Bill Maher - Words Matter
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Saw that and liked it.
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@klaus said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
Saw that and liked it.
Supposedly, he's being branded as a "conservative" now.
Jeebus.
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Bill done got religion!
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Just a matter of picking a side in a culture war. Doing so can be more or less courageous or principled or opportunistic. Or not picking a side can be opportunistic or lazy. I just look forward to the next time I'm reminded by someone that both sides are wrong, and moreover, miraculously equally wrong - that's the mark of true enlightenment.
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Just a matter of picking a side in a culture war. Doing so can be more or less courageous or principled or opportunistic. Or not picking a side can be opportunistic or lazy. I just look forward to the next time I'm reminded by someone that both sides are wrong, and moreover, miraculously equally wrong - that's the mark of true enlightenment.
wrote on 31 Oct 2021, 15:32 last edited by@horace said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
Just a matter of picking a side in a culture war. Doing so can be more or less courageous or principled or opportunistic. Or not picking a side can be opportunistic or lazy. I just look forward to the next time I'm reminded by someone that both sides are wrong, and moreover, miraculously equally wrong - that's the mark of true enlightenment.
In this climate, skepticism is at least a huge step up from picking a side.
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@horace said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
Just a matter of picking a side in a culture war. Doing so can be more or less courageous or principled or opportunistic. Or not picking a side can be opportunistic or lazy. I just look forward to the next time I'm reminded by someone that both sides are wrong, and moreover, miraculously equally wrong - that's the mark of true enlightenment.
In this climate, skepticism is at least a huge step up from picking a side.
wrote on 31 Oct 2021, 15:37 last edited by@aqua-letifer said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@horace said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
Just a matter of picking a side in a culture war. Doing so can be more or less courageous or principled or opportunistic. Or not picking a side can be opportunistic or lazy. I just look forward to the next time I'm reminded by someone that both sides are wrong, and moreover, miraculously equally wrong - that's the mark of true enlightenment.
In this climate, skepticism is at least a huge step up from picking a side.
I have an issue with those who's default position of "both sides are equally stupid" appears to be as religious as any tribalist.
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@klaus said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
Saw that and liked it.
Supposedly, he's being branded as a "conservative" now.
Jeebus.
wrote on 31 Oct 2021, 15:38 last edited by@george-k said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@klaus said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
Saw that and liked it.
Supposedly, he's being branded as a "conservative" now.
Jeebus.
So common sense is conservatism now?
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@george-k said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@klaus said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
Saw that and liked it.
Supposedly, he's being branded as a "conservative" now.
Jeebus.
So common sense is conservatism now?
wrote on 31 Oct 2021, 15:40 last edited by@mik said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@george-k said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@klaus said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
Saw that and liked it.
Supposedly, he's being branded as a "conservative" now.
Jeebus.
So common sense is conservatism now?
To those who want to marginalize common sense, sure. Clearly, portions of leftist pop culture are at peril if common sense is to be deployed. Common sense is a threat.
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@aqua-letifer said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@horace said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
Just a matter of picking a side in a culture war. Doing so can be more or less courageous or principled or opportunistic. Or not picking a side can be opportunistic or lazy. I just look forward to the next time I'm reminded by someone that both sides are wrong, and moreover, miraculously equally wrong - that's the mark of true enlightenment.
In this climate, skepticism is at least a huge step up from picking a side.
I have an issue with those who's default position of "both sides are equally stupid" appears to be as religious as any tribalist.
wrote on 31 Oct 2021, 15:40 last edited by@horace said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@aqua-letifer said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@horace said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
Just a matter of picking a side in a culture war. Doing so can be more or less courageous or principled or opportunistic. Or not picking a side can be opportunistic or lazy. I just look forward to the next time I'm reminded by someone that both sides are wrong, and moreover, miraculously equally wrong - that's the mark of true enlightenment.
In this climate, skepticism is at least a huge step up from picking a side.
I have an issue with those who's default position of "both sides are equally stupid" appears to be as religious as any tribalist.
I don't. Liberal tribes are demonizing white males, religion, and history. Conservative tribes are anti-medicine conspiracy theorists. Fuck if I'm going to "pick a side." Knock yourself out.
