The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha

[Improviso]

"When you start manufacturing facts to support false accusations, you get into trouble under the law of defamation."

When this is all said and done, I wonder who comes out richer?

Nicholas Sandmann or Rittenhouse?

[Jolly]

@jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

@george-k you could have quoted the second half of my post George. I haven’t followed this, I assumed Jolly had and he mentioned transport.

I was going by the news reports. Court testimony has been different.

[George K]

@improviso said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

BTW, Wood is NOT his lawyer now. It looks like he might have been originally.

https://lawandcrime.com/exclusive/behind-fightback-untold-tales-of-lin-wood-an-unreported-gun-incident-and-how-kyle-rittenhouses-mother-sees-it-all/

Ms. Rittenhouse claims on the podcast that two of #FightBack’s leaders—Wood and conservative firebrand John Pierce—latched onto her son’s case for their own personal reasons.

“They used Kyle to gain money, gain Twitter followers,” Ms. Rittenhouse told Law&Crime. “I felt now they didn’t care about Kyle.”

The mother has cut ties with #FightBack to start a new legal defense fund for her son under her control called FreeKyleUSA, and she claims that Wood and Pierce have ignored repeated requests to open up their books.

“He used my son’s image to make profit off of that. And I asked for an accounting of it. And I never got it. I was ignored,” Ms. Rittenhouse said of Wood in an interview with Law&Crime. “They used a 17-year-old kid’s image for their own political shit.”

“I asked Lin, where’s the money?” Ms. Rittenhouse recalled separately. “I wanted to see the books, like the accounting books.”

In an email, Wood denied receiving any request for an audit and said FightBack would be “perfectly willing to undergo any audit required by law.”

[Improviso]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/the-campaign-to-condemn-kyle-rittenhouse-in-the-court-of-public-opinion

Pretty much what they did to Sandmann. Look how that turned out.

[LuFins Dad]

The gun was transported across state lines afterwards… Didn’t the boy turn it in to police at his home?

[Jolly]

@lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

The gun was transported across state lines afterwards… Didn’t the boy turn it in to police at his home?

If that's the case he could be charged. Doesn't matter whether he turned it into the police or not.

[Copper]

• Tucker: By the time Kyle Rittenhouse testified, he already won the case

• LeBron James mocks Rittenhouse's courtroom tears to millions of followers

[George K]

Also Tucker: "Kyle Rittenhouse shoots and kills child molester."

[jon-nyc]

@george-k said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

“They used Kyle to gain money, gain Twitter followers,” Ms. Rittenhouse told Law&Crime. “I felt now they didn’t care about Kyle.”

Say it ain’t so, Lin!

[Jolly]

Public opinion...

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/crime/rittenhouse_trial_most_democrats_think_kenosha_shooter_guilty_others_disagree

[George K]

Andrew McCarthy on the open-carry:

Openly carrying a rifle, as he was doing, is generally legal in Wisconsin — where a friend, who was also armed and seeking to protect property, gave Rittenhouse the gun to protect himself that night. The prosecutors counter that, having not yet attained the age of 18 at the time, Rittenhouse’s possession was unlawful — a misdemeanor. But the controlling statute, a densely worded muddle that prohibits most gun possession by minors, appears to exempt long guns. The law is so vague, in any event, that a conviction based on it is apt to be constitutionally unstable.

Responsible prosecutors don’t charge offenses based on statutes they cannot explain, and the prosecutors can’t explain the pertinent exemptions. Moreover, to the limited extent that Rittenhouse’s appearance should have any bearing on the case — and criminal charges focus on the operation of the accused’s mind, not spectators’ perception of the accused — his open carrying of a long gun was neither more nor less provocative than the perfectly lawful open-carrying by those on the streets who were over 18. Indeed, it was more benign than the illegal concealed-carrying of a handgun by the state’s star witnesses, over which — surprise! — the prosecutors have not filed charges.

So why is the state so insistent on stacking a minor, selective, incomprehensibly vague misdemeanor gun-possession charge on a defendant who is facing so much potential imprisonment on murder and attempted-murder charges that he’d have to live three or four lifetimes to serve the sentence prosecutors are hoping for?

Because the prosecutors know they have no case. They need the misdemeanor to distort reality such that they’ll be able to hoodwink the jury . . . if the judge is sufficiently cowed to let them get away with it by letting the misdemeanor count stand.

[Jolly]

Boy, you talk about a lyin' sack of shit...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/kyle-rittenhouse-was-an-active-shooter-according-to-wounded-paramedic/ar-AAQAFBC?ocid=msedgntp

Active shooters don't discriminately only shoot the people that are trying to kill them. Nor do they walk towards the police to give themselves up. Nor do they try to get help for the people they've shot.

I understand NBC and their maniacal anti-gun focus. They've been that way for decades. But this is a helluva stretch, even by their standards...

[George K]

[LuFins Dad]

Well the words were already typed, no use in letting them go to waste…

[Jolly]

@lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

Well the words were already typed, no use in letting them go to waste…

If the young man is acquitted, I think the MSM should pay for any damages due to riots they helped incite.

[Doctor Phibes]

@george-k said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

How is that not libel?

[Jolly]

@doctor-phibes said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

@george-k said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

How is that not libel?

With a good lawyer, I think it is.

[Doctor Phibes]

@jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

With a good lawyer, I think it is.

In the UK, I'm pretty sure they'd be done for contempt of court if they wrote that, as would much of the US media for all the bullshit they're writing.

[Horace]

Read literally, it implies the Mr Rhittenhause used the word murder. Maybe he did? If not then yes of course just more leftist outrage messaging from journalists who probably lack self awareness of why the choose their words as the do. These are, after all, merely humans.

[Doctor Phibes]

@horace said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

Read literally, it implies the Mr Rhittenhause used the word murder. Maybe he did? If not then yes of course just more leftist outrage messaging from journalists who probably lack self awareness of why the choose their words as the do. These are, after all, merely humans.

It strikes me that you need better laws covering the reporting of court cases, and, I would humbly suggest, a better understanding by the general public and media at large that murder trials aren't conducted primarily for their entertainment.

I appreciate that daytime TV is a bit shit, but there's got to be some kind of alternative.

It might also help if you deported Nancy Grace to Australia.