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Looking for a gouda gruyere alternative

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    Klaus
    wrote on 1 Jan 2022, 17:13 last edited by
    #4

    Gouda gruyere? That sounds like a contradiction. Gouda is a Dutch cheese. Gruyere is a Swiss cheese that taste very different from Gouda. I had Gruyere just yesterday, when we used it for Raclette.

    Mozzarella is even more different from Gruyere than Gouda.

    Maybe you can get Appenzeller? Or Beaufort?

    I guess the smoked variant would also be ok.

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    • K Klaus
      1 Jan 2022, 17:13

      Gouda gruyere? That sounds like a contradiction. Gouda is a Dutch cheese. Gruyere is a Swiss cheese that taste very different from Gouda. I had Gruyere just yesterday, when we used it for Raclette.

      Mozzarella is even more different from Gruyere than Gouda.

      Maybe you can get Appenzeller? Or Beaufort?

      I guess the smoked variant would also be ok.

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      George K
      wrote on 1 Jan 2022, 18:18 last edited by
      #5

      @klaus said in Looking for a gouda gruyere alternative:

      Gouda gruyere?

      It was a bad pun on a "Good-a gruyere" alternative.

      https://www.devourdinner.com/instant-pot-french-onion-meatballs/?fbclid=IwAR1Vkw6yWe7Cl-CNANjLtkPGvgLWkmphKpkIeONVyfowYfjZcWd3pQDP0ys

      Ingredients:
      4 tablespoons butter
      2 medium sweet onions
      1/3 cup white wine
      2 cups beef broth
      2 tablespoons Dijon mustard
      1 teaspoon Worcestershire sauce
      1 tablespoon fresh thyme
      3 cloves garlic, minced
      1 tablespoon balsamic vinegar
      3 tablespoons flour
      4 ounces Gruyere cheese, grated
      1 pkg frozen Italian Meatballs

      Set Instant Pot / Pressure Cooker to Saute and wait until it reads “Hot”
      Add Butter and sliced onions and saute. Cook for 10-12 minutes or until onions begin to turn brown and caramelize. I own 4 Pressure Cookers and each one tends to saute a little differently. I find some are quicker than others. So watch your onions, they may cook faster than mine did!
      Add fresh Thyme and garlic and cook for another 1-2 minutes
      Sprinkle flour over onions and stir.
      Add 1 cup of broth to deglaze Instant Pot by lifting up any stuck bits
      Turn off Instant Pot
      Add in remaining broth, wine, mustard, balsamic vinegar, Worcestershire sauce and stir
      Place frozen meatballs on top and close lid making sure pressure valve is in the closed position
      Set to Pressure Cook High for 1 minute and Quick Release the Pressure
      Serve as an Appetizer with Toothpicks OR over Rice or Noodles as a meal

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

      K 1 Reply Last reply 2 Jan 2022, 14:42
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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 1 Jan 2022, 18:47 last edited by
        #6

        Emmemtal or another Swiss cheese.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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          Mik
          wrote on 1 Jan 2022, 21:44 last edited by
          #7

          Just use whatcha got. It's not worth a trip to the store. Personally, I'd prefer the smoked.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • M Mik
            1 Jan 2022, 21:44

            Just use whatcha got. It's not worth a trip to the store. Personally, I'd prefer the smoked.

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            George K
            wrote on 1 Jan 2022, 21:57 last edited by
            #8

            @mik said in Looking for a gouda gruyere alternative:

            I'd prefer the smoked.

            That's the plan.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              George K
              wrote on 2 Jan 2022, 00:39 last edited by
              #9

              What a disappointment.

              I wanted French Onion Soup with some meatballs thrown in.

              This tasted NOTHING like French Onion Soup.

              Was it good? Yeah, on a scale of 5, about a 3, perhaps 2 ½. In other words, I wouldn't throw it out after tasting it.

              Was it French Onion? Not at all.

              Not. At. All.

              Will I make it again? No way, no how. Life is too short for recipes that disappoint.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • G George K
                1 Jan 2022, 18:18

                @klaus said in Looking for a gouda gruyere alternative:

                Gouda gruyere?

