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  • bachophileB bachophile

    Horrible

    George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #3

    @bachophile said in Another British MP murdered:

    Horrible

    Indeed.

    Motive?

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG George K

      @bachophile said in Another British MP murdered:

      Horrible

      Indeed.

      Motive?

      Doctor PhibesD Offline
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      Doctor Phibes
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      #4

      @george-k said in Another British MP murdered:

      @bachophile said in Another British MP murdered:

      Horrible

      Indeed.

      Motive?

      The only details about the suspect I've seen are that he was a 25 year-old man.

      I was only joking

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        Something cosmically unfair about such an end after a long service.

        RIP, Sir David.

        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

          @george-k said in Another British MP murdered:

          @bachophile said in Another British MP murdered:

          Horrible

          Indeed.

          Motive?

          The only details about the suspect I've seen are that he was a 25 year-old man.

          JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
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          #6

          @doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:

          @george-k said in Another British MP murdered:

          @bachophile said in Another British MP murdered:

          Horrible

          Indeed.

          Motive?

          The only details about the suspect I've seen are that he was a 25 year-old man.

          Muslim?

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            @doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:

            @george-k said in Another British MP murdered:

            @bachophile said in Another British MP murdered:

            Horrible

            Indeed.

            Motive?

            The only details about the suspect I've seen are that he was a 25 year-old man.

            Muslim?

            Doctor PhibesD Offline
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            Doctor Phibes
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            #7

            @jolly said in Another British MP murdered:

            @doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:

            @george-k said in Another British MP murdered:

            @bachophile said in Another British MP murdered:

            Horrible

            Indeed.

            Motive?

            The only details about the suspect I've seen are that he was a 25 year-old man.

            Muslim?

            They're not saying anything. He doesn't look like an obvious choice for any kind of politically or terrorist motivated killing - he was relatively low profile, essentially a professional back bench MP of long-standing.

            I was only joking

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              Doctor Phibes
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              #8

              Now they're saying Islamic terrorism...

              https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372)

              I was only joking

              George KG 1 Reply Last reply
              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                Now they're saying Islamic terrorism...

                https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372)

                George KG Offline
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                George K
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                #9

                @doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:

                Now they're saying Islamic terrorism...

                https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372)

                First they came for the bows and arrows, but I said nothing...

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                Doctor PhibesD 1 Reply Last reply
                • George KG George K

                  @doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:

                  Now they're saying Islamic terrorism...

                  https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372)

                  First they came for the bows and arrows, but I said nothing...

                  Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                  Doctor Phibes
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                  #10

                  @george-k said in Another British MP murdered:

                  @doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:

                  Now they're saying Islamic terrorism...

                  https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372)

                  First they came for the bows and arrows, but I said nothing...

                  Do you honestly think arming everybody would make things better?

                  Not sure about the bows and arrows comment - that was Norway, not the UK. This guy used a knife.

                  I was only joking

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    @george-k said in Another British MP murdered:

                    @doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:

                    Now they're saying Islamic terrorism...

                    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372)

                    First they came for the bows and arrows, but I said nothing...

                    Do you honestly think arming everybody would make things better?

                    Not sure about the bows and arrows comment - that was Norway, not the UK. This guy used a knife.

                    George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    #11

                    @doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:

                    Do you honestly think arming everybody would make things better?
                    Not sure about the bows and arrows comment - that was Norway, not the UK. This guy used a knife.

                    Killers gotta kill.

                    That's sort of my point.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                    Doctor PhibesD 1 Reply Last reply
                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      @george-k said in Another British MP murdered:

                      @doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:

                      Now they're saying Islamic terrorism...

                      https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372)

                      First they came for the bows and arrows, but I said nothing...

                      Do you honestly think arming everybody would make things better?

                      Not sure about the bows and arrows comment - that was Norway, not the UK. This guy used a knife.