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@horace said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@aqua-letifer said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@horace said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
Just a matter of picking a side in a culture war. Doing so can be more or less courageous or principled or opportunistic. Or not picking a side can be opportunistic or lazy. I just look forward to the next time I'm reminded by someone that both sides are wrong, and moreover, miraculously equally wrong - that's the mark of true enlightenment.
In this climate, skepticism is at least a huge step up from picking a side.
I have an issue with those who's default position of "both sides are equally stupid" appears to be as religious as any tribalist.
I don't. Liberal tribes are demonizing white males, religion, and history. Conservative tribes are anti-medicine conspiracy theorists. Fuck if I'm going to "pick a side." Knock yourself out.
wrote on 31 Oct 2021, 15:43 last edited by@aqua-letifer said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@horace said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@aqua-letifer said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@horace said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
Just a matter of picking a side in a culture war. Doing so can be more or less courageous or principled or opportunistic. Or not picking a side can be opportunistic or lazy. I just look forward to the next time I'm reminded by someone that both sides are wrong, and moreover, miraculously equally wrong - that's the mark of true enlightenment.
In this climate, skepticism is at least a huge step up from picking a side.
I have an issue with those who's default position of "both sides are equally stupid" appears to be as religious as any tribalist.
I don't. Liberal tribes are demonizing white males, religion, and history. Conservative tribes are anti-medicine conspiracy theorists. Fuck if I'm going to "pick a side." Knock yourself out.
But I have self-identified as picking a side, and yet I'm not an anti-medicine conspiracy theorist. I don't have to conform to your definition of a tribalist. Neither, apparently, does any self-identified conservative on this board.
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Just a matter of picking a side in a culture war. Doing so can be more or less courageous or principled or opportunistic. Or not picking a side can be opportunistic or lazy. I just look forward to the next time I'm reminded by someone that both sides are wrong, and moreover, miraculously equally wrong - that's the mark of true enlightenment.
wrote on 31 Oct 2021, 15:45 last edited by@horace said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
I'm reminded by someone that both sides are wrong, and moreover, miraculously equally wrong - that's the mark of true enlightenment.
Let me guess - Roy Bolger?
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@aqua-letifer said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@horace said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@aqua-letifer said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@horace said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
Just a matter of picking a side in a culture war. Doing so can be more or less courageous or principled or opportunistic. Or not picking a side can be opportunistic or lazy. I just look forward to the next time I'm reminded by someone that both sides are wrong, and moreover, miraculously equally wrong - that's the mark of true enlightenment.
In this climate, skepticism is at least a huge step up from picking a side.
I have an issue with those who's default position of "both sides are equally stupid" appears to be as religious as any tribalist.
I don't. Liberal tribes are demonizing white males, religion, and history. Conservative tribes are anti-medicine conspiracy theorists. Fuck if I'm going to "pick a side." Knock yourself out.
But I have self-identified as picking a side, and yet I'm not an anti-medicine conspiracy theorist. I don't have to conform to your definition of a tribalist. Neither, apparently, does any self-identified conservative on this board.
wrote on 31 Oct 2021, 16:09 last edited by@horace said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@aqua-letifer said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@horace said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@aqua-letifer said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@horace said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
Just a matter of picking a side in a culture war. Doing so can be more or less courageous or principled or opportunistic. Or not picking a side can be opportunistic or lazy. I just look forward to the next time I'm reminded by someone that both sides are wrong, and moreover, miraculously equally wrong - that's the mark of true enlightenment.
In this climate, skepticism is at least a huge step up from picking a side.
I have an issue with those who's default position of "both sides are equally stupid" appears to be as religious as any tribalist.
I don't. Liberal tribes are demonizing white males, religion, and history. Conservative tribes are anti-medicine conspiracy theorists. Fuck if I'm going to "pick a side." Knock yourself out.
But I have self-identified as picking a side, and yet I'm not an anti-medicine conspiracy theorist. I don't have to conform to your definition of a tribalist. Neither, apparently, does any self-identified conservative on this board.
I said conservative tribes, not conservatives.
And if you are critical of the anti-medicine shenanigans prevalent among conservative tribes, then you haven't chosen the anti-medicine conservative side as yours.
