccine efficacy like the anti-vaxxers want you to believe.
That would be an effective argument if there weren’t 1) a significantly large cohort of unvaxxed (there is) and 2) the overall number of cases were reducing (they aren’t).
Initially there was a push on the vaccines preventing spread in official pressers then they shifted to effectiveness against severe COVID.
They "changed their minds" about this because variants initially were not very effective in causing breakthrough cases. Then they were, and very much so.
The pandemic keeps changing. That's why the recommended practices do.
And then there are the policy assholes who now have to develop rules for not only the biggest change in our day-to-day in living history, but one that didn't exist two years ago.
There are going to be many policy screw-ups. Very few of these people are rubbing their hands together, laughing to themselves in their basements. Most of them are just incompetent.
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@lufins-dad said in Pandemic of the vaccinated?:
@jon-nyc said in Pandemic of the vaccinated?:
If everyone is vaccinated then 100% of the cases will be breakthrough cases. This is not a measure of vaccine efficacy like the anti-vaxxers want you to believe.
That would be an effective argument if there weren’t 1) a significantly large cohort of unvaxxed (there is) and 2) the overall number of cases were reducing (they aren’t).
Initially there was a push on the vaccines preventing spread in official pressers then they shifted to effectiveness against severe COVID.
They "changed their minds" about this because variants initially were not very effective in causing breakthrough cases. Then they were, and very much so.
The pandemic keeps changing. That's why the recommended practices do.
And then there are the policy assholes who now have to develop rules for not only the biggest change in our day-to-day in living history, but one that didn't exist two years ago.
There are going to be many policy screw-ups. Very few of these people are rubbing their hands together, laughing to themselves in their basements. Most of them are just incompetent.
@aqua-letifer said in Pandemic of the vaccinated?:
Very few of these people are rubbing their hands together, laughing to themselves in their basements. Most of them are just incompetent.
Yes? I've never said that these people are maniacal geniuses with evil plots. I think most of them are well-intentioned incompetents. That doesn't make their decisions any less damaging.
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Yep. What I have always heard is it won't necessarily prevent infection but reduces the chance of severe disease.
@mik said in Pandemic of the vaccinated?:
Yep. What I have always heard is it won't necessarily prevent infection but reduces the chance of severe disease.
This was always the message I have been hearing, even from the beginning before vaccines.
It was always "flatten the curve", keep hospitals from overwhelming, etc.
