Dune 2021
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@lufins-dad said in Dune 2021:
How is Mamoa as Duncan Idaho?
Excellent. From the books, I never got the "connection" between Luke and Duncan. The movie portrays that pretty well.
Really? I thought that would be one of the worst castings in history…
wrote on 25 Oct 2021, 01:39 last edited by George K@lufins-dad said in Dune 2021:
@lufins-dad said in Dune 2021:
How is Mamoa as Duncan Idaho?
Excellent. From the books, I never got the "connection" between Luke and Duncan. The movie portrays that pretty well.
Really? I thought that would be one of the worst castings in history…
Agreed. But he came off pretty good. It’s a small role in the movie, though, and it worked. Look at the trailer, and you’ll get the idea. There’s really not much more of the character other than his encounter with the Sardoukar in the movie.
I was disappointed to not see more of Thufir and Pieter, however. The Dr. Yueh story was painfully abbreviated as well.
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wrote on 25 Oct 2021, 01:52 last edited by mark
I never read the books or saw any of the movies. You guys have me wanting to get a 30 day trial of HBO Max to see this.
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wrote on 25 Oct 2021, 02:01 last edited by
I can't get Bautista as the lovable goof from Guardians of the Galaxy out of my head when I see him. So, I never bought him as the evil guy. Good movie though, looking forward to the second one.
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I can't get Bautista as the lovable goof from Guardians of the Galaxy out of my head when I see him. So, I never bought him as the evil guy. Good movie though, looking forward to the second one.
wrote on 25 Oct 2021, 02:32 last edited byI can't get Bautista as the lovable goof from Guardians of the Galaxy out of my head when I see him. So, I never bought him as the evil guy. Good movie though, looking forward to the second one.
Oddly, I thought Bautista for Beast Rabban was a brilliant choice. The images that I have seen have confirmed it, in my mind. He looks like Rabban as I pictured him.
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I can't get Bautista as the lovable goof from Guardians of the Galaxy out of my head when I see him. So, I never bought him as the evil guy. Good movie though, looking forward to the second one.
Oddly, I thought Bautista for Beast Rabban was a brilliant choice. The images that I have seen have confirmed it, in my mind. He looks like Rabban as I pictured him.
wrote on 25 Oct 2021, 03:08 last edited by@lufins-dad said in Dune 2021:
I can't get Bautista as the lovable goof from Guardians of the Galaxy out of my head when I see him. So, I never bought him as the evil guy. Good movie though, looking forward to the second one.
Oddly, I thought Bautista for Beast Rabban was a brilliant choice. The images that I have seen have confirmed it, in my mind. He looks like Rabban as I pictured him.
It's a safe bet that I've watched Guardians of the Galaxy 1&2 more than most.
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@lufins-dad said in Dune 2021:
@lufins-dad said in Dune 2021:
How is Mamoa as Duncan Idaho?
Excellent. From the books, I never got the "connection" between Luke and Duncan. The movie portrays that pretty well.
Really? I thought that would be one of the worst castings in history…
Agreed. But he came off pretty good. It’s a small role in the movie, though, and it worked. Look at the trailer, and you’ll get the idea. There’s really not much more of the character other than his encounter with the Sardoukar in the movie.
I was disappointed to not see more of Thufir and Pieter, however. The Dr. Yueh story was painfully abbreviated as well.
wrote on 25 Oct 2021, 06:13 last edited byThe Dr. Yueh story was painfully abbreviated as well.
In the book, does Dr. Yueh speak Chinese/Mandarin? In the first scene with the doctor appears where Yueh examines Paul and warns Paul about the Bene Gesserit, in this movie Yueh speaks in Chinese/Mandarin. I'm trying to figure out if the Mandarin speaking is actually in the book or just the film makers trying to score points with mainland China's movie goers.
When Dr. Hinds leaves to return to the seitch, she stands at the top of a dune, with hooks in each hand, preparing to ride.
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And for those who don't know the story, this is a wonderfully missed detail.I noticed, and I kept hoping to see the scene where they ride the giant worms, but there is no such scene in this movie. Guess they're saving that for the sequel.
Yeah, this new Dune movie is a very good production that is in many ways better than the old Dune movie, but IIRC the old movie got more done in one movie, including the worm riding and worm battle scenes. :man-shrugging:
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The Dr. Yueh story was painfully abbreviated as well.
In the book, does Dr. Yueh speak Chinese/Mandarin? In the first scene with the doctor appears where Yueh examines Paul and warns Paul about the Bene Gesserit, in this movie Yueh speaks in Chinese/Mandarin. I'm trying to figure out if the Mandarin speaking is actually in the book or just the film makers trying to score points with mainland China's movie goers.
When Dr. Hinds leaves to return to the seitch, she stands at the top of a dune, with hooks in each hand, preparing to ride.
...
