Summing up the Gates haters
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It's not that uncommon. I've seen two people I knew growing up in England posting about the movie Plandemic. The knee-jerk response about us lefty pop-culture fans laughing at clueless conservatives isn't really accurate here.
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@Horace said in Summing up the Gates haters:
Left leaning pop culture would be joyless if it couldn't scour the internet for the dumbest fringe stuff someone somewhere thinks and then laugh at it because the other tribe is definitely full of folk who think that sort of thing.
Facebook is full of people in earnest saying these things. I'm not talking about screenshots shared for the left to ridicule; they come directly from friends and family members. Here on TNCR, members have insinuated the death toll has been inflated for reasons unexplained.
I'm not laughing about it. The internet's echo chambers are very dangerous here. The left's could cause economic ruin. The right's could cause a whole lot of unnecessary deaths.
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@Horace said in Summing up the Gates haters:
My knee is the smartest part of my body and it is a very quick thinker. It seems to "jerk" from your slower frame of reference but its reactions are well-considered.
And wrong, in this instance.
Proud supporter of Plan 2525. Everything you think, do and say will be in the pill you took today.
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@Horace said in Summing up the Gates haters:
My knee is the smartest part of my body and it is a very quick thinker. It seems to "jerk" from your slower frame of reference but its reactions are well-considered.
The folks who think COVID-19 is a liberal false flag operation (and flat-earthers, and lunar landing conspiracy theorists) use exactly the same argument to support their case.
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The people I've seen linking to the Plandemic stuff aren't stupid. Clearly gullible, but they're basically responding very quickly, without thinking it through, to something they've seen.
And I'm not laughing, either. I engaged with one, and she thanked me for the discussion.
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I had a 'conversation' with a lifelong friend on FB about a bullshit post that shows Obama saying something about the average citizen is too smallminded to govern themselves so must surrender to all powerful government. He did say the words, but as an indication of what he was against, but it was edited to make it appear bad and people are buying it.
I said it was untrue, that what he was actually saying was the opposite, for which I was roundly condemned. He obviously said it and that was that. How could I know any different. I said because I watched the speech IN CONTEXT, not just the cut. Honestly, people are eager to believe what they want to believe. But if 'Republicans' post crap like that how can they complain about fake news?
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Both sides have more than their fair share of people who only ever hear what they want to hear. I'm sure we've all been guilty of it on occasion, but for some people it seems to be a calling.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Summing up the Gates haters:
@Horace said in Summing up the Gates haters:
My knee is the smartest part of my body and it is a very quick thinker. It seems to "jerk" from your slower frame of reference but its reactions are well-considered.
And wrong, in this instance.
Duly noted that the Truth is that people thinking Gates is a child murdering anti-christ is Common, with the proof being what Phibes saw on Facebook.
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I'm just talking about my own experience. YMMV. If you live in California, "The
CraziestHappiest Place on Earth (TM)", it probably will.I'm not really a big believer in Truth.
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@xenon said in Summing up the Gates haters:
One is based on an incomplete or biased interpretation of Trump’s idiotic comments.
The other one is based on... nothing at all...
They are both equally idiotic but look at your rationalization. One is okay and the other isn’t. Sure.
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@xenon said in Summing up the Gates haters:
@Loki i guess my definition of “ok” is interpreting things with incomplete info or bias.
And my definition of not okay is stupid is stupid. You tolerate and advance stupidity one way and you can expect it to come back and proliferate in other ways. I am simply saying those appalled by the stupidity of the Gates thing should study their own possible contribution to the advancement of stupidity in society.
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@Loki said in Summing up the Gates haters:
@xenon said in Summing up the Gates haters:
@Loki i guess my definition of “ok” is interpreting things with incomplete info or bias.
And my definition of not okay is stupid is stupid. You tolerate and advance stupidity one way and you can expect it to come back and proliferate in other ways. I am simply saying those appalled by the stupidity of the Gates thing should study their own possible contribution to the advancement of stupidity in society.
Tu quoque is a tired and unsound internet argument. Always has been.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Summing up the Gates haters:
@Loki said in Summing up the Gates haters:
@xenon said in Summing up the Gates haters:
@Loki i guess my definition of “ok” is interpreting things with incomplete info or bias.
And my definition of not okay is stupid is stupid. You tolerate and advance stupidity one way and you can expect it to come back and proliferate in other ways. I am simply saying those appalled by the stupidity of the Gates thing should study their own possible contribution to the advancement of stupidity in society.
Tu quoque is a tired and unsound internet argument. Always has been.
That’s fine. So we are to be alarmed at a fringe Gates conspiracy theory but take seriously that injecting with bleach is what was meant and rational people might do I’ll just put in the hilarious bucket.
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And again, terrible false equivalence. Trump actually said his thing. We can argue what he meant but only after we acknowledge that you're saying misinterpretation and just completely making shit up are identical.
