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  • L Loki
    16 May 2020, 15:29

    @xenon said in Summing up the Gates haters:

    One is based on an incomplete or biased interpretation of Trump’s idiotic comments.

    The other one is based on... nothing at all...

    They are both equally idiotic but look at your rationalization. One is okay and the other isn’t. Sure.

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    xenon
    wrote on 16 May 2020, 15:34 last edited by xenon
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    @Loki i guess my definition of “ok” is interpreting things with incomplete info or bias.

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      16 May 2020, 15:34

      @Loki i guess my definition of “ok” is interpreting things with incomplete info or bias.

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      Loki
      wrote on 16 May 2020, 15:45 last edited by Loki
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      @xenon said in Summing up the Gates haters:

      @Loki i guess my definition of “ok” is interpreting things with incomplete info or bias.

      And my definition of not okay is stupid is stupid. You tolerate and advance stupidity one way and you can expect it to come back and proliferate in other ways. I am simply saying those appalled by the stupidity of the Gates thing should study their own possible contribution to the advancement of stupidity in society.

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        xenon
        wrote on 16 May 2020, 15:50 last edited by xenon
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        The Trump thing is a bad example because some people took a thing that was already stupid and pushed it further to be even stupider.

        It was already stupid, it didn’t need additional fake stupid seasoning salt.

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        • L Loki
          16 May 2020, 15:45

          @xenon said in Summing up the Gates haters:

          @Loki i guess my definition of “ok” is interpreting things with incomplete info or bias.

          And my definition of not okay is stupid is stupid. You tolerate and advance stupidity one way and you can expect it to come back and proliferate in other ways. I am simply saying those appalled by the stupidity of the Gates thing should study their own possible contribution to the advancement of stupidity in society.

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          Aqua Letifer
          wrote on 16 May 2020, 19:17 last edited by
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          @Loki said in Summing up the Gates haters:

          @xenon said in Summing up the Gates haters:

          @Loki i guess my definition of “ok” is interpreting things with incomplete info or bias.

          And my definition of not okay is stupid is stupid. You tolerate and advance stupidity one way and you can expect it to come back and proliferate in other ways. I am simply saying those appalled by the stupidity of the Gates thing should study their own possible contribution to the advancement of stupidity in society.

          Tu quoque is a tired and unsound internet argument. Always has been.

          Please love yourself.

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          • A Aqua Letifer
            16 May 2020, 19:17

            @Loki said in Summing up the Gates haters:

            @xenon said in Summing up the Gates haters:

            @Loki i guess my definition of “ok” is interpreting things with incomplete info or bias.

            And my definition of not okay is stupid is stupid. You tolerate and advance stupidity one way and you can expect it to come back and proliferate in other ways. I am simply saying those appalled by the stupidity of the Gates thing should study their own possible contribution to the advancement of stupidity in society.

            Tu quoque is a tired and unsound internet argument. Always has been.

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            Loki
            wrote on 16 May 2020, 19:49 last edited by
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            @Aqua-Letifer said in Summing up the Gates haters:

            @Loki said in Summing up the Gates haters:

            @xenon said in Summing up the Gates haters:

            @Loki i guess my definition of “ok” is interpreting things with incomplete info or bias.

            And my definition of not okay is stupid is stupid. You tolerate and advance stupidity one way and you can expect it to come back and proliferate in other ways. I am simply saying those appalled by the stupidity of the Gates thing should study their own possible contribution to the advancement of stupidity in society.

            Tu quoque is a tired and unsound internet argument. Always has been.

            That’s fine. So we are to be alarmed at a fringe Gates conspiracy theory but take seriously that injecting with bleach is what was meant and rational people might do I’ll just put in the hilarious bucket.

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              Aqua Letifer
              wrote on 16 May 2020, 19:52 last edited by
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              And again, terrible false equivalence. Trump actually said his thing. We can argue what he meant but only after we acknowledge that you're saying misinterpretation and just completely making shit up are identical.

              Please love yourself.

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                Mik
                wrote on 16 May 2020, 19:54 last edited by
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                No, I have to disagree. What Trump said and how it was presented and interpreted meet my criteria for made up shit too.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 17 May 2020, 04:04 last edited by
                  #29

                  Seen on twitter:

                  Counterpoint: Windows Vista.

