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Manchin declares opposition against social and climate change spending bill

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  • LuFins DadL Offline
    LuFins DadL Offline
    LuFins Dad
    wrote on last edited by
    #4

    For that matter, has Sinema ever officially gotten on board? I don’t think I saw anything indicating that she had been won over…

    The Brad

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    • MikM Away
      MikM Away
      Mik
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      #5

      No so far its 52.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • MikM Away
        MikM Away
        Mik
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        #6

        Thank God.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • MikM Mik

          No so far its 52.

          LuFins DadL Offline
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          LuFins Dad
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          #7

          @mik said in Manchin declares opposition against social and climate change spending bill:

          No so far its 52.

          Thanks, I thought Sinema had caved and I missed it.

          The Brad

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
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            #8

            And the White House has a meltdown.

            And Sanders (who obviously doesn't understand the concept of "majority").

            And Rep Omar (D-Somalia)

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            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
              wrote on last edited by
              #9

              Edited to add my (dupe) posts to Ax's original thread. My PWNED thread is deleted.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG Offline
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                George K
                wrote on last edited by
                #10

                So, should I copy the White House response to the "Biden's Lies" thread?

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • AxtremusA Offline
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                  Axtremus
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                  #11

                  White House's response:

                  https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/12/19/statement-from-press-secretary-jen-psaki-4/

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                  • AxtremusA Axtremus

                    White House's response:

                    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/12/19/statement-from-press-secretary-jen-psaki-4/

                    George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    #12

                    @axtremus PWNED above....

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      George K
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #13

                      If it weren't for the double standard....

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                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • LuFins DadL Offline
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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #14

                        I wonder if they even realize that the Pre-K Childcare is the biggest nightmare in this clusterfuck. Everybody has had their eyes opened over the last two years to what the schools have done to our kids and now they want even earlier access? Hell no…

                        The Brad

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                        • George KG Offline
                          George KG Offline
                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #15

                          https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-white-house-art-of-furious-persuasion-psaki-manchin-build-back-better-no-statement-11639947001

                          The White House Art of Furious Persuasion

                          Jen Psaki all but calls Joe Manchin a liar for opposing Biden’s bill.

                          By Dec. 19, 2021 5:59 pm ET

                          The progressive whiz kids who run President Biden’s White House don’t have much sense of self-restraint—or common political sense. Their response on Sunday to Sen. Joe Manchin’s opposition to Build Back Better was to accuse him of bad faith while saying they’ll beat him up until he changes his mind.

                          Press secretary Jen Psaki issued a blistering statement saying Mr. Manchin’s comments on Fox News Sunday “are at odds with his discussions this week with the President, with White House staff, and with his own public utterances.” We can’t speak for his private White House talks, but Mr. Manchin’s public comments have been consistent for months. On Sunday he finally said no.

                          Ms. Psaki charged ahead in furious disregard: “Just as Senator Manchin reversed his position on Build Back Better this morning, we will continue to press him to see if he will reverse his position yet again, to honor his prior commitments and be true to his word.”

                          Maybe Mr. Biden’s masters of the universe know something about the art of persuasion that we don’t. But we doubt calling a Senator a liar is going to bring him around.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • AxtremusA Offline
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                            Axtremus
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                            #16

                            Manchin blames it on the help.
                            https://www.reuters.com/world/us/manchin-says-white-house-staff-drove-him-reject-bidens-social-policy-plan-2021-12-20/

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                            • AxtremusA Axtremus

                              Manchin blames it on the help.
                              https://www.reuters.com/world/us/manchin-says-white-house-staff-drove-him-reject-bidens-social-policy-plan-2021-12-20/

                              HoraceH Offline
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                              Horace
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #17

                              @axtremus said in Manchin declares opposition against social and climate change spending bill:

                              Manchin blames it on the help.
                              https://www.reuters.com/world/us/manchin-says-white-house-staff-drove-him-reject-bidens-social-policy-plan-2021-12-20/

                              Ax how do you like that bill? Do you wish it would pass? I don't.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • LarryL Offline
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                                Larry
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                                Ax, you proud of Biden yet?

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                                • George KG Offline
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                                  George K
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                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #20

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Copper
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #21

                                      “Hate Has No Home Here”

                                      I saw those signs all over the place in Boston a couple years ago.

                                      There were none around here (rural Virginia).

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                                      • LuFins DadL Offline
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                                        LuFins Dad
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #22

                                        They are still assuming Sinema was a yes vote.

                                        The Brad

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                                        • George KG Offline
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                                          George K
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                                          #23

                                          Interesting: https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/us-literacy-rates-by-state

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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