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    Axtremus
    wrote on 20 Dec 2021, 17:55 last edited by
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    Manchin blames it on the help.
    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/manchin-says-white-house-staff-drove-him-reject-bidens-social-policy-plan-2021-12-20/

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      20 Dec 2021, 17:55

      Manchin blames it on the help.
      https://www.reuters.com/world/us/manchin-says-white-house-staff-drove-him-reject-bidens-social-policy-plan-2021-12-20/

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      Horace
      wrote on 20 Dec 2021, 18:18 last edited by
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      @axtremus said in Manchin declares opposition against social and climate change spending bill:

      Manchin blames it on the help.
      https://www.reuters.com/world/us/manchin-says-white-house-staff-drove-him-reject-bidens-social-policy-plan-2021-12-20/

      Ax how do you like that bill? Do you wish it would pass? I don't.

      Education is extremely important.

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        Larry
        wrote on 20 Dec 2021, 19:26 last edited by
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        Ax, you proud of Biden yet?

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          George K
          wrote on 20 Dec 2021, 19:55 last edited by
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          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            George K
            wrote on 21 Dec 2021, 20:04 last edited by
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            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Copper
              wrote on 21 Dec 2021, 20:48 last edited by
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              “Hate Has No Home Here”

              I saw those signs all over the place in Boston a couple years ago.

              There were none around here (rural Virginia).

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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on 21 Dec 2021, 20:53 last edited by
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                They are still assuming Sinema was a yes vote.

                The Brad

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                  George K
                  wrote on 23 Dec 2021, 14:02 last edited by
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                  Interesting: https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/us-literacy-rates-by-state

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    21 Dec 2021, 20:48

                    “Hate Has No Home Here”

                    I saw those signs all over the place in Boston a couple years ago.

                    There were none around here (rural Virginia).

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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on 23 Dec 2021, 14:53 last edited by
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                    @copper said in Manchin declares opposition against social and climate change spending bill:

                    “Hate Has No Home Here”

                    I saw those signs all over the place in Boston a couple years ago.

                    There were none around here (rural Virginia).

                    Karla wants to make a sign that says “Welcome, Hate! Have a seat and make yourself at home!”

                    The Brad

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                    • L LuFins Dad
                      23 Dec 2021, 14:53

                      @copper said in Manchin declares opposition against social and climate change spending bill:

                      “Hate Has No Home Here”

                      I saw those signs all over the place in Boston a couple years ago.

                      There were none around here (rural Virginia).

                      Karla wants to make a sign that says “Welcome, Hate! Have a seat and make yourself at home!”

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                      Axtremus
                      wrote on 23 Dec 2021, 15:02 last edited by
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                      @lufins-dad said in Manchin declares opposition against social and climate change spending bill:

                      Karla wants to make a sign that says “Welcome, Hate! Have a seat and make yourself at home!”

                      Please post pictures.

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 23 Dec 2021, 15:19 last edited by
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                        Louisiana would have a much higher literacy rate, but a lot of our best and brightest move out of state.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          23 Dec 2021, 15:19

                          Louisiana would have a much higher literacy rate, but a lot of our best and brightest move out of state.

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                          Axtremus
                          wrote on 23 Dec 2021, 17:50 last edited by
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                          @jolly said in Manchin declares opposition against social and climate change spending bill:

                          Louisiana ... a lot of our best and brightest move out of state.

                          Why, and where to?

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                            23 Dec 2021, 17:50

                            @jolly said in Manchin declares opposition against social and climate change spending bill:

                            Louisiana ... a lot of our best and brightest move out of state.

                            Why, and where to?

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 23 Dec 2021, 18:09 last edited by
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                            @axtremus said in Manchin declares opposition against social and climate change spending bill:

                            @jolly said in Manchin declares opposition against social and climate change spending bill:

                            Louisiana ... a lot of our best and brightest move out of state.

                            Why, and where to?

                            Been a lot of kids heading to Austin, including my son and his wife.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              23 Dec 2021, 18:09

                              @axtremus said in Manchin declares opposition against social and climate change spending bill:

                              @jolly said in Manchin declares opposition against social and climate change spending bill:

                              Louisiana ... a lot of our best and brightest move out of state.

                              Why, and where to?

                              Been a lot of kids heading to Austin, including my son and his wife.

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                              Axtremus
                              wrote on 23 Dec 2021, 20:25 last edited by
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                              @jolly said in Manchin declares opposition against social and climate change spending bill:

                              @axtremus said in Manchin declares opposition against social and climate change spending bill:

                              @jolly said in Manchin declares opposition against social and climate change spending bill:

                              Louisiana ... a lot of our best and brightest move out of state.

                              Why, and where to?

                              Been a lot of kids heading to Austin, including my son and his wife.

                              Why did they choose to leave Louisiana?
                              Why did they choose to relocate to Austin (instead of any other town/state)?

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                                Renauda
                                wrote on 23 Dec 2021, 22:30 last edited by Renauda
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                                The 25% subsidy for US built electric cars and components contained in the bill would have caused a trade war with Canada and Mexico. It was contrary to the USMCAN trade Treaty as well as the Auto Pact between Canada and the USA. It would as well likely run afoul of the WTO if a grievance were brought forward.

                                Manchin did the US a big favour by quashing the bill. It was a shit bill from square one.

                                Elbows up!

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on 23 Dec 2021, 22:39 last edited by
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                                  It was nothing but buying votes promising payoffs. I surely would like to see these issues addressed separately rather than huge, unreadable bills.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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