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  • ImprovisoI Improviso

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    "When you start manufacturing facts to support false accusations, you get into trouble under the law of defamation."

    When this is all said and done, I wonder who comes out richer?

    Nicholas Sandmann or Rittenhouse?

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    George K
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    #61

    @improviso said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

    BTW, Wood is NOT his lawyer now. It looks like he might have been originally.

    https://lawandcrime.com/exclusive/behind-fightback-untold-tales-of-lin-wood-an-unreported-gun-incident-and-how-kyle-rittenhouses-mother-sees-it-all/

    Ms. Rittenhouse claims on the podcast that two of #FightBack’s leaders—Wood and conservative firebrand John Pierce—latched onto her son’s case for their own personal reasons.

    “They used Kyle to gain money, gain Twitter followers,” Ms. Rittenhouse told Law&Crime. “I felt now they didn’t care about Kyle.”

    The mother has cut ties with #FightBack to start a new legal defense fund for her son under her control called FreeKyleUSA, and she claims that Wood and Pierce have ignored repeated requests to open up their books.

    “He used my son’s image to make profit off of that. And I asked for an accounting of it. And I never got it. I was ignored,” Ms. Rittenhouse said of Wood in an interview with Law&Crime. “They used a 17-year-old kid’s image for their own political shit.”

    “I asked Lin, where’s the money?” Ms. Rittenhouse recalled separately. “I wanted to see the books, like the accounting books.”

    In an email, Wood denied receiving any request for an audit and said FightBack would be “perfectly willing to undergo any audit required by law.”

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Improviso
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      #62

      https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/the-campaign-to-condemn-kyle-rittenhouse-in-the-court-of-public-opinion

      Pretty much what they did to Sandmann. Look how that turned out.

      We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
      Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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        #63

        The gun was transported across state lines afterwards… Didn’t the boy turn it in to police at his home?

        The Brad

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          The gun was transported across state lines afterwards… Didn’t the boy turn it in to police at his home?

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          #64

          @lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

          The gun was transported across state lines afterwards… Didn’t the boy turn it in to police at his home?

          If that's the case he could be charged. Doesn't matter whether he turned it into the police or not.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Copper
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            • Tucker: By the time Kyle Rittenhouse testified, he already won the case

            • LeBron James mocks Rittenhouse's courtroom tears to millions of followers

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              George K
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              #66

              Also Tucker: "Kyle Rittenhouse shoots and kills child molester."

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG George K

                @improviso said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                BTW, Wood is NOT his lawyer now. It looks like he might have been originally.

                https://lawandcrime.com/exclusive/behind-fightback-untold-tales-of-lin-wood-an-unreported-gun-incident-and-how-kyle-rittenhouses-mother-sees-it-all/

                Ms. Rittenhouse claims on the podcast that two of #FightBack’s leaders—Wood and conservative firebrand John Pierce—latched onto her son’s case for their own personal reasons.

                “They used Kyle to gain money, gain Twitter followers,” Ms. Rittenhouse told Law&Crime. “I felt now they didn’t care about Kyle.”

                The mother has cut ties with #FightBack to start a new legal defense fund for her son under her control called FreeKyleUSA, and she claims that Wood and Pierce have ignored repeated requests to open up their books.

                “He used my son’s image to make profit off of that. And I asked for an accounting of it. And I never got it. I was ignored,” Ms. Rittenhouse said of Wood in an interview with Law&Crime. “They used a 17-year-old kid’s image for their own political shit.”

                “I asked Lin, where’s the money?” Ms. Rittenhouse recalled separately. “I wanted to see the books, like the accounting books.”

                In an email, Wood denied receiving any request for an audit and said FightBack would be “perfectly willing to undergo any audit required by law.”

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                jon-nyc
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                #67

                @george-k said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                “They used Kyle to gain money, gain Twitter followers,” Ms. Rittenhouse told Law&Crime. “I felt now they didn’t care about Kyle.”

                Say it ain’t so, Lin!

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • JollyJ Offline
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                  #68

                  Public opinion...

                  https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/crime/rittenhouse_trial_most_democrats_think_kenosha_shooter_guilty_others_disagree

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    #69

                    Andrew McCarthy on the open-carry:

                    Openly carrying a rifle, as he was doing, is generally legal in Wisconsin — where a friend, who was also armed and seeking to protect property, gave Rittenhouse the gun to protect himself that night. The prosecutors counter that, having not yet attained the age of 18 at the time, Rittenhouse’s possession was unlawful — a misdemeanor. But the controlling statute, a densely worded muddle that prohibits most gun possession by minors, appears to exempt long guns. The law is so vague, in any event, that a conviction based on it is apt to be constitutionally unstable.

