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  • MikM Offline
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    He’s a smart guy. Glad to see him in the race.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      As long as he's an elected Republican, I don't care if he has cloven hooves and horns on his head.

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      @jolly said in The Wizard of Oz:

      As long as he's an elected Republican, I don't care if he has cloven hooves and horns on his head.

      Republicans used to say that character matters. Now it‘s partisanship above character.

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      • AxtremusA Axtremus

        @jolly said in The Wizard of Oz:

        As long as he's an elected Republican, I don't care if he has cloven hooves and horns on his head.

        Republicans used to say that character matters. Now it‘s partisanship above character.

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        Aqua Letifer
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        @axtremus said in The Wizard of Oz:

        @jolly said in The Wizard of Oz:

        As long as he's an elected Republican, I don't care if he has cloven hooves and horns on his head.

        Republicans used to say that character matters. Now it‘s partisanship above character.

        I think the point is that character matters now more than ever.

        Please love yourself.

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        • AxtremusA Axtremus

          @jolly said in The Wizard of Oz:

          As long as he's an elected Republican, I don't care if he has cloven hooves and horns on his head.

          Republicans used to say that character matters. Now it‘s partisanship above character.

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          Jolly
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          #10

          @axtremus said in The Wizard of Oz:

          @jolly said in The Wizard of Oz:

          As long as he's an elected Republican, I don't care if he has cloven hooves and horns on his head.

          Republicans used to say that character matters. Now it‘s partisanship above character.

          Anything to stop the current erosion of rights, loss of freedom and on-going socialization of the country that are the goals of The Resident's trainwreck.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • HoraceH Horace

            Oprah sure can pick them. Who's worse, Dr Phil or Doctor Oz?

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            George K
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            @horace said in The Wizard of Oz:

            Oprah sure can pick them. Who's worse, Dr Phil or Doctor Oz?

            Dr. Phil is a fraud.

            Dr. Oz is a board-certified heart surgeon.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              @horace said in The Wizard of Oz:

              Oprah sure can pick them. Who's worse, Dr Phil or Doctor Oz?

              Dr. Phil is a fraud.

              Dr. Oz is a board-certified heart surgeon.

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              Horace
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              #12

              @george-k said in The Wizard of Oz:

              @horace said in The Wizard of Oz:

              Oprah sure can pick them. Who's worse, Dr Phil or Doctor Oz?

              Dr. Phil is a fraud.

              Dr. Oz is a board-certified heart surgeon.

              Actually I know nothing about Dr Oz, I was just making an assumption. Glad to hear he's not a fraud.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • HoraceH Horace

                @george-k said in The Wizard of Oz:

                @horace said in The Wizard of Oz:

                Oprah sure can pick them. Who's worse, Dr Phil or Doctor Oz?

                Dr. Phil is a fraud.

                Dr. Oz is a board-certified heart surgeon.

                Actually I know nothing about Dr Oz, I was just making an assumption. Glad to hear he's not a fraud.

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                George K
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                @horace said in The Wizard of Oz:

                Glad to hear he's not a fraud

                Well perhaps he's less of a fraud:

                He excelled during his residency at Columbia University, receiving the Blakemore research prize for outstanding surgery resident four times.[19] Oz helped develop numerous devices and procedures related to heart surgery, including the MitraClip and the left ventricular assist device (LVAD), and by 2015 held 11 patents related to heart surgery.

                In 2010, Oz joined Jeff Arnold as co-founder of Sharecare, Inc.

                Oz has been a professor at the Department of Surgery at Columbia University since 2001.[31] He also directs the Integrative Medicine Center at Columbia University,[32] which he cofounded as the Cardiac Complementary Care Center in 1994

                But...

                Oz has faced criticism due to his tendency to promote pseudoscience. He has been supportive of homeopathy,[75] and is a proponent of alternative medicine.[50] Popular Science[76] and The New Yorker[34] have published critical articles on Oz for giving "non-scientific" advice.[34]

                A 2014 study published in the British Medical Journal found that medical talk shows such as The Dr Oz Show and The Doctors often lack adequate information on the specific benefits or evidence of their claims. 40 episodes of each program from early 2013 were evaluated, determining that evidence supported 46 percent, contradicted 15 percent and was not found for 39 percent of the recommendations on The Dr Oz Show...

                Oz has been awarded the James Randi Educational Foundation's Pigasus Award from 2009 to 2012 for his promotion of energy therapies, support of faith healing, psychic communication with the dead and "quack medical practices, paranormal belief, and pseudoscience".

                For a while, I was getting a lot of spam on "anti-aging" which Oz was pushing with a guy named Mike Roizen. Roizen is an anesthesiologist who used to be at the University of Chicago, chairman. He came to my place back in 1984 (?) as a visiting professor. My encounter with him was not pleasant...

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • MikM Offline
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                  His name has also been used illicitly on products he never endorsed. The same thing happens to the Shark Tank folks. I would not be quick to lay these things on him.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • George KG George K

                    I'm sorry, I meant the Senator of Oz.

                    Dr. Mehmet Oz, the celebrity heart surgeon best known as the host of TV’s Dr. Oz Show after rocketing to fame on Oprah Winfrey’s show, announced Tuesday that he is running for Pennsylvania’s open U.S. Senate seat as a Republican.