                It was a bad pun on a "Good-a gruyere" alternative.

                https://www.devourdinner.com/instant-pot-french-onion-meatballs/?fbclid=IwAR1Vkw6yWe7Cl-CNANjLtkPGvgLWkmphKpkIeONVyfowYfjZcWd3pQDP0ys

                Ingredients:
                4 tablespoons butter
                2 medium sweet onions
                1/3 cup white wine
                2 cups beef broth
                2 tablespoons Dijon mustard
                1 teaspoon Worcestershire sauce
                1 tablespoon fresh thyme
                3 cloves garlic, minced
                1 tablespoon balsamic vinegar
                3 tablespoons flour
                4 ounces Gruyere cheese, grated
                1 pkg frozen Italian Meatballs

                Set Instant Pot / Pressure Cooker to Saute and wait until it reads “Hot”
                Add Butter and sliced onions and saute. Cook for 10-12 minutes or until onions begin to turn brown and caramelize. I own 4 Pressure Cookers and each one tends to saute a little differently. I find some are quicker than others. So watch your onions, they may cook faster than mine did!
                Add fresh Thyme and garlic and cook for another 1-2 minutes
                Sprinkle flour over onions and stir.
                Add 1 cup of broth to deglaze Instant Pot by lifting up any stuck bits
                Turn off Instant Pot
                Add in remaining broth, wine, mustard, balsamic vinegar, Worcestershire sauce and stir
                Place frozen meatballs on top and close lid making sure pressure valve is in the closed position
                Set to Pressure Cook High for 1 minute and Quick Release the Pressure
                Serve as an Appetizer with Toothpicks OR over Rice or Noodles as a meal

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                Klaus
                wrote on 2 Jan 2022, 14:42 last edited by Klaus 1 Feb 2022, 14:48
                #10

                @george-k said in Looking for a gouda gruyere alternative:

                Ingredients:
                4 tablespoons butter
                2 medium sweet onions
                1/3 cup white wine
                2 cups beef broth
                2 tablespoons Dijon mustard
                1 teaspoon Worcestershire sauce
                1 tablespoon fresh thyme
                3 cloves garlic, minced
                1 tablespoon balsamic vinegar
                3 tablespoons flour
                4 ounces Gruyere cheese, grated
                1 pkg frozen Italian Meatballs

                2 onions in an onion soup?

                No wonder it doesn’t taste like onion soup.

                French onion soup is so simple that it’s hard to get wrong. This recipe manages.

                Lots of onions, some garlic, butter, broth, white wine, bread, cheese, flour, pepper, salt. Done.

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                • K Klaus
                  2 Jan 2022, 14:42

                  @george-k said in Looking for a gouda gruyere alternative:

                  Ingredients:
                  4 tablespoons butter
                  2 medium sweet onions
                  1/3 cup white wine
                  2 cups beef broth
                  2 tablespoons Dijon mustard
                  1 teaspoon Worcestershire sauce
                  1 tablespoon fresh thyme
                  3 cloves garlic, minced
                  1 tablespoon balsamic vinegar
                  3 tablespoons flour
                  4 ounces Gruyere cheese, grated
                  1 pkg frozen Italian Meatballs

                  2 onions in an onion soup?

                  No wonder it doesn’t taste like onion soup.

                  French onion soup is so simple that it’s hard to get wrong. This recipe manages.

                  Lots of onions, some garlic, butter, broth, white wine, bread, cheese, flour, pepper, salt. Done.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 2 Jan 2022, 14:57 last edited by
                  #11

                  @klaus said in Looking for a gouda gruyere alternative:

                  French onion soup is so simple that it’s hard to get wrong.

                  Believe it or not, I've never made it. So, I'll chalk this up to learning.

                  How is this recipe?

