The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha
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@george-k you could have quoted the second half of my post George. I haven’t followed this, I assumed Jolly had and he mentioned transport.
wrote on 11 Nov 2021, 12:34 last edited by@jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
@george-k you could have quoted the second half of my post George.
Where you said, "(Assuming they can show the gun was transported from IL, last I recall that was in question but I haven’t followed this at all or read anything about it since last year)"?
I didn't because you said you didn't know or that it was unclear, so I tried to clarify.
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But...
https://heavy.com/news/2020/08/how-did-kyle-rittenhouse-have-gun/
A 17-year-old can’t legally own a firearm in Wisconsin except for hunting purposes and with the permission of a legal guardian, according to the Giffords Law Center. In Illinois, where Rittenhouse lives, people under 21 can only own a gun legally if a parent or guardian who meets the eligibility criteria to own a gun signs off on their child owning a gun.
Lin Wood!
open carry is legal in Wisconsin, but not for minors.
wrote on 11 Nov 2021, 12:34 last edited by"When you start manufacturing facts to support false accusations, you get into trouble under the law of defamation."
When this is all said and done, I wonder who comes out richer?
Nicholas Sandmann or Rittenhouse?
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@george-k you could have quoted the second half of my post George. I haven’t followed this, I assumed Jolly had and he mentioned transport.
wrote on 11 Nov 2021, 12:35 last edited by@jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
@george-k you could have quoted the second half of my post George. I haven’t followed this, I assumed Jolly had and he mentioned transport.
I was going by the news reports. Court testimony has been different.
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"When you start manufacturing facts to support false accusations, you get into trouble under the law of defamation."
When this is all said and done, I wonder who comes out richer?
Nicholas Sandmann or Rittenhouse?
wrote on 11 Nov 2021, 12:39 last edited by George K 11 Nov 2021, 12:41@improviso said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
BTW, Wood is NOT his lawyer now. It looks like he might have been originally.
Ms. Rittenhouse claims on the podcast that two of #FightBack’s leaders—Wood and conservative firebrand John Pierce—latched onto her son’s case for their own personal reasons.
“They used Kyle to gain money, gain Twitter followers,” Ms. Rittenhouse told Law&Crime. “I felt now they didn’t care about Kyle.”
The mother has cut ties with #FightBack to start a new legal defense fund for her son under her control called FreeKyleUSA, and she claims that Wood and Pierce have ignored repeated requests to open up their books.
“He used my son’s image to make profit off of that. And I asked for an accounting of it. And I never got it. I was ignored,” Ms. Rittenhouse said of Wood in an interview with Law&Crime. “They used a 17-year-old kid’s image for their own political shit.”
“I asked Lin, where’s the money?” Ms. Rittenhouse recalled separately. “I wanted to see the books, like the accounting books.”
In an email, Wood denied receiving any request for an audit and said FightBack would be “perfectly willing to undergo any audit required by law.”
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wrote on 11 Nov 2021, 12:44 last edited by Improviso 11 Nov 2021, 12:45
Pretty much what they did to Sandmann. Look how that turned out.
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wrote on 11 Nov 2021, 12:49 last edited by
The gun was transported across state lines afterwards… Didn’t the boy turn it in to police at his home?
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The gun was transported across state lines afterwards… Didn’t the boy turn it in to police at his home?
wrote on 11 Nov 2021, 13:25 last edited by@lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
The gun was transported across state lines afterwards… Didn’t the boy turn it in to police at his home?
If that's the case he could be charged. Doesn't matter whether he turned it into the police or not.
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wrote on 11 Nov 2021, 13:33 last edited by
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Tucker: By the time Kyle Rittenhouse testified, he already won the case
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LeBron James mocks Rittenhouse's courtroom tears to millions of followers
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wrote on 11 Nov 2021, 13:44 last edited by
Also Tucker: "Kyle Rittenhouse shoots and kills child molester."
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@improviso said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
BTW, Wood is NOT his lawyer now. It looks like he might have been originally.
Ms. Rittenhouse claims on the podcast that two of #FightBack’s leaders—Wood and conservative firebrand John Pierce—latched onto her son’s case for their own personal reasons.
“They used Kyle to gain money, gain Twitter followers,” Ms. Rittenhouse told Law&Crime. “I felt now they didn’t care about Kyle.”
