Note For Cyclists
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wrote on 6 Nov 2021, 13:40 last edited by
Studies that have compared indigenous tribes of hunter-gatherers in northern Tanzania – who walk an average of 19,000 steps a day – with sedentary populations in Europe and the US have found that their total number of calories burned is largely the same.
Some scientists believe that this is because the body is programmed to keep its average daily energy expenditure within a defined range. To explain the theory, Pontzer gives the example of a keen amateur cyclist who takes part in 100km bike rides at weekends.
Overall, that individual still won’t burn more calories on average than a sedentary person, but their average energy expenditure will be skewed towards providing fuel for the muscles. The sedentary person will burn a similar number of calories, but on background bodily functions which we do not notice, including less healthy outlets such as producing inflammation and stress.For more interesting stuff on metabolism: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/oct/30/burn-baby-burn-the-new-science-of-metabolism?utm_source=pocket-newtab
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wrote on 6 Nov 2021, 14:40 last edited by
Sure.
Who here has eaten an assload, consistently, over Christmas or Thanksgiving?
Who here has done some centuries? Over Christmas or Thanksgiving?Let's compare notes.
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Studies that have compared indigenous tribes of hunter-gatherers in northern Tanzania – who walk an average of 19,000 steps a day – with sedentary populations in Europe and the US have found that their total number of calories burned is largely the same.
Some scientists believe that this is because the body is programmed to keep its average daily energy expenditure within a defined range. To explain the theory, Pontzer gives the example of a keen amateur cyclist who takes part in 100km bike rides at weekends.
Overall, that individual still won’t burn more calories on average than a sedentary person, but their average energy expenditure will be skewed towards providing fuel for the muscles. The sedentary person will burn a similar number of calories, but on background bodily functions which we do not notice, including less healthy outlets such as producing inflammation and stress.For more interesting stuff on metabolism: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/oct/30/burn-baby-burn-the-new-science-of-metabolism?utm_source=pocket-newtab
wrote on 6 Nov 2021, 17:01 last edited by Doctor Phibes 11 Jun 2021, 17:02Isn't it funny how so few cyclists doing 100km rides are obese?
What an amazing coincidence!
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Isn't it funny how so few cyclists doing 100km rides are obese?
What an amazing coincidence!
wrote on 6 Nov 2021, 17:10 last edited by@doctor-phibes Maybe you have to be unobese to do it in the first place . . . ?
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wrote on 6 Nov 2021, 17:11 last edited by
Or maybe they keep their weight down by throwing punches at all the people who laugh at their funny-looking helmets . . . ?
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@doctor-phibes Maybe you have to be unobese to do it in the first place . . . ?
wrote on 6 Nov 2021, 17:14 last edited by@catseye3 said in Note For Cyclists:
@doctor-phibes Maybe you have to be unobese to do it in the first place . . . ?
Just some helpful advice, Cats: next time, try riding a bike instead of sharing articles from the Guardian about cyclists. You'll feel the wind in your hair, the smell of the outdoors, and your neighborhood in a new light. You can also put these theories of yours into practice. I honestly think it'd do wonders for you. Give it a try!
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@catseye3 said in Note For Cyclists:
@doctor-phibes Maybe you have to be unobese to do it in the first place . . . ?
Just some helpful advice, Cats: next time, try riding a bike instead of sharing articles from the Guardian about cyclists. You'll feel the wind in your hair, the smell of the outdoors, and your neighborhood in a new light. You can also put these theories of yours into practice. I honestly think it'd do wonders for you. Give it a try!
wrote on 6 Nov 2021, 17:21 last edited by Catseye3 11 Jun 2021, 17:23@aqua-letifer And this advice is helpful why?
And why do you believe the OP article is critical of cyclists? It isn't. It doesn't even have that much to do with cyclists.
Here's my helpful advice, Aqua: Don't be so sensitive.
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@aqua-letifer And this advice is helpful why?
And why do you believe the OP article is critical of cyclists? It isn't. It doesn't even have that much to do with cyclists.
Here's my helpful advice, Aqua: Don't be so sensitive.
wrote on 6 Nov 2021, 17:26 last edited by@catseye3 said in Note For Cyclists:
@aqua-letifer And this advice is helpful why?
And why do you believe the OP article is critical of cyclists? It isn't. It doesn't even have that much to do with cyclists.
