Smoke 'em if you got 'em
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wrote on 10 Dec 2021, 12:54 last edited by
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-59589775
New Zealand will ban the sale of tobacco to its next generation, in a bid to eventually phase out smoking.
Anyone born after 2008 will not be able to buy cigarettes or tobacco products in their lifetime, under a law expected to be enacted next year.
"We want to make sure young people never start smoking," Health Minister Dr Ayesha Verall said.
The move is part of a sweeping crackdown on smoking announced by New Zealand's health ministry on Thursday.
Doctors and other health experts in the country have welcomed the "world-leading" reforms, which will reduce access to tobacco and restrict nicotine levels in cigarettes.
"It will help people quit or switch to less harmful products, and make it much less likely that young people get addicted to nicotine," said Prof Janet Hook from the University of Otago.
The crackdown has been met with mixed reactions.
"I reckon it's a good move, really," one man told Reuters news agency. "Because right now there's a lot of young kids walking around with smokes in their mouth. Public are asking how they're getting these smokes.
"And it's also good for myself too because I can save more money."
However, others have warned that the move may create a black market for tobacco - something the health ministry's official impact statement does acknowledge, noting "customs will need more resource to enforce border control". -
wrote on 10 Dec 2021, 13:01 last edited by
Brilliant... 'cause the war on weed worked out so well...
O wait.
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wrote on 10 Dec 2021, 14:45 last edited by Copper 12 Oct 2021, 14:45
Too bad, I loved smoking
I'm looking forward to taking it back up once I'm old enough so it doesn't matter
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Too bad, I loved smoking
I'm looking forward to taking it back up once I'm old enough so it doesn't matter
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wrote on 10 Dec 2021, 16:04 last edited by
There's nothing good about cigarettes. No upside at all.
Fucking things, I still think about them. From time to time I dream that I've started again, and I wake up with such a massive sense of relief.
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There's nothing good about cigarettes. No upside at all.
Fucking things, I still think about them. From time to time I dream that I've started again, and I wake up with such a massive sense of relief.
wrote on 10 Dec 2021, 16:16 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
There's nothing good about cigarettes. No upside at all.
Helping to keep Social Security solvent.
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@doctor-phibes said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
There's nothing good about cigarettes. No upside at all.
Helping to keep Social Security solvent.
wrote on 10 Dec 2021, 20:08 last edited by@improviso said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
@doctor-phibes said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
There's nothing good about cigarettes. No upside at all.
Helping to keep Social Security solvent.
We could solve that problem by hunting retirees for sport. You can even have free cigarettes - it would help us find you in the dark.
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wrote on 10 Dec 2021, 20:19 last edited by
I doubt you would enjoy it. i have lit up a few since I quit in 1976. They tasted just as godawful as the first ones in 8th grade.
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I doubt you would enjoy it. i have lit up a few since I quit in 1976. They tasted just as godawful as the first ones in 8th grade.
wrote on 10 Dec 2021, 20:23 last edited by Doctor Phibes 12 Oct 2021, 20:23@mik said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
They tasted just as godawful as the first ones in 8th grade.
They never tasted awful to me. I think that might have been my problem. The smell of fresh tobacco smoke still drives me nuts.
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.NOT. THAT. I'M. FREAKING. BITTER. OR. ANYTHING.
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wrote on 10 Dec 2021, 20:42 last edited by
I enjoy the buzz when I have my once-every-few-years cigarette.
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wrote on 10 Dec 2021, 20:53 last edited by Doctor Phibes 12 Oct 2021, 20:57
@horace said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
I enjoy the buzz when I have my once-every-few-years cigarette.
Don't rub it in.
It wasn't the buzz they gave me that was the problem, since there really wasn't one. It was the other kind buzz that kicked in if I didn't smoke one for a few hours.
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wrote on 10 Dec 2021, 20:57 last edited by
Once or twice a year I'll sit outside with a nice adult beverage and a decent cigar. I thoroughly enjoy the taste and the slight nicotine buzz. Then I realize I smell like shit and shower and brush my teeth with lysol and a brillo pad.
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Once or twice a year I'll sit outside with a nice adult beverage and a decent cigar. I thoroughly enjoy the taste and the slight nicotine buzz. Then I realize I smell like shit and shower and brush my teeth with lysol and a brillo pad.
wrote on 10 Dec 2021, 21:01 last edited by@lufins-dad said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
Once or twice a year I'll sit outside with a nice adult beverage and a decent cigar. I thoroughly enjoy the taste and the slight nicotine buzz. Then I realize I smell like shit and shower and brush my teeth with lysol and a brillo pad.
I tried to smoke cigars countless times. After about half the cigar, my tongue felt like a backhoe drove over it.
And yeah, they're smelly.
I did enjoy a pipe, however, despite all the fussiness of it.
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I doubt you would enjoy it. i have lit up a few since I quit in 1976. They tasted just as godawful as the first ones in 8th grade.
wrote on 10 Dec 2021, 22:30 last edited by Copper 12 Oct 2021, 22:30@mik said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
the first ones in 8th grade.
2nd grade for me.
In secret with 2 other guys, nobody ever knew, I remember it well.
Isn't that insane?
That was a different world.
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@lufins-dad said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
Once or twice a year I'll sit outside with a nice adult beverage and a decent cigar. I thoroughly enjoy the taste and the slight nicotine buzz. Then I realize I smell like shit and shower and brush my teeth with lysol and a brillo pad.
I tried to smoke cigars countless times. After about half the cigar, my tongue felt like a backhoe drove over it.
