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Sometimes, I admire Cruz

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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 15 Nov 2021, 04:46 last edited by jon-nyc
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    Hard to admire a man that throws his little girls under the bus after flying to Cancun.

    Or a guy who campaigns for a man who publicly insulted his wife’s looks and his father’s integrity.

    But we can agree to disagree I guess

    Only non-witches get due process.

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      Horace
      wrote on 15 Nov 2021, 05:03 last edited by
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      Sanctimony is nothing if not agreeable to one's own tribe.

      Education is extremely important.

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        Jolly
        wrote on 15 Nov 2021, 05:19 last edited by
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        Well, at least Cruz didn't vote for Biden and throw the whole country under the bus...

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • J jon-nyc
          15 Nov 2021, 04:46

          Hard to admire a man that throws his little girls under the bus after flying to Cancun.

          Or a guy who campaigns for a man who publicly insulted his wife’s looks and his father’s integrity.

          But we can agree to disagree I guess

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          xenon
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          @jon-nyc said in Sometimes, I admire Cruz:

          Or a guy who campaigns for a man who publicly insulted his wife’s looks and his father’s integrity.

          I forgot about that. Wow - he didn’t hold back:

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            Horace
            wrote on 15 Nov 2021, 06:05 last edited by Horace
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            Trump would have been challenged to a duel back in the day. 10 paces and boom, try to hit the big orange target.

            Instead, unaccountably, Cruz chose not to throw away either his life or his career. Certainly, most of us would have thrown our careers away at the very least in the face of a besmirchment of our honor like that. I think we all have stories of upending our lives over a childish insult. It’s what real honorable men do. High five, gents!

            Education is extremely important.

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            • H Horace
              15 Nov 2021, 06:05

              Trump would have been challenged to a duel back in the day. 10 paces and boom, try to hit the big orange target.

              Instead, unaccountably, Cruz chose not to throw away either his life or his career. Certainly, most of us would have thrown our careers away at the very least in the face of a besmirchment of our honor like that. I think we all have stories of upending our lives over a childish insult. It’s what real honorable men do. High five, gents!

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              xenon
              wrote on 15 Nov 2021, 08:15 last edited by
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              @horace said in Sometimes, I admire Cruz:

              Trump would have been challenged to a duel back in the day. 10 paces and boom, try to hit the big orange target.

              Instead, unaccountably, Cruz chose not to throw away either his life or his career. Certainly, most of us would have thrown our careers away at the very least in the face of a besmirchment of our honor like that. I think we all have stories of upending our lives over a childish insult. It’s what real honorable men do. High five, gents!

              It’s interesting that you frame Cruz’s choices as ignoring being cucked by Trump or throwing away his political career.

              I’m not even necessarily saying you’re wrong.

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                Klaus
                wrote on 15 Nov 2021, 09:12 last edited by
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                Would anyone care to explain this tweet to me?

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 15 Nov 2021, 10:27 last edited by
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                  He’s asking when these two elected Republicans that never pretended to join the Trump cult when they’re going to get their own show on MSNBC.

                  MSNBC is a network that is the left wing analog of Fox
                  news. He managed with the addition of a single adjective to point out that it winks be low rated, a swipe at the network itself.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                    Klaus
                    wrote on 15 Nov 2021, 10:32 last edited by
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                    Thanks, I kind of got that part, but what left me a little puzzled was the "Damn son Liz brought the heat on you!" tweet that he reacted to.

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 15 Nov 2021, 12:33 last edited by
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                      It's a counter punch.

                      Hope Liz enjoys her time in the limelight. I think she'll be looking for a new job in about a year.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        15 Nov 2021, 10:32

                        Thanks, I kind of got that part, but what left me a little puzzled was the "Damn son Liz brought the heat on you!" tweet that he reacted to.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 15 Nov 2021, 12:40 last edited by
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                        @klaus said in Sometimes, I admire Cruz:

                        Thanks, I kind of got that part, but what left me a little puzzled was the "Damn son Liz brought the heat on you!" tweet that he reacted to.

                        It’s more understandable if you put a comma after the word ‘son’.

                        He’s referring to this tweet from Liz to Cruz.

                        (Liz by the way is the daughter of former VP Dick Cheney)

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                        • X xenon
                          15 Nov 2021, 08:15

                          @horace said in Sometimes, I admire Cruz:

                          Trump would have been challenged to a duel back in the day. 10 paces and boom, try to hit the big orange target.

                          Instead, unaccountably, Cruz chose not to throw away either his life or his career. Certainly, most of us would have thrown our careers away at the very least in the face of a besmirchment of our honor like that. I think we all have stories of upending our lives over a childish insult. It’s what real honorable men do. High five, gents!

                          It’s interesting that you frame Cruz’s choices as ignoring being cucked by Trump or throwing away his political career.

                          I’m not even necessarily saying you’re wrong.

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                          Horace
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                          @xenon said in Sometimes, I admire Cruz:

                          @horace said in Sometimes, I admire Cruz:

                          Trump would have been challenged to a duel back in the day. 10 paces and boom, try to hit the big orange target.

                          Instead, unaccountably, Cruz chose not to throw away either his life or his career. Certainly, most of us would have thrown our careers away at the very least in the face of a besmirchment of our honor like that. I think we all have stories of upending our lives over a childish insult. It’s what real honorable men do. High five, gents!

                          It’s interesting that you frame Cruz’s choices as ignoring being cucked by Trump or throwing away his political career.

                          I’m not even necessarily saying you’re wrong.