                  1/4 cup butter (1/2 stick)
                  4 medium yellow onions (about 3 pounds), sliced
                  1 tbsp sugar
                  3/4 tsp salt
                  1/4 tsp black pepper
                  1/4 cup dry white wine or sherry
                  8 cups beef broth
                  8-16 slices French bread
                  1 cup shredded Gruyère or Swiss cheese

                  Press Sauté; melt butter in Instant Pot®. Add onions; cook 15 minutes, stirring occasionally. Add sugar, salt and pepper; cook and stir 5 to 7 minutes or until onions are golden brown. Add wine; cook and stir 1 minute or until evaporated. Stir in broth; mix well.

                  Secure lid and move pressure release valve to Sealing position. Press Manual or Pressure Cook; cook at high pressure 5 minutes.
                  When cooking is complete, press Cancel and use quick release.

                  Preheat broiler.

                  Ladle soup into individual ovenproof bowls; top with 1 or 2 slices bread and about 2 tablespoons cheese. Place bowls on large baking sheet. Broil 1 to 2 minutes or until bread is toasted and cheese is melted and browned.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                  K 1 Reply Last reply 2 Jan 2022, 15:57
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                    Mik
                    wrote on 2 Jan 2022, 15:34 last edited by
                    #12

                    Just got this in the mail from Bon Appetit.

                    https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/french-onion-beef-noodle-soup?utm_source=nl&utm_brand=ba&utm_mailing=BA_ROTD_010222_AM&utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_medium=email&bxid=5be9fba53f92a4046938da94&cndid=43346476&hasha=2127aee77c7a5b6be2d2c611f646d27e&hashb=b1732cab800790af945568c94383a4b671277c58&hashc=58c5a091ef359c3afbf31ef509debc9b8d48d793d7f3d1a9d2ae11b824e27e86&esrc=homepage-menu&utm_term=BA_Recipe_Of_The_Day

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • G George K
                      2 Jan 2022, 14:57

                      @klaus said in Looking for a gouda gruyere alternative:

                      French onion soup is so simple that it’s hard to get wrong.

                      Believe it or not, I've never made it. So, I'll chalk this up to learning.

                      How is this recipe?

                      1/4 cup butter (1/2 stick)
                      4 medium yellow onions (about 3 pounds), sliced
                      1 tbsp sugar
                      3/4 tsp salt
                      1/4 tsp black pepper
                      1/4 cup dry white wine or sherry
                      8 cups beef broth
                      8-16 slices French bread
                      1 cup shredded Gruyère or Swiss cheese

                      Press Sauté; melt butter in Instant Pot®. Add onions; cook 15 minutes, stirring occasionally. Add sugar, salt and pepper; cook and stir 5 to 7 minutes or until onions are golden brown. Add wine; cook and stir 1 minute or until evaporated. Stir in broth; mix well.

                      Secure lid and move pressure release valve to Sealing position. Press Manual or Pressure Cook; cook at high pressure 5 minutes.
                      When cooking is complete, press Cancel and use quick release.

                      Preheat broiler.

                      Ladle soup into individual ovenproof bowls; top with 1 or 2 slices bread and about 2 tablespoons cheese. Place bowls on large baking sheet. Broil 1 to 2 minutes or until bread is toasted and cheese is melted and browned.

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                      Klaus
                      wrote on 2 Jan 2022, 15:57 last edited by Klaus 1 Feb 2022, 15:58
                      #13

                      How is this recipe?

                      1/4 cup butter (1/2 stick)
                      4 medium yellow onions (about 3 pounds), sliced
                      1 tbsp sugar
                      3/4 tsp salt
                      1/4 tsp black pepper
                      1/4 cup dry white wine or sherry
                      8 cups beef broth
                      8-16 slices French bread
                      1 cup shredded Gruyère or Swiss cheese

                      Press Sauté; melt butter in Instant Pot®. Add onions; cook 15 minutes, stirring occasionally. Add sugar, salt and pepper; cook and stir 5 to 7 minutes or until onions are golden brown. Add wine; cook and stir 1 minute or until evaporated. Stir in broth; mix well.

                      Secure lid and move pressure release valve to Sealing position. Press Manual or Pressure Cook; cook at high pressure 5 minutes.
                      When cooking is complete, press Cancel and use quick release.

                      Preheat broiler.

