The "Outlaw Ocean" NYT Scam
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wrote on 2 Jan 2022, 18:24 last edited by
I think @bachophile read this book, maybe @kluurs too? I did.
Anyway, this is amazing. @Larry , have you ever seen anything like this?
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wrote on 2 Jan 2022, 19:35 last edited by Larry 1 Feb 2022, 19:37
This one is difficult. The contracts and business end of the music business is a minefield, and it's not uncommon for a person to get royalties for doing next to nothing equal to the royalties of the one who did the majority of the work. I have gotten royalties on stuff that my only contribution was being in the engineer's booth during the session and saying "it would sound better at measure 87 if they played a B diminished instead of a B7. If they changed it and recorded it with a B diminished, then "money money money."
But while it's true that record labels and publishing houses jockey hard to take as big a cut as they can, and only a fool would sign anything without a music attorney, nothing is dishonest like what's being described in that video.
That said, the legal "games" that get played in the "everything is not as it seems" department would blow your mind.
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wrote on 3 Jan 2022, 02:53 last edited by
I need to clarify something... there ARE different royalties, and the ones I'm talking about do not get larger as more people take a slice, the slices get thinner.
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I need to clarify something... there ARE different royalties, and the ones I'm talking about do not get larger as more people take a slice, the slices get thinner.
wrote on 3 Jan 2022, 02:59 last edited by@larry said in The "Outlaw Ocean" NYT Scam:
I need to clarify something... there ARE different royalties, and the ones I'm talking about do not get larger as more people take a slice, the slices get thinner.
Seems like the contract in the music business is in need of a serious overhaul?
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@larry said in The "Outlaw Ocean" NYT Scam:
I need to clarify something... there ARE different royalties, and the ones I'm talking about do not get larger as more people take a slice, the slices get thinner.
Seems like the contract in the music business is in need of a serious overhaul?
wrote on 3 Jan 2022, 05:21 last edited by@aqua-letifer said in The "Outlaw Ocean" NYT Scam:
@larry said in The "Outlaw Ocean" NYT Scam:
I need to clarify something... there ARE different royalties, and the ones I'm talking about do not get larger as more people take a slice, the slices get thinner.
Seems like the contract in the music business is in need of a serious overhaul?
There isn't "a contract". Each one is negotiated differently. The ones that resemble the mess this guy talked about are usually the ones done with newbies with no agent or legal representation, who think things like "wow!! I've got a contract!!" He fell for it, I would have laughed at them.
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wrote on 3 Jan 2022, 08:25 last edited by
Great book.