We can continue playing this game of exclusionary subsets until the concept of "picking a side" becomes irrelevant.
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@horace said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@aqua-letifer said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@horace said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@aqua-letifer said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@horace said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
Just a matter of picking a side in a culture war. Doing so can be more or less courageous or principled or opportunistic. Or not picking a side can be opportunistic or lazy. I just look forward to the next time I'm reminded by someone that both sides are wrong, and moreover, miraculously equally wrong - that's the mark of true enlightenment.
In this climate, skepticism is at least a huge step up from picking a side.
I have an issue with those who's default position of "both sides are equally stupid" appears to be as religious as any tribalist.
I don't. Liberal tribes are demonizing white males, religion, and history. Conservative tribes are anti-medicine conspiracy theorists. Fuck if I'm going to "pick a side." Knock yourself out.
But I have self-identified as picking a side, and yet I'm not an anti-medicine conspiracy theorist. I don't have to conform to your definition of a tribalist. Neither, apparently, does any self-identified conservative on this board.
I said conservative tribes, not conservatives.
And if you are critical of the anti-medicine shenanigans prevalent among conservative tribes, then you haven't chosen the anti-medicine conservative side as yours.
We can continue playing this game of exclusionary subsets until the concept of "picking a side" becomes irrelevant.
wrote on 31 Oct 2021, 16:21 last edited by@aqua-letifer said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@horace said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@aqua-letifer said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@horace said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@aqua-letifer said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@horace said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
Just a matter of picking a side in a culture war. Doing so can be more or less courageous or principled or opportunistic. Or not picking a side can be opportunistic or lazy. I just look forward to the next time I'm reminded by someone that both sides are wrong, and moreover, miraculously equally wrong - that's the mark of true enlightenment.
In this climate, skepticism is at least a huge step up from picking a side.
I have an issue with those who's default position of "both sides are equally stupid" appears to be as religious as any tribalist.
I don't. Liberal tribes are demonizing white males, religion, and history. Conservative tribes are anti-medicine conspiracy theorists. Fuck if I'm going to "pick a side." Knock yourself out.
But I have self-identified as picking a side, and yet I'm not an anti-medicine conspiracy theorist. I don't have to conform to your definition of a tribalist. Neither, apparently, does any self-identified conservative on this board.
I said conservative tribes, not conservatives.
And if you are critical of the anti-medicine shenanigans prevalent among conservative tribes, then you haven't chosen the anti-medicine conservative side as yours.
We can continue playing this game of exclusionary subsets until the concept of "picking a side" becomes irrelevant.
Good luck saying you're a "conservative" or "liberal" out loud and not having the tribalist attitudes ascribed to you. After all, that's why some people gravitate to "both sides are equally wrong". It sounds thoughtful and it avoids anybody drawing assumptions. Myself, I'm good looking, so people have great assumptions about me no matter what. Sort of like Phibes and his accent. People assume he's sophisticated and smart. I'm like an English accent, except for looks.
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@aqua-letifer said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@horace said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@aqua-letifer said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@horace said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@aqua-letifer said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@horace said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
Just a matter of picking a side in a culture war. Doing so can be more or less courageous or principled or opportunistic. Or not picking a side can be opportunistic or lazy. I just look forward to the next time I'm reminded by someone that both sides are wrong, and moreover, miraculously equally wrong - that's the mark of true enlightenment.
In this climate, skepticism is at least a huge step up from picking a side.
I have an issue with those who's default position of "both sides are equally stupid" appears to be as religious as any tribalist.
I don't. Liberal tribes are demonizing white males, religion, and history. Conservative tribes are anti-medicine conspiracy theorists. Fuck if I'm going to "pick a side." Knock yourself out.
But I have self-identified as picking a side, and yet I'm not an anti-medicine conspiracy theorist. I don't have to conform to your definition of a tribalist. Neither, apparently, does any self-identified conservative on this board.
I said conservative tribes, not conservatives.
And if you are critical of the anti-medicine shenanigans prevalent among conservative tribes, then you haven't chosen the anti-medicine conservative side as yours.
We can continue playing this game of exclusionary subsets until the concept of "picking a side" becomes irrelevant.
