Rethinking the Lockdown

[Jolly]

I heard an idiot on CBS News this morning, pushing an Administration health officials in why the Feds didn't institute unilateral opening strategies. The simple reason is that governors know what is happening within their state, better than the Feds.

[Copper]

That is the strategy.

[jon-nyc]

Our culture isn't even willing to do this.

[Jolly]

No, people are tired of the lockdown and if grandma has to go...Well, goodbye grandma...

[Mik]

80% of Americans are for a safe, careful reopening. The rest are belligerent assholes. A lot of them live near me, some are people I have known all my life. They talk a lot about being wolves and everyone else sheep, but in fact they are the sheep. Wolves aren't much good against a virus.

[Copper]

@Mik said in Rethinking the Lockdown:

80% of Americans are for a safe, careful reopening.

Which is impossible to define.

At least it is impossible to define in a way that can be implemented and demonstrate any sort of measurable results.

I think a large number of people will still stay home or limit activity, whether the states are reopened or not.

[Mik]

It's being defined every day in every state. Measurable results is that new infections and hospitalizations don't spike. See how easy that was?

[Horace]

It is simply too dangerous for me to consider driving into work. I'm going to keep working from home, in the interest of public safety.

[xenon]

@Copper said in Rethinking the Lockdown:

At least it is impossible to define in a way that can be implemented and demonstrate any sort of measurable results.

What you mean to say is that there's no counterfactual. Outside of scientific systems and engineering problems - you can't really get measurable hard data after you do something - that is exactly attributable to the thing you did.

• Starting a new business

• Managing a large organization

• Political policy

• Etc.

Striving for a "safe, careful opening" is as realistic or futile (depending on your POV) as striving for a sound business plan before launching a product, or hiring a competent CEO or setting deliberate tax policy.

You'll never get hard data on what exactly your policy or action did - because you can't separate from the myriad other variables at play.

Still - we task our "best and brightest" with these problems.

[Copper]

Thanks so much for telling me what I mean to say.

[Copper]

@Mik said in Rethinking the Lockdown:

It's being defined every day in every state. Measurable results is that new infections and hospitalizations don't spike. See how easy that was?

Measurable results also include barbers and plumbers and carpenters and restaurant owners loosing businesses that they have spent their lives building.

To top it off they are being called reckless for wanting to reopen.

There are at least two sides to this.

If it was up to me I would shutdown everything, roads, hospitals, police, fire, electricity, water, everything. Shut it all down for 2 weeks make everyone stay indoors and get it over with. Then open it all back up.

After that let people make their choices, come out or stay home.

This process of management by emotional outburst isn't doing anyone any good.

[Rainman]

@Copper said in Rethinking the Lockdown:

If it was up to me I would shutdown everything, roads, hospitals, police, fire, electricity, water, everything. Shut it all down for 2 weeks make everyone stay indoors and get it over with. Then open it all back up.

That's a good idea. Everyone prepare for two weeks of complete isolation, hunker down in place. I wonder if this would work, in terms of getting rid of the virus.

[Jolly]

Maybe, but since people won't do it, no.

I think the South is going to do better than some other parts of the U.S., mostly because we're going into that part of the year with really hot temps and really high humidity. Our virus friend does not like heat and humidity.

[LuFins Dad]

It would take 4-5 weeks at least and would have to be the entire world. Tell me how that goes.

[xenon]

@Copper said in Rethinking the Lockdown:

Thanks so much for telling me what I mean to say.

You're welcome. It was a polite way of saying you probably don't agree with your own statement.

[Copper]

@xenon said in Rethinking the Lockdown:

@Copper said in Rethinking the Lockdown:

Thanks so much for telling me what I mean to say.

You're welcome. It was a polite way of saying you probably don't agree with your own statement.

Do you know what the word polite means?

[xenon]

@Copper said in Rethinking the Lockdown:

@xenon said in Rethinking the Lockdown:

@Copper said in Rethinking the Lockdown:

Thanks so much for telling me what I mean to say.

You're welcome. It was a polite way of saying you probably don't agree with your own statement.

Do you know what the word polite means?

Yes. The previous post was not polite. The one before it was.

[Aqua Letifer]

@Jolly said in Rethinking the Lockdown:

Maybe, but since people won't do it, no.

I think the South is going to do better than some other parts of the U.S., mostly because we're going into that part of the year with really hot temps and really high humidity. Our virus friend does not like heat and humidity.

Also lower population density down there. Which should help.

[LuFins Dad]

Also Vitamin D, and you guys take a bunch of Pepcid AC thanks to all that Jambalaya...

[Jolly]

@LuFins-Dad said in Rethinking the Lockdown:

Also Vitamin D, and you guys take a bunch of Pepcid AC thanks to all that Jambalaya...

Now see, that's a misconception...People throw a bunch of heat in something and call it cajun. Cajun food is seasoned, not overly spicy.