Another British MP murdered
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wrote on 15 Oct 2021, 14:52 last edited by
@george-k said in Another British MP murdered:
@bachophile said in Another British MP murdered:
Horrible
Indeed.
Motive?
The only details about the suspect I've seen are that he was a 25 year-old man.
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wrote on 15 Oct 2021, 14:55 last edited by
Something cosmically unfair about such an end after a long service.
RIP, Sir David.
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@george-k said in Another British MP murdered:
@bachophile said in Another British MP murdered:
Horrible
Indeed.
Motive?
The only details about the suspect I've seen are that he was a 25 year-old man.
wrote on 15 Oct 2021, 17:03 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:
@george-k said in Another British MP murdered:
@bachophile said in Another British MP murdered:
Horrible
Indeed.
Motive?
The only details about the suspect I've seen are that he was a 25 year-old man.
Muslim?
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@doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:
@george-k said in Another British MP murdered:
@bachophile said in Another British MP murdered:
Horrible
Indeed.
Motive?
The only details about the suspect I've seen are that he was a 25 year-old man.
Muslim?
wrote on 15 Oct 2021, 17:26 last edited by@jolly said in Another British MP murdered:
@doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:
@george-k said in Another British MP murdered:
@bachophile said in Another British MP murdered:
Horrible
Indeed.
Motive?
The only details about the suspect I've seen are that he was a 25 year-old man.
Muslim?
They're not saying anything. He doesn't look like an obvious choice for any kind of politically or terrorist motivated killing - he was relatively low profile, essentially a professional back bench MP of long-standing.
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wrote on 15 Oct 2021, 23:48 last edited by
Now they're saying Islamic terrorism...
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372)
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Now they're saying Islamic terrorism...
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372)
wrote on 15 Oct 2021, 23:52 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:
Now they're saying Islamic terrorism...
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372)
First they came for the bows and arrows, but I said nothing...
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@doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:
Now they're saying Islamic terrorism...
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372)
First they came for the bows and arrows, but I said nothing...
wrote on 15 Oct 2021, 23:54 last edited by Doctor Phibes@george-k said in Another British MP murdered:
@doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:
Now they're saying Islamic terrorism...
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372)
First they came for the bows and arrows, but I said nothing...
Do you honestly think arming everybody would make things better?
Not sure about the bows and arrows comment - that was Norway, not the UK. This guy used a knife.
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@george-k said in Another British MP murdered:
@doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:
Now they're saying Islamic terrorism...
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372)
First they came for the bows and arrows, but I said nothing...
Do you honestly think arming everybody would make things better?
Not sure about the bows and arrows comment - that was Norway, not the UK. This guy used a knife.
wrote on 15 Oct 2021, 23:58 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:
Do you honestly think arming everybody would make things better?
Not sure about the bows and arrows comment - that was Norway, not the UK. This guy used a knife.Killers gotta kill.
That's sort of my point.
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@george-k said in Another British MP murdered:
@doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:
Now they're saying Islamic terrorism...
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372)
First they came for the bows and arrows, but I said nothing...
Do you honestly think arming everybody would make things better?
Not sure about the bows and arrows comment - that was Norway, not the UK. This guy used a knife.
wrote on 15 Oct 2021, 23:58 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:
@george-k said in Another British MP murdered:
@doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:
Now they're saying Islamic terrorism...
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372)
First they came for the bows and arrows, but I said nothing...
Do you honestly think arming everybody would make things better?
Not sure about the bows and arrows comment - that was Norway, not the UK. This guy used a knife.
The guy in Norway was a Muslim.
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@doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:
@george-k said in Another British MP murdered:
@doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:
Now they're saying Islamic terrorism...
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372)
First they came for the bows and arrows, but I said nothing...
Do you honestly think arming everybody would make things better?
Not sure about the bows and arrows comment - that was Norway, not the UK. This guy used a knife.
The guy in Norway was a Muslim.
wrote on 15 Oct 2021, 23:58 last edited by -
@doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:
@george-k said in Another British MP murdered:
@doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:
Now they're saying Islamic terrorism...
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372)
First they came for the bows and arrows, but I said nothing...
Do you honestly think arming everybody would make things better?
Not sure about the bows and arrows comment - that was Norway, not the UK. This guy used a knife.
The guy in Norway was a Muslim.
wrote on 16 Oct 2021, 00:03 last edited by@jolly said in Another British MP murdered:
@doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:
@george-k said in Another British MP murdered:
@doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:
Now they're saying Islamic terrorism...
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372)
First they came for the bows and arrows, but I said nothing...
Do you honestly think arming everybody would make things better?
Not sure about the bows and arrows comment - that was Norway, not the UK. This guy used a knife.
The guy in Norway was a Muslim.
The guy in the UK was a Muslim, too. They can buy weapons just like everybody else.
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@doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:
Do you honestly think arming everybody would make things better?
Not sure about the bows and arrows comment - that was Norway, not the UK. This guy used a knife.Killers gotta kill.
That's sort of my point.
wrote on 16 Oct 2021, 00:06 last edited by@george-k said in Another British MP murdered:
@doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:
Do you honestly think arming everybody would make things better?
Not sure about the bows and arrows comment - that was Norway, not the UK. This guy used a knife.Killers gotta kill.