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                    Axtremus
                    wrote on 24 May 2020, 02:06 last edited by
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                    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/22/opinion/bill-gates-coronavirus.html

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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on 24 May 2020, 02:09 last edited by
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                      NYT: "Bill Gates Is the Most Interesting Man in the World"

                      Cue another Twitter rant about the failing NYT 😀

                      I was only joking

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                        Larry
                        wrote on 24 May 2020, 02:37 last edited by Larry
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                        Its time you "clorox" guys gave it a rest. If you actually believe that Trump meant you could inject bleach into your body then you are the dumbass, not Trump. Everyone misspeaks occasionally. It is an utter fool who keeps harping it.

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                          Rainman
                          wrote on 24 May 2020, 02:51 last edited by
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                          Damn it, Larry. Now you tell me.

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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on 24 May 2020, 02:59 last edited by
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                            You realize that if Democrats had their way, Gates would have had 90+% of his wealth taxed away and it would have been used to upgrade Obamaphones to iPhone 11s...

                            The Brad

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 24 May 2020, 12:28 last edited by jon-nyc
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                              40% of Republicans and half of Fox News viewers believe this shit? Seems exaggerated, if the number were that high we would have seen some of the usual suspects here at least flirting with the idea.

                              But still, fucking hell.

                              https://www.cnet.com/news/more-than-40-of-republicans-think-bill-gates-will-use-covid-19-vaccine-to-implant-microchips-survey-says/

                              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                              -Cormac McCarthy

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                                Copper
                                wrote on 24 May 2020, 13:11 last edited by Copper
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                                Use covid-19 as a reason or excuse to track?

                                Or use the actual virus itself to track?

                                Is that ambiguity is meant to confuse the issue?

                                Lot's of people want to track everyone and they use the virus as an excuse to do this. And of course they want to use your obamapho, and the chips in it, to do this.

                                It's some nice ambiguous headline writing, it could inflame people for several different reasons.

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                                  24 May 2020, 12:28

                                  40% of Republicans and half of Fox News viewers believe this shit? Seems exaggerated, if the number were that high we would have seen some of the usual suspects here at least flirting with the idea.

                                  But still, fucking hell.

                                  https://www.cnet.com/news/more-than-40-of-republicans-think-bill-gates-will-use-covid-19-vaccine-to-implant-microchips-survey-says/

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                                  Horace
                                  wrote on 24 May 2020, 14:07 last edited by
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                                  @jon-nyc said in Summing up the Gates haters:

                                  40% of Republicans and half of Fox News viewers believe this shit? Seems exaggerated, if the number were that high we would have seen some of the usual suspects here at least flirting with the idea.

                                  But still, fucking hell.

                                  https://www.cnet.com/news/more-than-40-of-republicans-think-bill-gates-will-use-covid-19-vaccine-to-implant-microchips-survey-says/

                                  We'd also see some of the usual suspects post the survey and sneer at at how crazy the right is.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 24 May 2020, 14:09 last edited by
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                                    Sorry - this is objectively bonkers.

                                    Don’t feel the need to circle the wagons with these clowns.

                                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                                    • J jon-nyc
                                      24 May 2020, 14:09

                                      Sorry - this is objectively bonkers.

                                      Don’t feel the need to circle the wagons with these clowns.

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                                      Loki
                                      wrote on 24 May 2020, 14:11 last edited by
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                                      @jon-nyc said in Summing up the Gates haters:

                                      Sorry - this is objectively bonkers.

                                      Don’t feel the need to circle the wagons with these clowns.

                                      So says the group that thought Trump was a Russian Agent.

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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on 24 May 2020, 14:11 last edited by Horace
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                                        Like mask protesters, i feel no need to circle wagons with people I have never personally met. As always, the fringe makes the news and produces the dopamine response in those whose bias that the other tribe is crazy has been confirmed. Include Nazis, KKK, etc in all that. We can agree it's crazy, we don't agree it's meaningful.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 24 May 2020, 14:13 last edited by
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                                          I would agree with you if the poll had indicated it was fringe. It seems more like the modal FoxNews watcher.

                                          FWIW I have trouble believing the data myself.

                                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                          -Cormac McCarthy

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