                    Oz, 61, will bring his unrivaled name recognition and wealth to a wide-open race that is expected to among the nation’s most competitive and could determine control of the Senate in next year’s election.

                    Oz — a longtime New Jersey resident — enters a Republican field that is resetting with an influx of candidates and a new opportunity to appeal to voters loyal to former President Donald Trump, now that the candidate endorsed by Trump has just exited the race.

                    In a video message on social media, Oz casts himself as a sort of champion for people’s health, who “took on the medical establishment to argue against costly drugs and skyrocketing medical bills” and is prepared to fight a government that he said has mishandled the COVID-19 pandemic.

                    Jesus.

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                    🤔

                    Dr. Mehmet Oz, the celebrity heart surgeon best known as the host of TV’s Dr. Oz Show after rocketing to fame on Oprah Winfrey’s show, announced Tuesday that he is running for Pennsylvania’s open U.S. Senate seat as a Republican.

                    Oz — a longtime New Jersey resident — enters a Republican field that is resetting with an influx of candidates and a new opportunity to appeal to voters loyal to former President Donald Trump, now that the candidate endorsed by Trump has just exited the race.

                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                    • George KG George K

                      @horace said in The Wizard of Oz:

                      Oprah sure can pick them. Who's worse, Dr Phil or Doctor Oz?

                      Dr. Phil is a fraud.

                      Dr. Oz is a board-certified heart surgeon.

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                      Doctor Phibes
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                      @george-k said in The Wizard of Oz:

                      Dr. Phil is a fraud.
                      Dr. Oz is a board-certified heart surgeon.

                      Dr. Phil touches the parts of the heart that mere surgery cannot reach.

                      I was only joking

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                      • JollyJ Offline
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                        Isn't Phil a psychologist?

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • MikM Offline
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                          Mik
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                          Yep. Doctor of Psychology. Also a very smart guy.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            Isn't Phil a psychologist?

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                            George K
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                            @jolly said in The Wizard of Oz:

                            Isn't Phil a psychologist?

                            By training, yes. By licensure, no.

                            McGraw stopped renewing his Texas license to practice psychology in 2006.[48] The California Board of Psychology has determined that he does not need a license in that state because he does not practice psychology on his show.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • George KG George K

                              @jolly said in The Wizard of Oz:

                              Isn't Phil a psychologist?

                              By training, yes. By licensure, no.

                              McGraw stopped renewing his Texas license to practice psychology in 2006.[48] The California Board of Psychology has determined that he does not need a license in that state because he does not practice psychology on his show.

                              JollyJ Offline
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                              Jolly
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                              @george-k said in The Wizard of Oz:

                              @jolly said in The Wizard of Oz:

                              Isn't Phil a psychologist?

                              By training, yes. By licensure, no.

                              McGraw stopped renewing his Texas license to practice psychology in 2006.[48] The California Board of Psychology has determined that he does not need a license in that state because he does not practice psychology on his show.

                              As far as he's concerned, a distinction without a difference.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                @george-k said in The Wizard of Oz:

                                @jolly said in The Wizard of Oz:

                                Isn't Phil a psychologist?

                                By training, yes. By licensure, no.

                                McGraw stopped renewing his Texas license to practice psychology in 2006.[48] The California Board of Psychology has determined that he does not need a license in that state because he does not practice psychology on his show.

                                As far as he's concerned, a distinction without a difference.

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                                George K
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                                @jolly said in The Wizard of Oz:

                                As far as he's concerned, a distinction without a difference.

                                That's right, and he's making a TON more money doing what he's doing rather than practicing his trade (Just ask D2 what a doctorate in psychology earns).

                                If you don't have a license, you're not a doctor. You're just someone who's very well educated in a field.

                                It's really a distinction WITH a difference.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • George KG George K

                                  @jolly said in The Wizard of Oz:

                                  As far as he's concerned, a distinction without a difference.

                                  That's right, and he's making a TON more money doing what he's doing rather than practicing his trade (Just ask D2 what a doctorate in psychology earns).

                                  If you don't have a license, you're not a doctor. You're just someone who's very well educated in a field.

                                  It's really a distinction WITH a difference.

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                                  Jolly
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                                  @george-k said in The Wizard of Oz:

                                  @jolly said in The Wizard of Oz:

                                  As far as he's concerned, a distinction without a difference.

                                  That's right, and he's making a TON more money doing what he's doing rather than practicing his trade (Just ask D2 what a doctorate in psychology earns).

                                  If you don't have a license, you're not a doctor. You're just someone who's very well educated in a field.

                                  It's really a distinction WITH a difference.

                                  Well, not quite.

                                  Whether you have a license to practice, you're still a doc. BTW, quit slacking, check to make sure your license is good and go terrorize some residents...

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • MikM Offline
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                                    Mik
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                                    Doctor Octopus is not. Dr Strange is. But I don’t think he keeps his license up either.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      George K
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                                      https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/dr-oz-would-be-one-many-quack-physicians-senate-s-n1285198

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        #25

                                        They need to discredit him, and fast. Instant name recognition and an outsider.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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