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  • George KG George K

    Also, regarding provocation:

    The FIRST person to attack Rittenhouse was the "Ziminskies" (sp?). He heard gunshots coming from them, and BInger plans to prosecute them. When he started to run from the sound of gunshots, Rosenbaum chased him and threw something at him. When cornered at the car dealership, he shot Rosenbaum, killing him.

    Interestingly (?) the state's evidence of that has cropped the Ziminskies out of the video.

    That's prosecutorial misconduct, because it gets rid of the reason for Rittenhouse having the state of mind in which he was at the time.

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    @george-k said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

    Also, regarding provocation:

    The FIRST person to attack Rittenhouse was the "Ziminskies" (sp?). He heard gunshots coming from them, and BInger plans to prosecute them. When he started to run from the sound of gunshots, Rosenbaum chased him and threw something at him. When cornered at the car dealership, he shot Rosenbaum, killing him.

    Interestingly (?) the state's evidence of that has cropped the Ziminskies out of the video.

    That's prosecutorial misconduct, because it gets rid of the reason for Rittenhouse having the state of mind in which he was at the time.

    Oh, it gets better...Ziminski was charged with arson by the DA and is awaiting trial. As such, he was unable to testify in the Rittenhouse trial. He was not charged with arson until this year. Ziminski has stated he fired a "warning shot" into the air, which would have been the first shot fired.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Now...Did the DA's office manipulate video on purpose? The theory emerges on this podcast:

      Link to video

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • George KG George K

        Kenosha "Hero" identified.

        https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10217197/Jump-kick-man-filmed-kicking-Kyle-Rittenhouse-head-revealed.html

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        @george-k said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

        Kenosha "Hero" identified.

        https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10217197/Jump-kick-man-filmed-kicking-Kyle-Rittenhouse-head-revealed.html

        Whoopsie!

        Throughout the trial of Kyle Rittenhouse, one of the alleged “victims” was known only as “jump kick man” and identified only by his action and his pants. It now turns out that the prosecutors knew not only who he was but where he was before the trial. The question is whether the defense was informed that “jump kick man” was actually Maurice Freeland, 39.

        The video played at trial appears to show Freeland running at Rittenhouse and kicking him shortly after Rittenhouse shot and killed Joseph Rosenbaum. Rittenhouse insisted that he shot at Freeland in self-defense.

        The incident became Count 3 against Rittenhouse for first-degree recklessly endangering safety, use of a dangerous weapon. That count carries a possible prison term of 12 1/2 years in prison with the possible addition of five more years on the weapon element.

        Once the prosecutors were forced to drop the sixth count on unlawful possession, the third count became arguably their best chance for a compromise verdict.

        While the prosecutors would likely object, the defense could have sought to introduce Freeland’s record (particularly for any impeachment effort). He has a lengthy criminal history in Wisconsin, including charges for battery, disorderly conduct and driving while intoxicated this year. That means that all of the alleged victims had criminal records. In Freeland’s case, he has an open criminal complaint for domestic violence for an attack on his partner in a drunken rage, ultimately throwing her to the ground and kicking her in her ribcage before she managed to flee. He has various violent offenses in his record as well as escaping from custody and parole violations.

        There is no confirmation whether this information was withheld from the defense. That would be a serious violation, if true. It would add to a lengthening list of blunders and alleged violations committed by the prosecution.

        Not only did the DA know who this guy was, one of the prosecutors, Krauss, had prosecuted him in the past.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Mistrial. For multiple reasons.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Now...Did the DA's office manipulate video on purpose? The theory emerges on this podcast:

            Link to video

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            @jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

            The theory emerges on this podcast:

            tl;dl

            Where, in the 2 hour podcast, do they talk about this?

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              @jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

              The theory emerges on this podcast:

              tl;dl

              Where, in the 2 hour podcast, do they talk about this?

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              @george-k said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

              @jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

              The theory emerges on this podcast:

              tl;dl

              Where, in the 2 hour podcast, do they talk about this?

              Somewhere around the 25 minute mark or just a minute later...

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                George K
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                #180

                Branca: "I see FOX News is reporting that yesterday Rittenhouse defense told them that prosecution always knew who “jump kick man” was and withheld that information."

                https://www.foxnews.com/us/kyle-rittenhouse-trial-identity-of-mysterious-jump-kick-man-revealed

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                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  cnn:

                  The jury has reached a verdict in the homicide trial of Kyle Rittenhouse, the teenager accused of killing two people and shooting another during unrest in Kenosha, Wisconsin, last summer.

                  The verdict will be read in court shortly.

                  Rittenhouse, now 18, is charged with five felonies.

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                    Not guilty on all 5 counts.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      "Biggest mistake by the state was not accepting the motion for a mistrial without prejudice. They knew things weren't going well, and they should have take it, with another try to convict."

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        George K
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                        Perjury?

                        These guys didn't know that Rittenhouse was there, on the other side of the van?

                        And as the tweet says, the DA knew of this footage.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG George K

                          Not guilty on all 5 counts.

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                          @george-k said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                          Not guilty on all 5 counts.

                          As it should be

                          Now, the kid needs to sue the crap out of some people and keep his nose clean.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            Good news.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              Is the twitverse exploding?

                              The Brad

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                                Is the twitverse exploding?

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                                @lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                Is the twitverse exploding?

                                Not my feed but that’s pretty selective.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  From lb:

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                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    The bars in Kenosha are already running specials...3 shots of whiskey for $6.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      George K
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                                      "ACLU @ACLU
                                      Despite Kyle Rittenhouse's conscious decision to travel across state lines and injure one person and take the lives of two people protesting the shooting of Jacob Blake by police, he was not held responsible for his actions.

                                      Unfortunately, this is not surprising."

                                      "Ben Rhodes @brhodes
                                      A very dark message sent to all the other heavily armed would-be vigilantes out there."

                                      "Mayor Bill de Blasio @NYCMayor
                                      Anthony Huber and Joseph Rosenbaum are victims. They should be alive today.

                                      The only reason they’re not is because a violent, dangerous man chose to take a gun across state lines and start shooting people.

                                      To call this a miscarriage of justice is an understatement."

                                      Lawyer up, guys.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          Headline at MSNBC.com: (Front and center, biggest font on the page:)

                                          Kyle Rittenhouse trial was designed to protect white conservatives who kill

                                          That's the news. The opinion is the fact that he was acquitted.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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