                      JollyJ Offline
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                      Jolly
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                      #12

                      @doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:

                      @george-k said in Another British MP murdered:

                      @doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:

                      Now they're saying Islamic terrorism...

                      https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372)

                      First they came for the bows and arrows, but I said nothing...

                      Do you honestly think arming everybody would make things better?

                      Not sure about the bows and arrows comment - that was Norway, not the UK. This guy used a knife.

                      The guy in Norway was a Muslim.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        @doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:

                        @george-k said in Another British MP murdered:

                        @doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:

                        Now they're saying Islamic terrorism...

                        https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372)

                        First they came for the bows and arrows, but I said nothing...

                        Do you honestly think arming everybody would make things better?

                        Not sure about the bows and arrows comment - that was Norway, not the UK. This guy used a knife.

                        The guy in Norway was a Muslim.

                        George KG Offline
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                        George K
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                        #13

                        @jolly said in Another British MP murdered:

                        The guy in Norway was a Muslim.

                        You're a racist.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                        JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          @doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:

                          @george-k said in Another British MP murdered:

                          @doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:

                          Now they're saying Islamic terrorism...

                          https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372)

                          First they came for the bows and arrows, but I said nothing...

                          Do you honestly think arming everybody would make things better?

                          Not sure about the bows and arrows comment - that was Norway, not the UK. This guy used a knife.

                          The guy in Norway was a Muslim.

                          Doctor PhibesD Offline
                          Doctor PhibesD Offline
                          Doctor Phibes
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                          #14

                          @jolly said in Another British MP murdered:

                          @doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:

                          @george-k said in Another British MP murdered:

                          @doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:

                          Now they're saying Islamic terrorism...

                          https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58935372)

                          First they came for the bows and arrows, but I said nothing...

                          Do you honestly think arming everybody would make things better?

                          Not sure about the bows and arrows comment - that was Norway, not the UK. This guy used a knife.

                          The guy in Norway was a Muslim.

                          The guy in the UK was a Muslim, too. They can buy weapons just like everybody else.

                          I was only joking

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                          • George KG George K

                            @doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:

                            Do you honestly think arming everybody would make things better?
                            Not sure about the bows and arrows comment - that was Norway, not the UK. This guy used a knife.

                            Killers gotta kill.

                            That's sort of my point.

                            Doctor PhibesD Offline
                            Doctor PhibesD Offline
                            Doctor Phibes
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                            @george-k said in Another British MP murdered:

                            @doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:

                            Do you honestly think arming everybody would make things better?
                            Not sure about the bows and arrows comment - that was Norway, not the UK. This guy used a knife.

                            Killers gotta kill.

                            That's sort of my point.

                            Well, there appear to be a lot more killers in some countries than in others. Maybe it's the education system.

                            I was only joking

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                            • George KG George K

                              @jolly said in Another British MP murdered:

                              The guy in Norway was a Muslim.

                              You're a racist.

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                              Jolly
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                              @george-k said in Another British MP murdered:

                              @jolly said in Another British MP murdered:

                              The guy in Norway was a Muslim.

                              You're a racist.

                              If it walks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, it ain't a moose.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                Doctor Phibes
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                                #17

                                In my lifetime, there have been 6 British MP's murdered, 2 of them in the last 5 years.

                                4 were killed by Irish Republican terrorists, 1 by a Scottish white-supremacist, and 1 it appears by an Islamic terrorist.

                                Maybe they should just deport everybody.

                                I was only joking

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                                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                  In my lifetime, there have been 6 British MP's murdered, 2 of them in the last 5 years.

                                  4 were killed by Irish Republican terrorists, 1 by a Scottish white-supremacist, and 1 it appears by an Islamic terrorist.

                                  Maybe they should just deport everybody.

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                                  George K
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                                  @doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:

                                  In my lifetime, there have been 6 British MP's murdered

                                  Wow. I had no idea.

                                  4 were killed by Irish Republican terrorists

                                  Was this by one-on-one killings, or bombing, etc?