The mother has cut ties with #FightBack to start a new legal defense fund for her son under her control called FreeKyleUSA, and she claims that Wood and Pierce have ignored repeated requests to open up their books.
“He used my son’s image to make profit off of that. And I asked for an accounting of it. And I never got it. I was ignored,” Ms. Rittenhouse said of Wood in an interview with Law&Crime. “They used a 17-year-old kid’s image for their own political shit.”
“I asked Lin, where’s the money?” Ms. Rittenhouse recalled separately. “I wanted to see the books, like the accounting books.”
In an email, Wood denied receiving any request for an audit and said FightBack would be “perfectly willing to undergo any audit required by law.”
wrote on 11 Nov 2021, 13:51 last edited by jon-nyc 11 Nov 2021, 13:51@george-k said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
“They used Kyle to gain money, gain Twitter followers,” Ms. Rittenhouse told Law&Crime. “I felt now they didn’t care about Kyle.”
Say it ain’t so, Lin!
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wrote on 11 Nov 2021, 15:24 last edited by
Andrew McCarthy on the open-carry:
Openly carrying a rifle, as he was doing, is generally legal in Wisconsin — where a friend, who was also armed and seeking to protect property, gave Rittenhouse the gun to protect himself that night. The prosecutors counter that, having not yet attained the age of 18 at the time, Rittenhouse’s possession was unlawful — a misdemeanor. But the controlling statute, a densely worded muddle that prohibits most gun possession by minors, appears to exempt long guns. The law is so vague, in any event, that a conviction based on it is apt to be constitutionally unstable.
Responsible prosecutors don’t charge offenses based on statutes they cannot explain, and the prosecutors can’t explain the pertinent exemptions. Moreover, to the limited extent that Rittenhouse’s appearance should have any bearing on the case — and criminal charges focus on the operation of the accused’s mind, not spectators’ perception of the accused — his open carrying of a long gun was neither more nor less provocative than the perfectly lawful open-carrying by those on the streets who were over 18. Indeed, it was more benign than the illegal concealed-carrying of a handgun by the state’s star witnesses, over which — surprise! — the prosecutors have not filed charges.
So why is the state so insistent on stacking a minor, selective, incomprehensibly vague misdemeanor gun-possession charge on a defendant who is facing so much potential imprisonment on murder and attempted-murder charges that he’d have to live three or four lifetimes to serve the sentence prosecutors are hoping for?
Because the prosecutors know they have no case. They need the misdemeanor to distort reality such that they’ll be able to hoodwink the jury . . . if the judge is sufficiently cowed to let them get away with it by letting the misdemeanor count stand.
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wrote on 11 Nov 2021, 17:11 last edited by
Boy, you talk about a lyin' sack of shit...
Active shooters don't discriminately only shoot the people that are trying to kill them. Nor do they walk towards the police to give themselves up. Nor do they try to get help for the people they've shot.
I understand NBC and their maniacal anti-gun focus. They've been that way for decades. But this is a helluva stretch, even by their standards...
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wrote on 11 Nov 2021, 17:16 last edited by
Well the words were already typed, no use in letting them go to waste…
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Well the words were already typed, no use in letting them go to waste…
wrote on 11 Nov 2021, 17:58 last edited by@lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
Well the words were already typed, no use in letting them go to waste…
If the young man is acquitted, I think the MSM should pay for any damages due to riots they helped incite.
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wrote on 11 Nov 2021, 18:00 last edited by Doctor Phibes 11 Nov 2021, 18:01
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@doctor-phibes said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
@george-k said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
How is that not libel?
With a good lawyer, I think it is.
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@doctor-phibes said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
@george-k said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
How is that not libel?
With a good lawyer, I think it is.
wrote on 11 Nov 2021, 18:02 last edited by Doctor Phibes 11 Nov 2021, 18:03@jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
With a good lawyer, I think it is.
In the UK, I'm pretty sure they'd be done for contempt of court if they wrote that, as would much of the US media for all the bullshit they're writing.
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wrote on 11 Nov 2021, 18:46 last edited by
Read literally, it implies the Mr Rhittenhause used the word murder. Maybe he did? If not then yes of course just more leftist outrage messaging from journalists who probably lack self awareness of why the choose their words as the do. These are, after all, merely humans.
