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    Mik
    wrote on 19 Nov 2021, 16:05 last edited by
    #18

    I do not believe you will find any trailer parks in Jon's neighborhood. Nor in the surrounding area.

    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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      Jolly
      wrote on 19 Nov 2021, 18:49 last edited by
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      For miles.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        Mik
        wrote on 19 Nov 2021, 20:30 last edited by
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        But I do believe the GOP will be campaigning all over this one.

        https://www.newsweek.com/congratulations-democrats-you-just-passed-massive-tax-cut-rich-opinion-1651262

        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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        • M Mik
          19 Nov 2021, 20:30

          But I do believe the GOP will be campaigning all over this one.

          https://www.newsweek.com/congratulations-democrats-you-just-passed-massive-tax-cut-rich-opinion-1651262

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 19 Nov 2021, 22:47 last edited by
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          @mik said in SALT:

          But I do believe the GOP will be campaigning all over this one.

          https://www.newsweek.com/congratulations-democrats-you-just-passed-massive-tax-cut-rich-opinion-1651262

          Congratulations indeed!!!!

          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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            Improviso
            wrote on 20 Nov 2021, 19:11 last edited by
            #22

            No surprise it passed the House.

            The Senate may be a different story.

            We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
            Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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              taiwan_girl
              wrote on 18 Sept 2024, 02:13 last edited by
              #23

              https://www.axios.com/2024/09/18/trump-salt-tax-cuts-senate

              Trump's surprise post on SALT deductions Tuesday has forced Senate Republicans into a pickle: contradict their party's leader or their old positions.

              Why it matters: For Republican leaders, it's a taste of what's to come if Trump wins back the White House.
              They'll have to harmonize their own positions — in real time — with a president who is constantly changing his.
              Trump posted he would "get SALT back."

              That's a strong indication he wants to let those in high-tax states deduct more than $10,000 from their federal taxes — a limit he championed in his 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act

              and

              The bottom line: Removing the $10,000 SALT cap would cost an estimated $1.2 trillion over a decade, according to the Committee for a Responsible Federal Government.
              An estimated 92% of the benefit would go to the top 10% of earners, according to CRFB.

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                bachophile
                wrote on 18 Sept 2024, 08:50 last edited by
                #24

                Just to show you how old I am, I thought this was about the nuclear arms race. (If you have to look that up, you are too young)

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                  Wim
                  wrote on 18 Sept 2024, 11:03 last edited by
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                  +1

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                    Axtremus
                    wrote on 18 Sept 2024, 11:25 last edited by
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                      George K
                      wrote on 18 Sept 2024, 11:51 last edited by
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                      "Trump takes SALT away so he can promise to give it back later and the cult I mean crowd goes wild."

                      Sorta like a anti-IRS.

                      Meet the Press (in the 1980s): "So the IRS is going to lower the rates, but also eliminate a lot of deductions. What's to keep the IRS from raising the rates again?"

                      George Will: "Absolutely nothing."

                      If I had to guess, it was not The GOP's or Trump's idea to limit the SALT deduction. Probably part of a compromise.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 18 Sept 2024, 14:48 last edited by
                        #28

                        Trump campaign strategy: YOU get a car!!!! And YOU get a car!!!! And YOU get a car!!!! And YOU get a car!!!!

                        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                          xenon
                          wrote on 18 Sept 2024, 15:44 last edited by xenon
                          #29

                          It's so weird that this doesn't matter at all. No other politician but Trump can pull shit like this off... but it really doesn't make a diff.

                          This and him clearly being bought off on Tik Tok.... doesn't matter.

                          Politics has gone overtly into being about the "vibes".... I think it'll drive disengagement. I don't care much what happens in November this year.

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                            18 Sept 2024, 14:48

                            Trump campaign strategy: YOU get a car!!!! And YOU get a car!!!! And YOU get a car!!!! And YOU get a car!!!!

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 18 Sept 2024, 15:57 last edited by
                            #30

                            @jon-nyc said in SALT:

                            Trump campaign strategy: YOU get a car!!!! And YOU get a car!!!! And YOU get a car!!!! And YOU get a car!!!!

                            Yeah, but Harris is giving away houses....

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              xenon
                              wrote on 18 Sept 2024, 16:02 last edited by
                              #31

                              The ironic part is hyper-partisanship means President are mostly legislatively neutered. So all this is hot air anyways.

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                                Horace
                                wrote on 18 Sept 2024, 16:04 last edited by
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                                You can call a draw on all policy and still recognize a difference in stuff that is unequivocally under a president's control, such as appointments and messaging. In fact, if legislative policy is a draw, it makes it easier to come to a preference between the two candidates.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on 18 Sept 2024, 16:13 last edited by
                                  #33

                                  Very true.

                                  "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 18 Sept 2024, 16:26 last edited by
                                    #34

                                    Except the shitty parts of Trump policy (capitulation to Russia, tariffs) he can do on his own and the shitty parts of her policies (taxes, price controls) she can’t.

                                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                    • HoraceH Horace
                                      18 Sept 2024, 16:04

                                      You can call a draw on all policy and still recognize a difference in stuff that is unequivocally under a president's control, such as appointments and messaging. In fact, if legislative policy is a draw, it makes it easier to come to a preference between the two candidates.

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 18 Sept 2024, 16:30 last edited by jon-nyc
                                      #35

                                      @Horace said in SALT:

                                      You can call a draw on all policy and still recognize a difference in stuff that is unequivocally under a president's control, such as appointments ….

                                      “Trump’s economics suck and all, but at least we’ll get RFK Jr setting health policy”.

                                      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                      • J jon-nyc
                                        18 Sept 2024, 16:30

                                        @Horace said in SALT:

                                        You can call a draw on all policy and still recognize a difference in stuff that is unequivocally under a president's control, such as appointments ….

                                        “Trump’s economics suck and all, but at least we’ll get RFK Jr setting health policy”.

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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on 18 Sept 2024, 16:35 last edited by
                                        #36

                                        @jon-nyc said in SALT:

                                        @Horace said in SALT:

                                        You can call a draw on all policy and still recognize a difference in stuff that is unequivocally under a president's control, such as appointments ….

                                        “Trump’s economics suck and all, but at least we’ll get RFK Jr setting health policy”.

                                        For a person so adamant that people not put words in his mouth, you sure do play fast and loose with this sort of stuff. But sure, let the public decide a preference between Fauci and RFK Jr. I don't think that preference is nearly as obviously a litmus test for crazy vs smart as your twitter feed would indicate.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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