                    Responsible prosecutors don’t charge offenses based on statutes they cannot explain, and the prosecutors can’t explain the pertinent exemptions. Moreover, to the limited extent that Rittenhouse’s appearance should have any bearing on the case — and criminal charges focus on the operation of the accused’s mind, not spectators’ perception of the accused — his open carrying of a long gun was neither more nor less provocative than the perfectly lawful open-carrying by those on the streets who were over 18. Indeed, it was more benign than the illegal concealed-carrying of a handgun by the state’s star witnesses, over which — surprise! — the prosecutors have not filed charges.

                    So why is the state so insistent on stacking a minor, selective, incomprehensibly vague misdemeanor gun-possession charge on a defendant who is facing so much potential imprisonment on murder and attempted-murder charges that he’d have to live three or four lifetimes to serve the sentence prosecutors are hoping for?

                    Because the prosecutors know they have no case. They need the misdemeanor to distort reality such that they’ll be able to hoodwink the jury . . . if the judge is sufficiently cowed to let them get away with it by letting the misdemeanor count stand.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • JollyJ Offline
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                      Boy, you talk about a lyin' sack of shit...

                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/kyle-rittenhouse-was-an-active-shooter-according-to-wounded-paramedic/ar-AAQAFBC?ocid=msedgntp

                      Active shooters don't discriminately only shoot the people that are trying to kill them. Nor do they walk towards the police to give themselves up. Nor do they try to get help for the people they've shot.

                      I understand NBC and their maniacal anti-gun focus. They've been that way for decades. But this is a helluva stretch, even by their standards...

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        George K
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #71

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • LuFins DadL Offline
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                          LuFins Dad
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                          Well the words were already typed, no use in letting them go to waste…

                          The Brad

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                          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                            Well the words were already typed, no use in letting them go to waste…

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                            @lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                            Well the words were already typed, no use in letting them go to waste…

                            If the young man is acquitted, I think the MSM should pay for any damages due to riots they helped incite.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • George KG George K

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                              @george-k said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                              How is that not libel?

                              I was only joking

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                              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                @george-k said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                How is that not libel?

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                                @doctor-phibes said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                @george-k said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                How is that not libel?

                                With a good lawyer, I think it is.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  @doctor-phibes said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                  @george-k said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                  How is that not libel?

                                  With a good lawyer, I think it is.

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                                  @jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                  With a good lawyer, I think it is.

                                  In the UK, I'm pretty sure they'd be done for contempt of court if they wrote that, as would much of the US media for all the bullshit they're writing.

                                  I was only joking

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                                    Read literally, it implies the Mr Rhittenhause used the word murder. Maybe he did? If not then yes of course just more leftist outrage messaging from journalists who probably lack self awareness of why the choose their words as the do. These are, after all, merely humans.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      Read literally, it implies the Mr Rhittenhause used the word murder. Maybe he did? If not then yes of course just more leftist outrage messaging from journalists who probably lack self awareness of why the choose their words as the do. These are, after all, merely humans.

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                                      @horace said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                      Read literally, it implies the Mr Rhittenhause used the word murder. Maybe he did? If not then yes of course just more leftist outrage messaging from journalists who probably lack self awareness of why the choose their words as the do. These are, after all, merely humans.

                                      It strikes me that you need better laws covering the reporting of court cases, and, I would humbly suggest, a better understanding by the general public and media at large that murder trials aren't conducted primarily for their entertainment.

                                      I appreciate that daytime TV is a bit shit, but there's got to be some kind of alternative.

                                      It might also help if you deported Nancy Grace to Australia.

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                        @horace said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                        Read literally, it implies the Mr Rhittenhause used the word murder. Maybe he did? If not then yes of course just more leftist outrage messaging from journalists who probably lack self awareness of why the choose their words as the do. These are, after all, merely humans.

                                        It strikes me that you need better laws covering the reporting of court cases, and, I would humbly suggest, a better understanding by the general public and media at large that murder trials aren't conducted primarily for their entertainment.

                                        I appreciate that daytime TV is a bit shit, but there's got to be some kind of alternative.

                                        It might also help if you deported Nancy Grace to Australia.

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                                        George K
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                                        #79

                                        From the liveblog:

                                        LOL of the Day for #KyleRittenhouse trial:

                                        ADA Binger telling a witness that he's not a real journalist because real journalists don't put their opinions into their news stories.

                                        Hahahahahahahahaha! This, in one of the most news-propagandized trials I've ever seen.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          LuFins Dad
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                                          This is why we can't have nice things...
                                          https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/11/bruce-schroeder-kyle-rittenhouse-kenosha-trial

                                          There are hundreds of stories out there like this. Stay safe, George!

                                          The Brad

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