And yeah, they're smelly.
I did enjoy a pipe, however, despite all the fussiness of it.
wrote on 11 Dec 2021, 01:32 last edited by@george-k said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
@lufins-dad said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
Once or twice a year I'll sit outside with a nice adult beverage and a decent cigar. I thoroughly enjoy the taste and the slight nicotine buzz. Then I realize I smell like shit and shower and brush my teeth with lysol and a brillo pad.
I tried to smoke cigars countless times. After about half the cigar, my tongue felt like a backhoe drove over it.
And yeah, they're smelly.
I did enjoy a pipe, however, despite all the fussiness of it.
One of my favorite pathologists smoked a pipe. He was lousy in a production oriented pathology section, but I would rather have him read my stuff than any other path I worked with. He was the quintessential educated, Old Money Southerner, down to the fact that he owned a plantation. Med school at Tulane, residency at Vanderbilt, which is where he taught until he took over the reigns of the farm.
You could tell when he had a tough set of slides to read, as out came an old briar pipe from his lab coat pocket and he'd reach in his desk for his tobacco pouch and lighter. Most of the time, he'd fire it up, take a puff or two, then lay it aside while he stuck his head back in his microscope. If it was particularly tough, he might have to repack and relight that old pipe two or three times. When you smelled the pipe - which always smelled like Borkum Riff - or saw the smoke wafting out of his office, you knew he was deep in thought.
He could be maddenly slow, but he was very rarely ever wrong...
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@george-k said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
@lufins-dad said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
Once or twice a year I'll sit outside with a nice adult beverage and a decent cigar. I thoroughly enjoy the taste and the slight nicotine buzz. Then I realize I smell like shit and shower and brush my teeth with lysol and a brillo pad.
I tried to smoke cigars countless times. After about half the cigar, my tongue felt like a backhoe drove over it.
And yeah, they're smelly.
I did enjoy a pipe, however, despite all the fussiness of it.
One of my favorite pathologists smoked a pipe. He was lousy in a production oriented pathology section, but I would rather have him read my stuff than any other path I worked with. He was the quintessential educated, Old Money Southerner, down to the fact that he owned a plantation. Med school at Tulane, residency at Vanderbilt, which is where he taught until he took over the reigns of the farm.
You could tell when he had a tough set of slides to read, as out came an old briar pipe from his lab coat pocket and he'd reach in his desk for his tobacco pouch and lighter. Most of the time, he'd fire it up, take a puff or two, then lay it aside while he stuck his head back in his microscope. If it was particularly tough, he might have to repack and relight that old pipe two or three times. When you smelled the pipe - which always smelled like Borkum Riff - or saw the smoke wafting out of his office, you knew he was deep in thought.
He could be maddenly slow, but he was very rarely ever wrong...
wrote on 11 Dec 2021, 01:53 last edited by@jolly said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
@george-k said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
@lufins-dad said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
Once or twice a year I'll sit outside with a nice adult beverage and a decent cigar. I thoroughly enjoy the taste and the slight nicotine buzz. Then I realize I smell like shit and shower and brush my teeth with lysol and a brillo pad.
I tried to smoke cigars countless times. After about half the cigar, my tongue felt like a backhoe drove over it.
And yeah, they're smelly.
I did enjoy a pipe, however, despite all the fussiness of it.
One of my favorite pathologists smoked a pipe. He was lousy in a production oriented pathology section, but I would rather have him read my stuff than any other path I worked with. He was the quintessential educated, Old Money Southerner, down to the fact that he owned a plantation. Med school at Tulane, residency at Vanderbilt, which is where he taught until he took over the reigns of the farm.
You could tell when he had a tough set of slides to read, as out came an old briar pipe from his lab coat pocket and he'd reach in his desk for his tobacco pouch and lighter. Most of the time, he'd fire it up, take a puff or two, then lay it aside while he stuck his head back in his microscope. If it was particularly tough, he might have to repack and relight that old pipe two or three times. When you smelled the pipe - which always smelled like Borkum Riff - or saw the smoke wafting out of his office, you knew he was deep in thought.
He could be maddenly slow, but he was very rarely ever wrong...
My dad smoked a pipe. At first glance, he was the quintessential mad scientist. Went to Cambridge, spoke with a stammer, wore a tweed sports jacket to work, and could easily get lost on the way to the shops.
He often took a long time to come to a decision, and he was rarely ever wrong, but in another way. He was possibly the most honest man I've ever known. Would always, always, always do what he believed to be right. I miss him a lot.
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wrote on 17 Dec 2021, 18:09 last edited by
Considering how well prohibition has worked out in the past, I'm really surprised the Kiwis are doing this.
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Considering how well prohibition has worked out in the past, I'm really surprised the Kiwis are doing this.
wrote on 17 Dec 2021, 20:39 last edited by@george-k said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
Considering how well prohibition has worked out in the past, I'm really surprised the Kiwis are doing this.
It’s not really the same tactic. They’re not banning it for older people, just people who’ve never had the opportunity.
Still, it could easily backfire
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@george-k said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
Considering how well prohibition has worked out in the past, I'm really surprised the Kiwis are doing this.
It’s not really the same tactic. They’re not banning it for older people, just people who’ve never had the opportunity.
Still, it could easily backfire
wrote on 17 Dec 2021, 20:41 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
It’s not really the same tactic. They’re not banning it for older people, just people who’ve never had the opportunity.
I totally understand the difference. But, in 20 years, when the "older" people are no longer around to smoke them, it will be precisely prohibition.