                                  1 by a Scottish white-supremacist

                                  Insert Mel Gibson quote here...

                                  and 1 it appears by an Islamic terrorist.

                                  You're a racist.

                                  Maybe they should just deport everybody

                                  And a xenophobe.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    @doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:

                                    In my lifetime, there have been 6 British MP's murdered

                                    Wow. I had no idea.

                                    4 were killed by Irish Republican terrorists

                                    Was this by one-on-one killings, or bombing, etc?

                                    1 by a Scottish white-supremacist

                                    Insert Mel Gibson quote here...

                                    and 1 it appears by an Islamic terrorist.

                                    You're a racist.

                                    Maybe they should just deport everybody

                                    And a xenophobe.

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                                    Doctor Phibes
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                                    @george-k said in Another British MP murdered:

                                    Was this by one-on-one killings, or bombing, etc?

                                    1979: Airey Neave, The Shadow Secretary of State for Northern Ireland; killed in a car bombing outside the Palace of Westminster.

                                    1981: Rev. Robert Bradford Shot at a constituents' surgery in Finaghy, Belfast.

                                    1984: Sir Anthony Berry, Killed in the bombing of the Grand Brighton Hotel during the Conservative Party Conference.

                                    1990: Ian Gow, Killed by a car bomb near his home in East Sussex.

                                    2016: Jo Cox, Shot and stabbed before a constituents' surgery in Birstall, West Yorkshire.

                                    2021: Sir David Amess, stabbed multiple times outside a constituency surgery meeting in Leigh-on-Sea, Essex.

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                      In my lifetime, there have been 6 British MP's murdered, 2 of them in the last 5 years.

                                      4 were killed by Irish Republican terrorists, 1 by a Scottish white-supremacist, and 1 it appears by an Islamic terrorist.

                                      Maybe they should just deport everybody.

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                                      @doctor-phibes said in Another British MP murdered:

                                      Scottish white-supremacist

                                      How funny that the Scottish think they're white.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                        @george-k said in Another British MP murdered:

                                        Was this by one-on-one killings, or bombing, etc?

                                        1979: Airey Neave, The Shadow Secretary of State for Northern Ireland; killed in a car bombing outside the Palace of Westminster.

                                        1981: Rev. Robert Bradford Shot at a constituents' surgery in Finaghy, Belfast.

                                        1984: Sir Anthony Berry, Killed in the bombing of the Grand Brighton Hotel during the Conservative Party Conference.

                                        1990: Ian Gow, Killed by a car bomb near his home in East Sussex.

                                        2016: Jo Cox, Shot and stabbed before a constituents' surgery in Birstall, West Yorkshire.

                                        2021: Sir David Amess, stabbed multiple times outside a constituency surgery meeting in Leigh-on-Sea, Essex.

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                                        @doctor-phibes not to make light of any of this, but I must admit that I have never heard the use of the word surgery as a political meeting.

                                        You British are funny with our language.

                                        I swear, reading your list, I thought what a weird coincidence that more than one MP was killed at a doctors office. Then I realized I must be missing something

                                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surgery_(politics)

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                                        • bachophileB bachophile

                                          @doctor-phibes not to make light of any of this, but I must admit that I have never heard the use of the word surgery as a political meeting.

                                          You British are funny with our language.

                                          I swear, reading your list, I thought what a weird coincidence that more than one MP was killed at a doctors office. Then I realized I must be missing something

                                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surgery_(politics)

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                                          @bachophile said in Another British MP murdered:

                                          Then I realized I must be missing something

                                          I got paywalled out of NYT before I could copy the bit, but I gather 'surgeries' in British politics is the one-on-one meeting between the Member and a constituent. Phibes, please correct me if I'm wrong.

                                          The bit also mentioned that Sir David mentioned in a book he wrote that surgeries needed to be done away with as dangerous for the Members.

                                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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