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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/powerful-new-jersey-senate-democrat-says-12-000-ballots-recently-found-support-refusal-to-concede-to-truck-driver

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      #2

      Sure...

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • LuFins DadL Offline
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        LuFins Dad
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        #3

        12K ballots would 20% of the original 60K counted or 16% of the new total. Are they seriously expecting us to believe they never noticed roughly 1/5 of the total ballots cast were missing?

        The Brad

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        • LuFins DadL Offline
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          LuFins Dad
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          #4

          If they did lose that many then the sheer incompetence of the election officials in Jersey would demand a complete recount at the least and possibly a whole new election.

          The Brad

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            12K ballots would 20% of the original 60K counted or 16% of the new total. Are they seriously expecting us to believe they never noticed roughly 1/5 of the total ballots cast were missing?

            George KG Offline
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            George K
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            @lufins-dad said in "Recently found" ballots:

            Are they seriously expecting us to believe they never noticed roughly 1/5 of the total ballots cast were missing?

            It's worked before.

            https://news.yahoo.com/news/look-infamous-ballot-box-13-162200778.html

            The results of Box 13 from the senatorial Democratic primary runoff election race in August of 1948, between Lyndon Baines Johnson and Coke Robert Stevenson, was the deciding factor in that election and arguably altered the course of history. As for the controversy surrounding those results, on Sept. 3, some six days after the polls had closed, 202 additional ballots in precinct 13 were discovered that had not been counted."Of those votes, 201 went for LBJ, and one was for Stevenson, so I think it's very clear what happened in that box," said R. David Guerrero, district clerk of Jim Wells County.Those 201 votes gave LBJ the victory over Stevenson, and the rest is history.

            201 to 1.

            Sounds legit.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • AxtremusA Offline
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              Axtremus
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              Investigate, and if warranted, prosecute to the full extent of the law.

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              • JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
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                If the ballots are not where they are supposed to be, by midnight of the election day - mail-in, paper, electronic, whatever - they should not be counted.

                Period.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  If the ballots are not where they are supposed to be, by midnight of the election day - mail-in, paper, electronic, whatever - they should not be counted.

                  Period.

                  AxtremusA Offline
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                  Axtremus
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                  #8

                  @jolly said in "Recently found" ballots:

                  If the ballots are not where they are supposed to be, by midnight of the election day - mail-in, paper, electronic, whatever - they should not be counted.

                  New Jersey election law requires that mail-in ballots be post-marked by the Election Day and to physically arrive at the voting office by 8:00pm on the sixth day after Election Day to be counted.

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                  • AxtremusA Axtremus

                    @jolly said in "Recently found" ballots:

                    If the ballots are not where they are supposed to be, by midnight of the election day - mail-in, paper, electronic, whatever - they should not be counted.

                    New Jersey election law requires that mail-in ballots be post-marked by the Election Day and to physically arrive at the voting office by 8:00pm on the sixth day after Election Day to be counted.

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on last edited by
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                    @axtremus said in "Recently found" ballots:

                    @jolly said in "Recently found" ballots:

                    If the ballots are not where they are supposed to be, by midnight of the election day - mail-in, paper, electronic, whatever - they should not be counted.

                    New Jersey election law requires that mail-in ballots be post-marked by the Election Day and to physically arrive at the voting office by 8:00pm on the sixth day after Election Day to be counted.

                    Don't care.

                    The reason for mail-in voting is to allow people to vote from home, for whatever reason (I don't like mail-in ballots, but that's another discussion). If you can't haul your dead ass out to the mailbox to make sure your ballot gets to where it needs to be by midnight of election day, your vote shouldn't count.

                    Period.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • LuFins DadL Offline
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                      LuFins Dad
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                      There are some issues there, too. Early voting in VA began before the McAuliffe admission about his opinion of parent involvement in education. That single issue turned this entire election. How many votes were cast beforehand?

                      How many Google searches last year in PA, Wisconsin, and Michigan about how to change your vote happened after Biden screwed up in the last debate and admitted their jobs were gone if he had his way? I recall thousands… Enough to have changed the outcome? Quite probably…

                      The Brad

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        There are some issues there, too. Early voting in VA began before the McAuliffe admission about his opinion of parent involvement in education. That single issue turned this entire election. How many votes were cast beforehand?

                        How many Google searches last year in PA, Wisconsin, and Michigan about how to change your vote happened after Biden screwed up in the last debate and admitted their jobs were gone if he had his way? I recall thousands… Enough to have changed the outcome? Quite probably…

                        JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
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                        @lufins-dad said in "Recently found" ballots:

                        There are some issues there, too. Early voting in VA began before the McAuliffe admission about his opinion of parent involvement in education. That single issue turned this entire election. How many votes were cast beforehand?

