The Brits Do It Better
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Hawley suggested the incident exemplified misplaced priorities in the U.S. military under the Biden administration
I know it's his job to say stuff like that, but does anybody honestly believe that the quality of the armed forces deteriorated that quickly?
Incidentally, I've heard it claimed on a number of occasions that British troops are better trained than the US.
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Tomorrow, the world!
Hawley suggested the incident exemplified misplaced priorities in the U.S. military under the Biden administration
I know it's his job to say stuff like that, but does anybody honestly believe that the quality of the armed forces deteriorated that quickly?
Incidentally, I've heard it claimed on a number of occasions that British troops are better trained than the US.
@doctor-phibes said in The Brits Do It Better:
I know it's his job to say stuff like that, but does anybody honestly believe that the quality of the armed forces deteriorated that quickly?
Excellent point. This didn't happen this year. It's part of a culture that's persisted for decades.
Incidentally, I've heard it claimed on a number of occasions that British troops are better trained than the US.
I saw a story saying that today (can't find it now). In real world performance, I wonder how much of a difference it really makes. They might be trained better, but do they perform better?
I have no opinion or knowledge of this, of course. Just wondering.
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@doctor-phibes said in The Brits Do It Better:
I know it's his job to say stuff like that, but does anybody honestly believe that the quality of the armed forces deteriorated that quickly?
Excellent point. This didn't happen this year. It's part of a culture that's persisted for decades.
Incidentally, I've heard it claimed on a number of occasions that British troops are better trained than the US.
I saw a story saying that today (can't find it now). In real world performance, I wonder how much of a difference it really makes. They might be trained better, but do they perform better?
I have no opinion or knowledge of this, of course. Just wondering.
@george-k said in The Brits Do It Better:
I saw a story saying that today (can't find it now). In real world performance, I wonder how much of a difference it really makes. They might be trained better, but do they perform better?
I have no opinion or knowledge of this, of course. Just wondering.The US has a lot more troops than the British. A shit-ton more. It's a little hard to judge.
And we know the US spends orders of magnitude more money on the military.
Still, apparently they kicked your asses in this example.
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The Taliban should be in the left column between the UK and Saudi.
OK, not actual spending, but value received.
@copper said in The Brits Do It Better:
The Taliban should be in the left column between the UK and Saudi.
OK, not actual spending, but value received.
I wonder if the Europeans could persuade the Americans to abandon all their bases over there, and leave their shit behind. It could be a real bonanza.
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Following the exercise, the US Marine Corps tweeted their appreciation for the UK’s involvement in the exercise. “U.S. Marines are fortunate to train with allies and partners all over the world, every day – including our brothers and sisters in the @RoyalMarines,” the service wrote. “As fellow soldiers of the sea, we have a unique and proven bond shared by those who have earned the title of ‘Marine’.
“Tough, realistic training with foreign partners allows us to sharpen our skills, validate our techniques, and learn new tactics. Iron sharpens iron.”
Following reports that the Royal Marines had claimed victory, Captain Zachary Colvin, the communications and strategy director with the Marine Air Ground Combat Center, released a statement to the Military Times, in which he said there was no winner. “Winners are never determined,” he said. “This exercise does not provide an opportunity to ‘surrender,’ ‘keep score,’ or ‘reset.’ The objective of the exercise is to heighten unit performance and increase readiness.
“During this exercise, a U.S. Marine Regiment augmented with subordinate units formed an adversary force to actively challenge and test a peer regiment of U.S. Marines,” he continued. “This training opportunity increased warfighting readiness and interoperability of the U.S. Marine Corps with multinational forces. Exercise scenarios are adjusted as needed to assist commanders in meeting training objectives.”
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Following the exercise, the US Marine Corps tweeted their appreciation for the UK’s involvement in the exercise. “U.S. Marines are fortunate to train with allies and partners all over the world, every day – including our brothers and sisters in the @RoyalMarines,” the service wrote. “As fellow soldiers of the sea, we have a unique and proven bond shared by those who have earned the title of ‘Marine’.
“Tough, realistic training with foreign partners allows us to sharpen our skills, validate our techniques, and learn new tactics. Iron sharpens iron.”
Following reports that the Royal Marines had claimed victory, Captain Zachary Colvin, the communications and strategy director with the Marine Air Ground Combat Center, released a statement to the Military Times, in which he said there was no winner. “Winners are never determined,” he said. “This exercise does not provide an opportunity to ‘surrender,’ ‘keep score,’ or ‘reset.’ The objective of the exercise is to heighten unit performance and increase readiness.
“During this exercise, a U.S. Marine Regiment augmented with subordinate units formed an adversary force to actively challenge and test a peer regiment of U.S. Marines,” he continued. “This training opportunity increased warfighting readiness and interoperability of the U.S. Marine Corps with multinational forces. Exercise scenarios are adjusted as needed to assist commanders in meeting training objectives.”
@george-k said in The Brits Do It Better:
We didn't lose!!
It's not winning that's important, it's taking part that counts.
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@george-k said in The Brits Do It Better:
We didn't lose!!
It's not winning that's important, it's taking part that counts.
@doctor-phibes said in The Brits Do It Better:
@george-k said in The Brits Do It Better:
We didn't lose!!
It's not winning that's important, it's taking part that counts.
That's what I told xer.
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@doctor-phibes said in The Brits Do It Better:
@george-k said in The Brits Do It Better:
We didn't lose!!
It's not winning that's important, it's taking part that counts.
That's what I told xer.
@george-k said in The Brits Do It Better:
@doctor-phibes said in The Brits Do It Better:
@george-k said in The Brits Do It Better:
We didn't lose!!
It's not winning that's important, it's taking part that counts.
That's what I told xer.
Maybe we shouldn't take too much notice of what Senator Hawley says. He seems to have a real problem understanding the difference between winning and losing.