                      Ladle soup into individual ovenproof bowls; top with 1 or 2 slices bread and about 2 tablespoons cheese. Place bowls on large baking sheet. Broil 1 to 2 minutes or until bread is toasted and cheese is melted and browned.

                      Sounds about right. The ingredient list looks good. I'm a little confused by the "4 onions (3 pounds)" ingredient. 3 pounds sounds good, but that must be huge onions, then. With normal onions, 3 pounds would be more like 20 onions, I guess.

                      I'm not sure what the pressure cooking is for, but I guess it won't hurt much either.

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 2 Jan 2022, 17:07 last edited by
                        #14

                        We get big onions here, between the size of a baseball and a softball.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

                        K 1 Reply Last reply 2 Jan 2022, 18:46
                        • M Mik
                          2 Jan 2022, 17:07

                          We get big onions here, between the size of a baseball and a softball.

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                          Klaus
                          wrote on 2 Jan 2022, 18:46 last edited by
                          #15

                          @mik said in Looking for a gouda gruyere alternative:

                          We get big onions here, between the size of a baseball and a softball.

                          I bet even just two of them weigh multiple pounds.

                          cb30dea0-bde3-460f-8359-0430d51b390b-image.png

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                          • K Klaus
                            2 Jan 2022, 18:46

                            @mik said in Looking for a gouda gruyere alternative:

                            We get big onions here, between the size of a baseball and a softball.

                            I bet even just two of them weigh multiple pounds.

                            cb30dea0-bde3-460f-8359-0430d51b390b-image.png

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                            George K
                            wrote on 2 Jan 2022, 21:49 last edited by
                            #16

                            @klaus we're talking onions here, not melons.

                            Please try to keep up.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                            K 1 Reply Last reply 2 Jan 2022, 23:16
                            • G George K
                              2 Jan 2022, 21:49

                              @klaus we're talking onions here, not melons.

                              Please try to keep up.

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                              Klaus
                              wrote on 2 Jan 2022, 23:16 last edited by
                              #17

                              @george-k said in Looking for a gouda gruyere alternative:

                              @klaus we're talking onions here, not melons.

                              Please try to keep up.

                              I thought every vaguely ball-like fruit or vegetable works as a name for female breasts, and every vaguely elongated one works for penis in the English language?

                              Educate me on this important matter!

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 2 Jan 2022, 23:20 last edited by
                                #18

                                I will but I’m too busy waxing my eggplant before dinner.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                • J jon-nyc
                                  2 Jan 2022, 23:20

                                  I will but I’m too busy waxing my eggplant before dinner.

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on 3 Jan 2022, 00:27 last edited by
                                  #19

                                  @jon-nyc said in Looking for a gouda gruyere alternative:

                                  I will but I’m too busy waxing my eggplant jalapeño before dinner.

                                  FIFY

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • M Mik
                                    3 Jan 2022, 00:27

                                    @jon-nyc said in Looking for a gouda gruyere alternative:

                                    I will but I’m too busy waxing my eggplant jalapeño before dinner.

                                    FIFY

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 3 Jan 2022, 00:28 last edited by
                                    #20

                                    @mik said in Looking for a gouda gruyere alternative:

                                    @jon-nyc said in Looking for a gouda gruyere alternative:

                                    I will but I’m too busy waxing my eggplant jalapeño before dinner.

                                    FIFY

                                    Yah...

                                    Jalapeños are MUCH smaller than eggplants.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      bachophile
                                      wrote on 3 Jan 2022, 10:34 last edited by
                                      #21

                                      believe it or not, of course there is an internet site on Gruyere substitutes

                                      https://food52.com/blog/26619-best-gruyere-cheese-substitutes#:~:text=What Are the Best Gruyère,Jarlsberg%2C Emmental%2C or Fontina.

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 3 Jan 2022, 12:19 last edited by
                                        #22

                                        There's a website for most anything now. I found one yesterday on why mayonnaise does not need to be refrigerated.

                                        But I will still refrigerate mine, thank you.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 3 Jan 2022, 12:20 last edited by
                                          #23

                                          I’ve been a fan of Food52 for years.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

                                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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