And for those who don't know the story, this is a wonderfully missed detail.I noticed, and I kept hoping to see the scene where they ride the giant worms, but there is no such scene in this movie. Guess they're saving that for the sequel.
Yeah, this new Dune movie is a very good production that is in many ways better than the old Dune movie, but IIRC the old movie got more done in one movie, including the worm riding and worm battle scenes. :man-shrugging:
wrote on 25 Oct 2021, 12:23 last edited byIn the book, does Dr. Yueh speak Chinese/Mandarin? In the first scene with the doctor appears where Yueh examines Paul and warns Paul about the Bene Gesserit, in this movie Yueh speaks in Chinese/Mandarin. I'm trying to figure out if the Mandarin speaking is actually in the book or just the film makers trying to score points with mainland China's movie goers.
No. Everyone speaks what we would call "English" in the books, although what language is common among all the houses 20,000 years from now is speculation.
Yeah, this new Dune movie is a very good production that is in many ways better than the old Dune movie, but IIRC the old movie got more done in one movie, including the worm riding and worm battle scenes. :man-shrugging:
I'm sure you'll see a lot of that in the concluding chapter.
More thoughts:
Another thing I liked is the allusions to things that are not explicitly in the book, but are just hinted at.
For example, the aversion to "thinking machines" is there, though not explicitly explained. Almost everything seems analog. No screens, buttons to tap, etc. You have to go back to the Butlerian Jihad to really understand the reasoning behind that. In the movie, you just wonder "Why is it like that."
I wish they had spent more time explaining the role of the Mentats, (Peiter and Thufir). If one's not familiar with the books, it can be confusing: "Who are those guys with the nictitating membranes?"
As I said, the Dr. Yueh story was abbreviated, I imagine for time's sake. The backstory of his wife would have made his betrayal much more interesting. Similarly, Gurney's suspicion of Jessica being the traitor was not even mentioned.
Vladimir Harkonnen's OTHER nephew, Feyd-Rautha, who plays a major role in the end of the story is hardly mentioned. I hope this character isn't deleted.
Harkonnen sure comes off as the bad guy/antagonist in the movie, but his sadistic nature isn't really touched upon.
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In the book, does Dr. Yueh speak Chinese/Mandarin? In the first scene with the doctor appears where Yueh examines Paul and warns Paul about the Bene Gesserit, in this movie Yueh speaks in Chinese/Mandarin. I'm trying to figure out if the Mandarin speaking is actually in the book or just the film makers trying to score points with mainland China's movie goers.
No. Everyone speaks what we would call "English" in the books, although what language is common among all the houses 20,000 years from now is speculation.
Yeah, this new Dune movie is a very good production that is in many ways better than the old Dune movie, but IIRC the old movie got more done in one movie, including the worm riding and worm battle scenes. :man-shrugging:
I'm sure you'll see a lot of that in the concluding chapter.
More thoughts:
Another thing I liked is the allusions to things that are not explicitly in the book, but are just hinted at.
For example, the aversion to "thinking machines" is there, though not explicitly explained. Almost everything seems analog. No screens, buttons to tap, etc. You have to go back to the Butlerian Jihad to really understand the reasoning behind that. In the movie, you just wonder "Why is it like that."
I wish they had spent more time explaining the role of the Mentats, (Peiter and Thufir). If one's not familiar with the books, it can be confusing: "Who are those guys with the nictitating membranes?"
As I said, the Dr. Yueh story was abbreviated, I imagine for time's sake. The backstory of his wife would have made his betrayal much more interesting. Similarly, Gurney's suspicion of Jessica being the traitor was not even mentioned.
Vladimir Harkonnen's OTHER nephew, Feyd-Rautha, who plays a major role in the end of the story is hardly mentioned. I hope this character isn't deleted.
Harkonnen sure comes off as the bad guy/antagonist in the movie, but his sadistic nature isn't really touched upon.
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wrote on 25 Oct 2021, 22:21 last edited by
Finished it today. Really liked it. Sci-fi done right.
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wrote on 26 Oct 2021, 15:30 last edited by
The director talks about the hand in the box scene:
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wrote on 28 Oct 2021, 20:37 last edited by
The N'Yawk version...
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wrote on 30 Oct 2021, 11:42 last edited by
Science vs Cinema
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wrote on 30 Oct 2021, 12:35 last edited by
Go back and read the book again first, then go see the movie? Or watch the movie and then read the book?
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Go back and read the book again first, then go see the movie? Or watch the movie and then read the book?
wrote on 30 Oct 2021, 12:52 last edited by@lufins-dad said in Dune 2021:
Go back and read the book again first, then go see the movie? Or watch the movie and then read the book?
I've read it 3 times, most recently about a year ago, so it's pretty fresh in my mind.
However, I don't think you'd miss much by seeing the movie first. There are subtle differences, and things the movie skips (Gurney's suspicions of Jessica), but overall, it's a really good adaptation.
See the movie first, then read the book to flesh it out, and then wait two years for the finale.