Good luck saying you're a "conservative" or "liberal" out loud and not having the tribalist attitudes ascribed to you. After all, that's why some people gravitate to "both sides are equally wrong". It sounds thoughtful and it avoids anybody drawing assumptions. Myself, I'm good looking, so people have great assumptions about me no matter what. Sort of like Phibes and his accent. People assume he's sophisticated and smart. I'm like an English accent, except for looks.
wrote on 31 Oct 2021, 17:03 last edited by@horace said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@aqua-letifer said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@horace said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@aqua-letifer said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@horace said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@aqua-letifer said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@horace said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
Just a matter of picking a side in a culture war. Doing so can be more or less courageous or principled or opportunistic. Or not picking a side can be opportunistic or lazy. I just look forward to the next time I'm reminded by someone that both sides are wrong, and moreover, miraculously equally wrong - that's the mark of true enlightenment.
In this climate, skepticism is at least a huge step up from picking a side.
I have an issue with those who's default position of "both sides are equally stupid" appears to be as religious as any tribalist.
I don't. Liberal tribes are demonizing white males, religion, and history. Conservative tribes are anti-medicine conspiracy theorists. Fuck if I'm going to "pick a side." Knock yourself out.
But I have self-identified as picking a side, and yet I'm not an anti-medicine conspiracy theorist. I don't have to conform to your definition of a tribalist. Neither, apparently, does any self-identified conservative on this board.
I said conservative tribes, not conservatives.
And if you are critical of the anti-medicine shenanigans prevalent among conservative tribes, then you haven't chosen the anti-medicine conservative side as yours.
We can continue playing this game of exclusionary subsets until the concept of "picking a side" becomes irrelevant.
Good luck saying you're a "conservative" or "liberal" out loud and not having the tribalist attitudes ascribed to you. After all, that's why some people gravitate to "both sides are equally wrong". It sounds thoughtful and it avoids anybody drawing assumptions. Myself, I'm good looking, so people have great assumptions about me no matter what. Sort of like Phibes and his accent. People assume he's sophisticated and smart. I'm like an English accent, except for looks.
That's what Joe Internet thinks, though, not what actually is. I just complain about how racistphobic white supremacist my sister is, thereby upping my own virtue. If it's a conservative crowd, then she's a gender-fluid PETA member. -
@horace said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@aqua-letifer said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@horace said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@aqua-letifer said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@horace said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@aqua-letifer said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
@horace said in Bill Maher - Words Matter:
Just a matter of picking a side in a culture war. Doing so can be more or less courageous or principled or opportunistic. Or not picking a side can be opportunistic or lazy. I just look forward to the next time I'm reminded by someone that both sides are wrong, and moreover, miraculously equally wrong - that's the mark of true enlightenment.
In this climate, skepticism is at least a huge step up from picking a side.
I have an issue with those who's default position of "both sides are equally stupid" appears to be as religious as any tribalist.
I don't. Liberal tribes are demonizing white males, religion, and history. Conservative tribes are anti-medicine conspiracy theorists. Fuck if I'm going to "pick a side." Knock yourself out.
But I have self-identified as picking a side, and yet I'm not an anti-medicine conspiracy theorist. I don't have to conform to your definition of a tribalist. Neither, apparently, does any self-identified conservative on this board.
I said conservative tribes, not conservatives.
And if you are critical of the anti-medicine shenanigans prevalent among conservative tribes, then you haven't chosen the anti-medicine conservative side as yours.
We can continue playing this game of exclusionary subsets until the concept of "picking a side" becomes irrelevant.
Good luck saying you're a "conservative" or "liberal" out loud and not having the tribalist attitudes ascribed to you. After all, that's why some people gravitate to "both sides are equally wrong". It sounds thoughtful and it avoids anybody drawing assumptions. Myself, I'm good looking, so people have great assumptions about me no matter what. Sort of like Phibes and his accent. People assume he's sophisticated and smart. I'm like an English accent, except for looks.
That's what Joe Internet thinks, though, not what actually is. I just complain about how racistphobic white supremacist my sister is, thereby upping my own virtue. If it's a conservative crowd, then she's a gender-fluid PETA member.wrote on 31 Oct 2021, 17:18 last edited byShe’s definitely a fan of fluids from any gender.
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