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    Copper
    wrote on 17 Dec 2021, 20:47 last edited by
    #3

    I am talking about a defeat that will eliminate our freedom and permanently subordinate America to Communist China and its demands for absolute control and obedience.

    permanently

    That is a long time

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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on 17 Dec 2021, 20:54 last edited by Doctor Phibes
      #4

      I’m sure the the threat is real, but I also can’t help cynically wondering if this is Newt starting up his next failed election campaign.

      I was only joking

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        Mik
        wrote on 17 Dec 2021, 21:06 last edited by
        #5

        It's a better issue on a national level than wokeness.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • M Mik
          17 Dec 2021, 21:06

          It's a better issue on a national level than wokeness.

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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on 17 Dec 2021, 21:37 last edited by Doctor Phibes
          #6

          @mik said in A warning from Newt:

          It's a better issue on a national level than wokeness.

          It is, but as always with Romney you’re left wondering what he really believes, if anything.

          Now don’t get me wrong he did a nice job as Massachusetts governor. I kind think maybe he should have stuck with that job.

          I was only joking

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            Mik
            wrote on 17 Dec 2021, 21:48 last edited by
            #7

            Umm...Newt was never MA guv. You in your cups already? 😆

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              xenon
              wrote on 17 Dec 2021, 21:55 last edited by xenon
              #8

              I just don't see how the US and China can fight directly without it turning into doomsday.

              How do you have a gentleman's war in this day and age.

              When's the last time nuclear armed solders fired a shot at each other?

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              • M Mik
                17 Dec 2021, 21:48

                Umm...Newt was never MA guv. You in your cups already? 😆

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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on 17 Dec 2021, 21:55 last edited by Doctor Phibes
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                @mik said in A warning from Newt:

                Umm...Newt was never MA guv. You in your cups already? 😆

                Bloody hell, look at me, confusing Gingrich and Romney. I think it's because they've both got silly first names 😆

                I was actually reading it, thinking 'This doesn't sound like Romney at all' 😆

                I'm a moron, clearly.

                I was only joking

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                • X xenon
                  17 Dec 2021, 21:55

                  I just don't see how the US and China can fight directly without it turning into doomsday.

                  How do you have a gentleman's war in this day and age.

                  When's the last time nuclear armed solders fired a shot at each other?

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                  Copper
                  wrote on 17 Dec 2021, 22:15 last edited by Copper
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                  @xenon said in A warning from Newt:

                  When's the last time nuclear armed solders fired a shot at each other?

                  August 9, 1945

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                  • C Copper
                    17 Dec 2021, 22:15

                    @xenon said in A warning from Newt:

                    When's the last time nuclear armed solders fired a shot at each other?

                    August 9, 1945

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                    xenon
                    wrote on 17 Dec 2021, 23:02 last edited by xenon
                    #11

                    @copper said in A warning from Newt:

                    @xenon said in A warning from Newt:

                    When's the last time nuclear armed solders fired a shot at each other?

                    August 9, 1945

                    Only one of those sides were nuclear armed.

                    In 50 years of belligerent expansion by the Soviets, we never directly fought with them.

                    Why would we fight with China?

                    But, I did answer my own question after asking it. India and China have minor border skirmishes here and there. Which is kinda insane.

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                      xenon
                      wrote on 17 Dec 2021, 23:10 last edited by xenon
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                      Also which war would we most want China / U.S. to resemble in terms of cost benefit?

                      Past performance does not guarantee future results, but the biggies have been:
                      -Civil War
                      -WW1
                      -WW2
                      -Korea
                      -Vietnam
                      -Middle East wars

                      Pick your poison.

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                        17 Dec 2021, 23:02

                        @copper said in A warning from Newt:

                        @xenon said in A warning from Newt:

                        When's the last time nuclear armed solders fired a shot at each other?

                        August 9, 1945

                        Only one of those sides were nuclear armed.

                        In 50 years of belligerent expansion by the Soviets, we never directly fought with them.

                        Why would we fight with China?

                        But, I did answer my own question after asking it. India and China have minor border skirmishes here and there. Which is kinda insane.

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on 17 Dec 2021, 23:11 last edited by
                        #13

                        @xenon said in A warning from Newt:

                        @copper said in A warning from Newt:

                        @xenon said in A warning from Newt:

                        When's the last time nuclear armed solders fired a shot at each other?

                        August 9, 1945

                        Only one of those sides were nuclear armed.

                        In 50 years of belligerent expansion by the Soviets, we never directly fought with them.

                        Why would we fight with China?

                        But, I did answer my own question after asking it. India and China have minor border skirmishes here and there. Which is kinda insane.