                          I don't know that he ignored it. Perhaps he slapped Trump with a white glove behind closed doors. But I do know that TDS sufferers would have gleefully watched if the insult had resulted in Cruz throwing a tantrum or making any other choice that would have prevented him from being effective in his political career. But his reaction was not geared towards pleasing TDS sufferers. Now, the only drawback of his chosen responses is that he must live down sanctimony on the internet from TDS sufferers. I suspect he will survive.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            15 Nov 2021, 15:44

                            @xenon said in Sometimes, I admire Cruz:

                            @horace said in Sometimes, I admire Cruz:

                            Trump would have been challenged to a duel back in the day. 10 paces and boom, try to hit the big orange target.

                            Instead, unaccountably, Cruz chose not to throw away either his life or his career. Certainly, most of us would have thrown our careers away at the very least in the face of a besmirchment of our honor like that. I think we all have stories of upending our lives over a childish insult. It’s what real honorable men do. High five, gents!

                            It’s interesting that you frame Cruz’s choices as ignoring being cucked by Trump or throwing away his political career.

                            I’m not even necessarily saying you’re wrong.

                            I don't know that he ignored it. Perhaps he slapped Trump with a white glove behind closed doors. But I do know that TDS sufferers would have gleefully watched if the insult had resulted in Cruz throwing a tantrum or making any other choice that would have prevented him from being effective in his political career. But his reaction was not geared towards pleasing TDS sufferers. Now, the only drawback of his chosen responses is that he must live down sanctimony on the internet from TDS sufferers. I suspect he will survive.

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                            Doctor Phibes
                            wrote on 15 Nov 2021, 17:49 last edited by
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                            @horace said in Sometimes, I admire Cruz:

                            Perhaps he slapped Trump with a white glove behind closed doors.

                            That's the first time I've heard it called that.

                            I was only joking

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                              15 Nov 2021, 12:40

                              @klaus said in Sometimes, I admire Cruz:

                              Thanks, I kind of got that part, but what left me a little puzzled was the "Damn son Liz brought the heat on you!" tweet that he reacted to.

                              It’s more understandable if you put a comma after the word ‘son’.

                              He’s referring to this tweet from Liz to Cruz.

                              (Liz by the way is the daughter of former VP Dick Cheney)

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                              Klaus
                              wrote on 15 Nov 2021, 18:34 last edited by
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                              @jon-nyc Thanks. So Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger are presumably moderate Republicans (I assume Trump would call them RINO) and Ted Cruz is not (or sides with Trump?) and they sling mud at each other.

                              The phrase "bring the heat" wasn't very familiar and I was confused because I thought it meant Cruz would be in heat 🙂

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                              • K Klaus
                                15 Nov 2021, 18:34

                                @jon-nyc Thanks. So Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger are presumably moderate Republicans (I assume Trump would call them RINO) and Ted Cruz is not (or sides with Trump?) and they sling mud at each other.

                                The phrase "bring the heat" wasn't very familiar and I was confused because I thought it meant Cruz would be in heat 🙂

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on 15 Nov 2021, 19:46 last edited by
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                                @klaus said in Sometimes, I admire Cruz:

                                @jon-nyc Thanks. So Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger are presumably moderate Republicans (I assume Trump would call them RINO) and Ted Cruz is not (or sides with Trump?) and they sling mud at each other.

                                The phrase "bring the heat" wasn't very familiar and I was confused because I thought it meant Cruz would be in heat 🙂

                                Bring the heat? Oh, that's just a verbal spat. "Bring it", might be up to fisticuffs. "Bring the heater" has more serious overtones, especially in Chicago.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  15 Nov 2021, 18:34

                                  @jon-nyc Thanks. So Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger are presumably moderate Republicans (I assume Trump would call them RINO) and Ted Cruz is not (or sides with Trump?) and they sling mud at each other.

                                  The phrase "bring the heat" wasn't very familiar and I was confused because I thought it meant Cruz would be in heat 🙂

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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on 15 Nov 2021, 20:20 last edited by Renauda
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                                  @klaus said in Sometimes, I admire Cruz:

                                  So Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger are presumably moderate Republicans

                                  Can’t speak to Kinzinger but I wouldn’t necessarily consider Liz Cheney moderate although she is to the right side of the aisle more so than a paleo - conservativeRepublican. Possibly a neo-con by pedigree on her father’s side but most definitely not a Trump republican by any stretch of the imagination.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on 15 Nov 2021, 22:54 last edited by
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                                    Well, whatever she is, a Republican ain't it...

                                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/wyoming-gop-votes-to-stop-recognizing-cheney-as-a-republican/ar-AAQJXhX?ocid=msedgntp

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on 15 Nov 2021, 23:52 last edited by
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                                      I have lost a tremendous amount of respect for Cruz over the last 4 years.

                                      The Brad

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                                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad
                                        15 Nov 2021, 23:52

                                        I have lost a tremendous amount of respect for Cruz over the last 4 years.

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                                        Doctor Phibes
                                        wrote on 16 Nov 2021, 00:04 last edited by
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                                        @lufins-dad said in Sometimes, I admire Cruz:

                                        I have lost a tremendous amount of respect for Cruz over the last 4 years.

                                        I haven't.

                                        I was only joking

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                                          15 Nov 2021, 22:54

                                          Well, whatever she is, a Republican ain't it...

                                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/wyoming-gop-votes-to-stop-recognizing-cheney-as-a-republican/ar-AAQJXhX?ocid=msedgntp

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 16 Nov 2021, 01:01 last edited by jon-nyc
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                                          @jolly said in Sometimes, I admire Cruz:

                                          Well, whatever she is, a Republican ain't it...

                                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/wyoming-gop-votes-to-stop-recognizing-cheney-as-a-republican/ar-AAQJXhX?ocid=msedgntp

                                          That’s just a bold-face confession from the Wyoming gop that the party has become a Trumpist cult. She’s far to the right of people like MTJ that get full throated approval by these guys.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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