Extending COVID Unemployment Benefits, this time by GOP-led states
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… Workers who quit or are fired for cause — including for defying company policy — are generally ineligible for jobless benefits. But Arkansas, Florida, Iowa, Kansas and Tennessee have carved out exceptions for those who won’t submit to the multi-shot coronavirus vaccine regimens that many companies now require. Similar ideas have been floated in Wyoming, Wisconsin and Missouri. …
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Good.
These people are not losing their jobs because they are unwilling to work. They are losing their jobs because of Joe Biden.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@mik said in Extending COVID Unemployment Benefits, this time by GOP-led states:
Seems a reasonable response to government overreach.
Technically it would be private business overreach due to them being strong-armed by the Biden Administration.
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Good.
These people are not losing their jobs because they are unwilling to work. They are losing their jobs because of Joe Biden.
@jolly said in Extending COVID Unemployment Benefits, this time by GOP-led states:
These people are not losing their jobs because they are unwilling to work.
Hmm, I disagree a bit. They are unwilling to follow the requirements of the job description. The government has certain standards required in many industries. (To me), this isn't a whole lot different.
As part of living in civilized society, there are always things we may not want to do, but have to do if we want to do certain things (drug testing before getting a job, wearing a shirt/shoes into a store to get served, not smoking in a public restaurant, wearing a hair net if working in certain food industries, having to go through a background check for certain jobs, etc.
To me, it seems extemely weird that in certain areas, people who do not want to get a vaccine are being held up as heroes of some sort. I dont get it.
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@jolly said in Extending COVID Unemployment Benefits, this time by GOP-led states:
These people are not losing their jobs because they are unwilling to work.
Hmm, I disagree a bit. They are unwilling to follow the requirements of the job description. The government has certain standards required in many industries. (To me), this isn't a whole lot different.
As part of living in civilized society, there are always things we may not want to do, but have to do if we want to do certain things (drug testing before getting a job, wearing a shirt/shoes into a store to get served, not smoking in a public restaurant, wearing a hair net if working in certain food industries, having to go through a background check for certain jobs, etc.
To me, it seems extemely weird that in certain areas, people who do not want to get a vaccine are being held up as heroes of some sort. I dont get it.
@taiwan_girl said in Extending COVID Unemployment Benefits, this time by GOP-led states:
@jolly said in Extending COVID Unemployment Benefits, this time by GOP-led states:
These people are not losing their jobs because they are unwilling to work.
Hmm, I disagree a bit. They are unwilling to follow the requirements of the job description. The government has certain standards required in many industries. (To me), this isn't a whole lot different.
Not at all. There were conditions of employment that were set when the employee took the job. The employers are now changing those conditions of employment mid-stream. The employee chooses not to go along with the new standards of employment so is let go. This is a textbook example of why unemployment insurance exists. Now I don’t think that it should be continually extended like we’ve seen over the last two years…
The Brad
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@taiwan_girl said in Extending COVID Unemployment Benefits, this time by GOP-led states:
@jolly said in Extending COVID Unemployment Benefits, this time by GOP-led states:
These people are not losing their jobs because they are unwilling to work.
Hmm, I disagree a bit. They are unwilling to follow the requirements of the job description. The government has certain standards required in many industries. (To me), this isn't a whole lot different.
Not at all. There were conditions of employment that were set when the employee took the job. The employers are now changing those conditions of employment mid-stream. The employee chooses not to go along with the new standards of employment so is let go. This is a textbook example of why unemployment insurance exists. Now I don’t think that it should be continually extended like we’ve seen over the last two years…
@lufins-dad said in Extending COVID Unemployment Benefits, this time by GOP-led states:
The employers are now changing those conditions of employment mid-stream
That happens all the time in businesses. Probably 50 years ago, it was okay to smoke in your office. At some point the company ruled you could not smoke in the office. If you continued to do so, what do you think would happen?
Company standards are constantly evolving. I am sure in piano manufacturing factories, safety standards have changed quite a bit over the past 50 years. For example (and I am guessing), when cutting wood, they require you to have and wear safety glasses. Dont want to wear them? Probably need to find a new job.
I have seen it when I have visited different factories. I have seen requirement change from the organizations and ministries I have been associated with.
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Safety glasses = mRNA vaccines?
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@jolly Not at all, but there are regulations all the time.
Go to public school? Get a vaccines.
Join the military? Get vaccines.What I dont understand is why people are so SPECIFICALLY against this regulation?
Is it because:
- It is something we (generic we) are being forced to do?
That, to me, makes absolutely no sense, as we always have to do things we may not like. Vaccine "mandates" are not new. They have been around for centuries - smallpox, polio, whooping cough, MMR, etc etc. George Washington even required a smallpox "vaccine" for troops 240 years ago.
- Is it because they are afraid of the vaccine?
This makes a bit more sense, but still not much. Alot of people seem to think that COVID started in Dec 2019 and it was only then that research began. Absolutely not!! As I mentioned in another thread, I have a friend who is a post doc at USC in LA, California, and they have had a lab dedicated to corona viruses and vaccines for probably 15 years or more. Research has been going on in this area for a long time. The reason that things moved so fast at the end was simply because roadblocks mainly related to money removed.
Example timeline of product development
- Guy gets idea. Applies for funding.
- Waits.
- Gets some money
- Does basic lab research. Results are successful. Applies for more money
- Waits
- Gets some money
- Does small pilot plant experiment. Results are successful. Applies for more money and support.
- Waits.
- Oops. Company is bought out. New CEO, etc. Funding is withdrawn. Back to step 4
etc etc
What Operation Warp Speed did was remove the money steps and the waiting steps. There was not any shortcuts when it came to research, development and testing!!
I believe that the US FDA is probably the "gold standard" for drug regulation and approval. I am surprised that people disagree with this or think otherwise.
People eat stuff all the time where they have no idea what was background, but yet they happily munch away on stuff that contains so many chemicals and other things that probably had less "scrutiny" than these vaccines.
- Is it because there are "scientists" who say the vaccine is bad?
Again, this makes zero sense. Are there people out there who way this? Yes. But I am sure I could show articles from "scientists" who say that the earth is flat, the sun revolves around the earth, dinosaurs and humans lived together.
If there are 100 research studies and one of them says vaccines are bad, I would be more willing to trust the 99 other independent articles than the 1 contrary one.
- Or, is it because it has become political?
To me, this seems to be the most probable answer. Agreeing to vaccines somehow seems to show support for President Biden. But if you are against them, then you are somehow anti Biden.
Anyway, I will get off the soapbox. LOL