                        How many Google searches last year in PA, Wisconsin, and Michigan about how to change your vote happened after Biden screwed up in the last debate and admitted their jobs were gone if he had his way? I recall thousands… Enough to have changed the outcome? Quite probably…

                        Therefore...Let's eliminate mail-in ballots, except for military and state department serving overseas. You want to vote early? Fine. You'll have a one-week period, two weeks before the election day. Show your ID and vote at a pre-assigned place manned by state officials or employees and assessible by poll watchers.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          @axtremus said in "Recently found" ballots:

                          @jolly said in "Recently found" ballots:

                          If the ballots are not where they are supposed to be, by midnight of the election day - mail-in, paper, electronic, whatever - they should not be counted.

                          New Jersey election law requires that mail-in ballots be post-marked by the Election Day and to physically arrive at the voting office by 8:00pm on the sixth day after Election Day to be counted.

                          Don't care.

                          The reason for mail-in voting is to allow people to vote from home, for whatever reason (I don't like mail-in ballots, but that's another discussion). If you can't haul your dead ass out to the mailbox to make sure your ballot gets to where it needs to be by midnight of election day, your vote shouldn't count.

                          Period.

                          AxtremusA Offline
                          AxtremusA Offline
                          Axtremus
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #12

                          @jolly said in "Recently found" ballots:

                          @axtremus said in "Recently found" ballots:

                          @jolly said in "Recently found" ballots:

                          If the ballots are not where they are supposed to be, by midnight of the election day - mail-in, paper, electronic, whatever - they should not be counted.

                          New Jersey election law requires that mail-in ballots be post-marked by the Election Day and to physically arrive at the voting office by 8:00pm on the sixth day after Election Day to be counted.

                          Don't care.

                          That's alright, man, I doubt the state of New Jersey cares about your opinion on how it should run its elections either.

                          As a matter of policy, you're getting closer to trampling over the Tenth Amendment with regards to federalism and states' rights as you try to tell other states how to run their elections for state and local elected offices.

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                          • AxtremusA Axtremus

                            @jolly said in "Recently found" ballots:

                            @axtremus said in "Recently found" ballots:

                            @jolly said in "Recently found" ballots:

                            If the ballots are not where they are supposed to be, by midnight of the election day - mail-in, paper, electronic, whatever - they should not be counted.

                            New Jersey election law requires that mail-in ballots be post-marked by the Election Day and to physically arrive at the voting office by 8:00pm on the sixth day after Election Day to be counted.

                            Don't care.

                            That's alright, man, I doubt the state of New Jersey cares about your opinion on how it should run its elections either.

                            As a matter of policy, you're getting closer to trampling over the Tenth Amendment with regards to federalism and states' rights as you try to tell other states how to run their elections for state and local elected offices.

                            JollyJ Offline
                            JollyJ Offline
                            Jolly
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #13

                            @axtremus said in "Recently found" ballots:

                            @jolly said in "Recently found" ballots:

                            @axtremus said in "Recently found" ballots:

                            @jolly said in "Recently found" ballots:

                            If the ballots are not where they are supposed to be, by midnight of the election day - mail-in, paper, electronic, whatever - they should not be counted.

                            New Jersey election law requires that mail-in ballots be post-marked by the Election Day and to physically arrive at the voting office by 8:00pm on the sixth day after Election Day to be counted.

                            Don't care.

                            That's alright, man, I doubt the state of New Jersey cares about your opinion on how it should run its elections either.

                            As a matter of policy, you're getting closer to trampling over the Tenth Amendment with regards to federalism and states' rights as you try to tell other states how to run their elections for state and local elected offices.

                            Funny, the Tenth never bothered you before....

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

                            AxtremusA 1 Reply Last reply
                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              @axtremus said in "Recently found" ballots:

                              @jolly said in "Recently found" ballots:

                              @axtremus said in "Recently found" ballots:

                              @jolly said in "Recently found" ballots:

                              If the ballots are not where they are supposed to be, by midnight of the election day - mail-in, paper, electronic, whatever - they should not be counted.

                              New Jersey election law requires that mail-in ballots be post-marked by the Election Day and to physically arrive at the voting office by 8:00pm on the sixth day after Election Day to be counted.

                              Don't care.

                              That's alright, man, I doubt the state of New Jersey cares about your opinion on how it should run its elections either.

                              As a matter of policy, you're getting closer to trampling over the Tenth Amendment with regards to federalism and states' rights as you try to tell other states how to run their elections for state and local elected offices.

                              Funny, the Tenth never bothered you before....

                              AxtremusA Offline
                              AxtremusA Offline
                              Axtremus
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                              @jolly said in "Recently found" ballots:

                              @axtremus said in "Recently found" ballots:

                              @jolly said in "Recently found" ballots:

                              @axtremus said in "Recently found" ballots:

                              @jolly said in "Recently found" ballots:

                              If the ballots are not where they are supposed to be, by midnight of the election day - mail-in, paper, electronic, whatever - they should not be counted.

                              New Jersey election law requires that mail-in ballots be post-marked by the Election Day and to physically arrive at the voting office by 8:00pm on the sixth day after Election Day to be counted.

                              Don't care.

                              That's alright, man, I doubt the state of New Jersey cares about your opinion on how it should run its elections either.