                        India and Pakistan is even more scary

                        I was only joking

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                        • X xenon
                          17 Dec 2021, 23:02

                          @copper said in A warning from Newt:

                          @xenon said in A warning from Newt:

                          When's the last time nuclear armed solders fired a shot at each other?

                          August 9, 1945

                          Only one of those sides were nuclear armed.

                          In 50 years of belligerent expansion by the Soviets, we never directly fought with them.

                          Why would we fight with China?

                          But, I did answer my own question after asking it. India and China have minor border skirmishes here and there. Which is kinda insane.

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 18 Dec 2021, 00:54 last edited by Jolly
                          #14

                          @xenon said in A warning from Newt:

                          @copper said in A warning from Newt:

                          @xenon said in A warning from Newt:

                          When's the last time nuclear armed solders fired a shot at each other?

                          August 9, 1945

                          Only one of those sides were nuclear armed.

                          In 50 years of belligerent expansion by the Soviets, we never directly fought with them.

                          Why would we fight with China?

                          But, I did answer my own question after asking it. India and China have minor border skirmishes here and there. Which is kinda insane.

                          We came within a gnat's ass of eradicating the Soviet Union from the face of the earth. Nuclear-armed bombers were already in route to their destinations, the second wave of bombers was already fueled, armed and sitting on the tarmac. The silos were dialed in, awaiting final launch codes. The situation was Defcon 2 for the USAF. All naval and army assets were at Defcon 3.

                          BTW, the U.S. was not just going to nuke the U.S.S.R. China was going to be a smoking, radioactive Hell, before the day was over. Every communist country on the face of the earth capable of harming America had at least one nuke headed their way. The U.S. had determined that whatever remained of America would not be attacked by any remnant of any communist country capable of hurting us.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • J Jolly
                            18 Dec 2021, 00:54

                            @xenon said in A warning from Newt:

                            @copper said in A warning from Newt:

                            @xenon said in A warning from Newt:

                            When's the last time nuclear armed solders fired a shot at each other?

                            August 9, 1945

                            Only one of those sides were nuclear armed.

                            In 50 years of belligerent expansion by the Soviets, we never directly fought with them.

                            Why would we fight with China?

                            But, I did answer my own question after asking it. India and China have minor border skirmishes here and there. Which is kinda insane.

                            We came within a gnat's ass of eradicating the Soviet Union from the face of the earth. Nuclear-armed bombers were already in route to their destinations, the second wave of bombers was already fueled, armed and sitting on the tarmac. The silos were dialed in, awaiting final launch codes. The situation was Defcon 2 for the USAF. All naval and army assets were at Defcon 3.

                            BTW, the U.S. was not just going to nuke the U.S.S.R. China was going to be a smoking, radioactive Hell, before the day was over. Every communist country on the face of the earth capable of harming America had at least one nuke headed their way. The U.S. had determined that whatever remained of America would not be attacked by any remnant of any communist country capable of hurting us.

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                            xenon
                            wrote on 18 Dec 2021, 01:14 last edited by
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                            @jolly said in A warning from Newt:

                            @xenon said in A warning from Newt:

                            @copper said in A warning from Newt:

                            @xenon said in A warning from Newt:

                            When's the last time nuclear armed solders fired a shot at each other?

                            August 9, 1945

                            Only one of those sides were nuclear armed.

                            In 50 years of belligerent expansion by the Soviets, we never directly fought with them.

                            Why would we fight with China?

                            But, I did answer my own question after asking it. India and China have minor border skirmishes here and there. Which is kinda insane.

                            We came within a gnat's ass of eradicating the Soviet Union from the face of the earth. Nuclear-armed bombers were already in route to their destinations, the second wave of bombers was already fueled, armed and sitting on the tarmac. The silos were dialed in, awaiting final launch codes. The situation was Defcon 2 for the USAF. All naval and army assets were at Defcon 3.

                            BTW, the U.S. was not just going to nuke the U.S.S.R. China was going to be a smoking, radioactive Hell, before the day was over. Every communist country on the face of the earth capable of harming America had at least one nuke headed their way. The U.S. had determined that whatever remained of America would not be attacked by any remnant of any communist country capable of hurting us.

                            Right - maybe that insanity should teach us that avoiding war is the best investment. What a calamity that would have been.

                            What’s so bad in our world today that we would even entertain that outcome as a realistic possibility?

                            If we think that’s even a remote possibility - shouldn’t we be doing everything in our power to build better relations?

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                              taiwan_girl
                              wrote on 19 Dec 2021, 03:35 last edited by
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                              that is why it is so important that the US look outward rather than inward.

                              Very very important to engage with other countries at times like this. Isolationism would be the wrong response at a time like this.

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