Here's my helpful advice, Aqua: Don't be so sensitive.
Thank you for proving @Horace 's point.
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@catseye3 said in Note For Cyclists:
@doctor-phibes Maybe you have to be unobese to do it in the first place . . . ?
Just some helpful advice, Cats: next time, try riding a bike instead of sharing articles from the Guardian about cyclists. You'll feel the wind in your hair, the smell of the outdoors, and your neighborhood in a new light. You can also put these theories of yours into practice. I honestly think it'd do wonders for you. Give it a try!
wrote on 6 Nov 2021, 18:31 last edited by@aqua-letifer said in Note For Cyclists:
You'll feel the wind in your hair
To be fair, you can also feel the wind in your hair with background bodily functions which we do not notice.
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wrote on 6 Nov 2021, 18:58 last edited by Klaus 11 Jun 2021, 18:59
I'm only n=1, but I personally cannot confirm that study. When I don't ride my bike or do any other form of activity for a few weeks, I gain weight.
One thing that I did notice, which is somewhat related to the
about 90% of people who lose significant amounts of weight, whether through diets, structured programmes or even drastic steps such as gastric surgery, ultimately regain just about all of it.
point of the article: Compared to when my weight was 65 pounds more, I'll gain weight at ridiculously low daily calorie levels. That difference is much higher than what can be explained by the difference in body weight and the base rate difference resulting from it. I'm pretty sure that I ate more than 4000 calories a day back then, and gained maybe 1kg per year or so - almost constant. These days, I need to be below 2500 kcal/day, even while including 100km rides on the weekend. It's scary how easy it would be to gain that weight back.
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wrote on 6 Nov 2021, 19:02 last edited by
It's scary how easy it would be to gain that weight back.
Same for me, but throughout daily activities, I can't eat like that anymore. Hiking or biking all day, sure, but otherwise it's easy for me not to go too high on caloric intake—my body can't deal with it anymore.
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wrote on 6 Nov 2021, 19:22 last edited by
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wrote on 6 Nov 2021, 20:12 last edited by
Oh, I'd find it super-easy to eat 3 bags of potato chips and other unhealthy stuff every day.
From what I hear and read, it often takes 5 years for the body to really adapt to a new weight point. I'm halfway there.
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wrote on 7 Nov 2021, 01:19 last edited by
I dont know. There is something to metabolism. That is why it is so hard to lose weight - the first kgs are easy, but it gets harder and harder, even if you keep cutting calories or increasing calories burned.
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I dont know. There is something to metabolism. That is why it is so hard to lose weight - the first kgs are easy, but it gets harder and harder, even if you keep cutting calories or increasing calories burned.
wrote on 7 Nov 2021, 01:28 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in Note For Cyclists:
I dont know. There is something to metabolism. That is why it is so hard to lose weight - the first kgs are easy, but it gets harder and harder, even if you keep cutting calories or increasing calories burned.
Metabolism, type of food consumed (plus when and how frequently), gut flora, type of exercise, plus its duration, frequency, and intensity all contribute.
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@taiwan_girl said in Note For Cyclists:
I dont know. There is something to metabolism. That is why it is so hard to lose weight - the first kgs are easy, but it gets harder and harder, even if you keep cutting calories or increasing calories burned.
Metabolism, type of food consumed (plus when and how frequently), gut flora, type of exercise, plus its duration, frequency, and intensity all contribute.
wrote on 7 Nov 2021, 01:42 last edited by@aqua-letifer Agree. There are alot of debates on weight loss and wether or not that is important.
One side says that calories in < calories out will result in weight loss
One side says no, it does not matter. Types of calories you eat are more important and how much calories you eat is not a big deal
Probably a combination of the two.
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@aqua-letifer Agree. There are alot of debates on weight loss and wether or not that is important.
One side says that calories in < calories out will result in weight loss
One side says no, it does not matter. Types of calories you eat are more important and how much calories you eat is not a big deal
Probably a combination of the two.
wrote on 7 Nov 2021, 02:54 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in Note For Cyclists:
@aqua-letifer Agree. There are alot of debates on weight loss and wether or not that is important.
One side says that calories in < calories out will result in weight loss
One side says no, it does not matter. Types of calories you eat are more important and how much calories you eat is not a big deal
Probably a combination of the two.
It's also pretty obvious that genetics plays a role.
I have my father's thighs.