That's sort of my point.
Well, there appear to be a lot more killers in some countries than in others. Maybe it's the education system.
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wrote on 16 Oct 2021, 00:08 last edited by
@george-k said in Another British MP murdered:
@jolly said in Another British MP murdered:
The guy in Norway was a Muslim.
You're a racist.
If it walks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, it ain't a moose.
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wrote on 16 Oct 2021, 00:11 last edited by Doctor Phibes
In my lifetime, there have been 6 British MP's murdered, 2 of them in the last 5 years.
4 were killed by Irish Republican terrorists, 1 by a Scottish white-supremacist, and 1 it appears by an Islamic terrorist.
Maybe they should just deport everybody.
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In my lifetime, there have been 6 British MP's murdered, 2 of them in the last 5 years.
4 were killed by Irish Republican terrorists, 1 by a Scottish white-supremacist, and 1 it appears by an Islamic terrorist.
Maybe they should just deport everybody.
wrote on 16 Oct 2021, 00:19 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:
In my lifetime, there have been 6 British MP's murdered
Wow. I had no idea.
4 were killed by Irish Republican terrorists
Was this by one-on-one killings, or bombing, etc?
1 by a Scottish white-supremacist
Insert Mel Gibson quote here...
and 1 it appears by an Islamic terrorist.
You're a racist.
Maybe they should just deport everybody
And a xenophobe.
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@doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:
In my lifetime, there have been 6 British MP's murdered
Wow. I had no idea.
4 were killed by Irish Republican terrorists
Was this by one-on-one killings, or bombing, etc?
1 by a Scottish white-supremacist
Insert Mel Gibson quote here...
and 1 it appears by an Islamic terrorist.
You're a racist.
Maybe they should just deport everybody
And a xenophobe.
wrote on 16 Oct 2021, 00:59 last edited by@george-k said in Another British MP murdered:
Was this by one-on-one killings, or bombing, etc?
1979: Airey Neave, The Shadow Secretary of State for Northern Ireland; killed in a car bombing outside the Palace of Westminster.
1981: Rev. Robert Bradford Shot at a constituents' surgery in Finaghy, Belfast.
1984: Sir Anthony Berry, Killed in the bombing of the Grand Brighton Hotel during the Conservative Party Conference.
1990: Ian Gow, Killed by a car bomb near his home in East Sussex.
2016: Jo Cox, Shot and stabbed before a constituents' surgery in Birstall, West Yorkshire.
2021: Sir David Amess, stabbed multiple times outside a constituency surgery meeting in Leigh-on-Sea, Essex.
I was only joking
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In my lifetime, there have been 6 British MP's murdered, 2 of them in the last 5 years.
4 were killed by Irish Republican terrorists, 1 by a Scottish white-supremacist, and 1 it appears by an Islamic terrorist.
Maybe they should just deport everybody.
wrote on 16 Oct 2021, 01:50 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:
Scottish white-supremacist
How funny that the Scottish think they're white.
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@george-k said in Another British MP murdered:
Was this by one-on-one killings, or bombing, etc?
1979: Airey Neave, The Shadow Secretary of State for Northern Ireland; killed in a car bombing outside the Palace of Westminster.
1981: Rev. Robert Bradford Shot at a constituents' surgery in Finaghy, Belfast.
1984: Sir Anthony Berry, Killed in the bombing of the Grand Brighton Hotel during the Conservative Party Conference.
1990: Ian Gow, Killed by a car bomb near his home in East Sussex.
2016: Jo Cox, Shot and stabbed before a constituents' surgery in Birstall, West Yorkshire.
2021: Sir David Amess, stabbed multiple times outside a constituency surgery meeting in Leigh-on-Sea, Essex.
wrote on 16 Oct 2021, 03:21 last edited by@doctor-phibes not to make light of any of this, but I must admit that I have never heard the use of the word surgery as a political meeting.
You British are funny with our language.
I swear, reading your list, I thought what a weird coincidence that more than one MP was killed at a doctors office. Then I realized I must be missing something
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@doctor-phibes not to make light of any of this, but I must admit that I have never heard the use of the word surgery as a political meeting.
You British are funny with our language.
I swear, reading your list, I thought what a weird coincidence that more than one MP was killed at a doctors office. Then I realized I must be missing something
wrote on 16 Oct 2021, 12:09 last edited by@bachophile said in Another British MP murdered:
Then I realized I must be missing something
I got paywalled out of NYT before I could copy the bit, but I gather 'surgeries' in British politics is the one-on-one meeting between the Member and a constituent. Phibes, please correct me if I'm wrong.
The bit also mentioned that Sir David mentioned in a book he wrote that surgeries needed to be done away with as dangerous for the Members.
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wrote on 17 Oct 2021, 11:36 last edited by
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58943184
The 25-year-old is being held under the Terrorism Act and officers have until Friday to question him.
The BBC understands Mr Ali was referred to the counter-terrorist Prevent scheme some years ago, but was never a formal subject of interest to MI5.
Whitehall officials told the BBC that the man being held was Ali Harbi Ali, a British man of Somali heritage.
Police said a man, who was held on suspicion of the MP's murder in Essex on Friday, was now being held at London police station after being rearrested under the Terrorism Act.We may never know the motive...
