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  • Catseye3C Catseye3

    @horace As I have given you my word that I would no longer post to you with anything other than impersonal material, I am prohibited from answering your question.

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    @catseye3 said in "If this offends you":

    @horace As I have given you my word that I would no longer post to you with anything other than impersonal material, I am prohibited from answering your question.

    Funny, you had a drop-in on that thread between me and Renauda with some pearls about hatred being eternal. I'll tell you what's more eternal. Stupid and crazy.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • Catseye3C Catseye3

      @mik Why perturb yourself? If you want to honor her, honor her. If you don't, fuggetaboutit and preserve your peace.

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      @catseye3 said in "If this offends you":

      @mik Why perturb yourself? If you want to honor her, honor her. If you don't, fuggetaboutit and preserve your peace.

      I'm not perturbed at all. But it is absurd to believe you can choose to be an outlier AND demand that everyone else treat you a certain way because of it. I don't deliberately disrespect the people I meet, but I'm also not going to change my behavior based on their choices.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        Personally I could care less about what the Tic Toc woman thinks she is or how she wants to be addressed. As far as I'm concerned she is just another self entitled nobody seeking unwarranted attention.

        The only reason I posted was because Trudeau's message caught my eye. Seemed as good a reason as any to contribute to the thread.

        As far as Trudeau's message itself .... We are not burning candles in our windows and nor do we plan to burn candles. I don't know anyone who does. I am sure though there are some, although it seems pointless since the issue of missing people is front and centre in the popular press in this country. Has been for several years now. It's not as if folks in this country are unaware of these missing people.

        Elbows up!

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          Burning a candle does nothing. If you want to get involved, do so as you are able. But all this feel good crap accomplishes nothing. The HVAC guys just left form out checkup. They were both wearing pink shirts with pink ribbons for breast cancer. We are all aware of breast cancer.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • MikM Mik

            Burning a candle does nothing. If you want to get involved, do so as you are able. But all this feel good crap accomplishes nothing. The HVAC guys just left form out checkup. They were both wearing pink shirts with pink ribbons for breast cancer. We are all aware of breast cancer.

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            @mik

            But burning candles is typical Trudeau. He is all about identity politics and only handling one file at a time.

            Mik wrote: "If you want to get involved, do so as you are able."

            I agree. I have put my name down as a volunteer for assisting in various ways prostate cancer patients. Once this Covid thing has settled down here, there are some seminars planned in which I will be directly involved.

            Elbows up!

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              Everybody picks something and participates. That's how things get done. We seem to have lost sight of the fact that a country is the result of the efforts of its citizens, not its government.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • MikM Mik

                Burning a candle does nothing. If you want to get involved, do so as you are able. But all this feel good crap accomplishes nothing. The HVAC guys just left form out checkup. They were both wearing pink shirts with pink ribbons for breast cancer. We are all aware of breast cancer.

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                @mik said in "If this offends you":

                Burning a candle does nothing. If you want to get involved, do so as you are able. But all this feel good crap accomplishes nothing. The HVAC guys just left form out checkup. They were both wearing pink shirts with pink ribbons for breast cancer. We are all aware of breast cancer.

                Remember the Rush bit about the ribbons?😄

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  So what's the point of all the US flags flying on people's lawns? They achieve nothing. We all know we're in America, there's no point telling everybody.

                  How about the yellow ribbons for POW's? Again, no point to them. If you care, you need to get yourself out there in a Rambo costume and start rescuing people languishing in foreign camps.

                  I could go on.....

                  I was only joking

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    So what's the point of all the US flags flying on people's lawns? They achieve nothing. We all know we're in America, there's no point telling everybody.

                    How about the yellow ribbons for POW's? Again, no point to them. If you care, you need to get yourself out there in a Rambo costume and start rescuing people languishing in foreign camps.

                    I could go on.....

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                    @doctor-phibes said in "If this offends you":

                    So what's the point of all the US flags flying on people's lawns? They achieve nothing. We all know we're in America, there's no point telling everybody.
                    How about the yellow ribbons for POW's? Again, no point to them. If you care, you need to get yourself out there in a Rambo costume and start rescuing people languishing in foreign camps.

                    How did you get Ax's password?

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG George K

                      @doctor-phibes said in "If this offends you":

                      So what's the point of all the US flags flying on people's lawns? They achieve nothing. We all know we're in America, there's no point telling everybody.
                      How about the yellow ribbons for POW's? Again, no point to them. If you care, you need to get yourself out there in a Rambo costume and start rescuing people languishing in foreign camps.

                      How did you get Ax's password?

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                      @george-k said in "If this offends you":

                      @doctor-phibes said in "If this offends you":

                      So what's the point of all the US flags flying on people's lawns? They achieve nothing. We all know we're in America, there's no point telling everybody.
                      How about the yellow ribbons for POW's? Again, no point to them. If you care, you need to get yourself out there in a Rambo costume and start rescuing people languishing in foreign camps.