                              As a matter of policy, you're getting closer to trampling over the Tenth Amendment with regards to federalism and states' rights as you try to tell other states how to run their elections for state and local elected offices.

                              Funny, the Tenth never bothered you before....

                              I just enjoy watching “Conservatives” and Republicans abandon their long held “principles” since Trump burst onto the scene. From “character matters” to not. From against double-taxation to for. And now the abandonment of the Tenth Amendment.

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                              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                @jolly said in "Recently found" ballots:

                                @axtremus said in "Recently found" ballots:

                                @jolly said in "Recently found" ballots:

                                If the ballots are not where they are supposed to be, by midnight of the election day - mail-in, paper, electronic, whatever - they should not be counted.

                                New Jersey election law requires that mail-in ballots be post-marked by the Election Day and to physically arrive at the voting office by 8:00pm on the sixth day after Election Day to be counted.

                                Don't care.

                                That's alright, man, I doubt the state of New Jersey cares about your opinion on how it should run its elections either.

                                As a matter of policy, you're getting closer to trampling over the Tenth Amendment with regards to federalism and states' rights as you try to tell other states how to run their elections for state and local elected offices.

                                George KG Offline
                                George KG Offline
                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
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                                @axtremus said in "Recently found" ballots:

                                you're getting closer to trampling over the Tenth Amendment

                                Nothing @Jolly said is in contradiction to the Tenth Amendment. Did he say "make it a 'federal law'?"

                                Let me check.

                                Nope he indeed did not.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                  @jolly said in "Recently found" ballots:

                                  @axtremus said in "Recently found" ballots:

                                  @jolly said in "Recently found" ballots:

                                  @axtremus said in "Recently found" ballots:

                                  @jolly said in "Recently found" ballots:

                                  If the ballots are not where they are supposed to be, by midnight of the election day - mail-in, paper, electronic, whatever - they should not be counted.

                                  New Jersey election law requires that mail-in ballots be post-marked by the Election Day and to physically arrive at the voting office by 8:00pm on the sixth day after Election Day to be counted.

                                  Don't care.

                                  That's alright, man, I doubt the state of New Jersey cares about your opinion on how it should run its elections either.

                                  As a matter of policy, you're getting closer to trampling over the Tenth Amendment with regards to federalism and states' rights as you try to tell other states how to run their elections for state and local elected offices.

                                  Funny, the Tenth never bothered you before....

                                  I just enjoy watching “Conservatives” and Republicans abandon their long held “principles” since Trump burst onto the scene. From “character matters” to not. From against double-taxation to for. And now the abandonment of the Tenth Amendment.

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                                  Larry
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #16

                                  @axtremus said in "Recently found" ballots:

                                  @jolly said in "Recently found" ballots:

                                  @axtremus said in "Recently found" ballots:

                                  @jolly said in "Recently found" ballots:

                                  @axtremus said in "Recently found" ballots:

                                  @jolly said in "Recently found" ballots:

                                  If the ballots are not where they are supposed to be, by midnight of the election day - mail-in, paper, electronic, whatever - they should not be counted.

                                  New Jersey election law requires that mail-in ballots be post-marked by the Election Day and to physically arrive at the voting office by 8:00pm on the sixth day after Election Day to be counted.

                                  Don't care.

                                  That's alright, man, I doubt the state of New Jersey cares about your opinion on how it should run its elections either.

                                  As a matter of policy, you're getting closer to trampling over the Tenth Amendment with regards to federalism and states' rights as you try to tell other states how to run their elections for state and local elected offices.

                                  Funny, the Tenth never bothered you before....

                                  I just enjoy watching “Conservatives” and Republicans abandon their long held “principles” since Trump burst onto the scene. From “character matters” to not. From against double-taxation to for. And now the abandonment of the Tenth Amendment.

                                  You have got to be the stupidest fucking fool i have ever known.

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                                    Jolly
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                                    Nah, remember Davey from the RMMPer Room?

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      George K
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                                      #18

                                      https://newjerseyglobe.com/legislature/sweeney-to-concede-loss-senate-president-election-set-for-friday/

                                      Senate President Steve Sweeney is set to concede his re-election defeat on Wednesday and Democrats have scheduled an election this Friday to choose his successor, the New Jersey Globe has learned.

                                      Nicholas Scutari, the current Senate Judiciary chairman, has a lock on the position, a New Jersey Globe tally shows, but still must face a vote. State Sen. Nia Gill is challenging him in a bid to become the first woman and first person of color to serve as Senate President.

                                      Senate Majority Leader Teresa Ruiz is set to become the state’s first Latina majority leader, although a Star-Ledger editorial is trying to push her into the Senate President race.

                                      Republican Edward Durr ousted Sweeney, a senator for the last 20 years and the longest-serving legislative leader in New Jersey history, in last week’s election. He now has a 2,212-vote lead over Sweeney in the 3rd legislative district.

                                      Sweeney had scheduled an announcement for today – which was expected to be a concession – but that event never occurred.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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