                      How did you get Ax's password?

                      What's the difference between a pink ribbon and a red, white and blue lawn ornament?

                      I was only joking

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                      • George KG George K

                        @doctor-phibes said in "If this offends you":

                        So what's the point of all the US flags flying on people's lawns? They achieve nothing. We all know we're in America, there's no point telling everybody.
                        How about the yellow ribbons for POW's? Again, no point to them. If you care, you need to get yourself out there in a Rambo costume and start rescuing people languishing in foreign camps.

                        How did you get Ax's password?

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                        @george-k No, I think Phibes has a point.

                        During WWII, families would hang a symbol in their windows -- I think it was a star? -- signifying that a family member had fallen in battle. That was a form of communication, both to share the sad news and also to request they not be bothered as they were in mourning. The sign served a purpose.

                        It may be that putting out symbols nowadays got its start from that custom. But the original purpose is no longer being served. Now it's pointless, as he says. It's cheap patriotism -- you get the credit for waving the flag without having to work for it.

                        I guess, depending on the culture of the neighborhood, such symbols can function as a support for community cohesion -- "we're in this together".

                        I remember resenting when GWB decreed the flags could be raised from half mast post 9/11. The thought that flared was, "I'll raise the flag when I fxxking well feel like it, mofo."

                        Hm, I guess I'm conflicted about this.

                        Nem mind.

                        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                          True story - three days ago I had to hurriedly drag my dog away as he attempted to take a dump right on one of those small US flags on somebody's lawn. I was freaking mortified.

                          And no, I haven't trained him to do it.

                          I was only joking

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                          • Catseye3C Catseye3

                            @george-k No, I think Phibes has a point.

                            During WWII, families would hang a symbol in their windows -- I think it was a star? -- signifying that a family member had fallen in battle. That was a form of communication, both to share the sad news and also to request they not be bothered as they were in mourning. The sign served a purpose.

                            It may be that putting out symbols nowadays got its start from that custom. But the original purpose is no longer being served. Now it's pointless, as he says. It's cheap patriotism -- you get the credit for waving the flag without having to work for it.

                            I guess, depending on the culture of the neighborhood, such symbols can function as a support for community cohesion -- "we're in this together".

                            I remember resenting when GWB decreed the flags could be raised from half mast post 9/11. The thought that flared was, "I'll raise the flag when I fxxking well feel like it, mofo."

                            Hm, I guess I'm conflicted about this.

                            Nem mind.

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                            @catseye3 said in "If this offends you":

                            During WWII, families would hang a symbol in their windows -- I think it was a star? -- signifying that a family member had fallen in battle. That was a form of communication, both to share the sad news and also to request they not be bothered as they were in mourning. The sign served a purpose.
                            It may be that putting out symbols nowadays got its start from that custom.

                            Holy crap, where to start.

                            1. Service flags predate WWII. And they're still used today. Drive around.
                            2. A gold star signifies a fallen family member. A blue star signifies a family member serving in a time of conflict.
                            3. For the gold stars, they aren't shown to be left alone to mourn. They're to show pride and solidarity in their family members' service to their country. Some mourning families quite obviously ask for privacy but that's not what the stars are for.
                            4. "Putting out symbols" didn't start with service flags. You're off by a few thousand years.

                            Please love yourself.

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                            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                              @catseye3 said in "If this offends you":

                              During WWII, families would hang a symbol in their windows -- I think it was a star? -- signifying that a family member had fallen in battle. That was a form of communication, both to share the sad news and also to request they not be bothered as they were in mourning. The sign served a purpose.
                              It may be that putting out symbols nowadays got its start from that custom.

                              Holy crap, where to start.

                              1. Service flags predate WWII. And they're still used today. Drive around.
                              2. A gold star signifies a fallen family member. A blue star signifies a family member serving in a time of conflict.
                              3. For the gold stars, they aren't shown to be left alone to mourn. They're to show pride and solidarity in their family members' service to their country. Some mourning families quite obviously ask for privacy but that's not what the stars are for.
                              4. "Putting out symbols" didn't start with service flags. You're off by a few thousand years.
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                              @aqua-letifer And not even a thank-you for affording you an opportunity to show off your farflung knowledge?

                              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                And let's not forget the most patriotic people on earth - car dealers.

                                I was only joking

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                                  Are we really going to discuss people that abuse the flag?

                                  1. Take your US flag down at night, people, unless you have it appropriately lit and it is an appropriate and patriotic occasion.

                                  2. The proper way to retire an old flag or one that has been damaged or dirtied is to burn it. From now on, any time I see a flag t-shirt on some fat and sweaty slob with pit stains and bbq stains, I am going to retire that flag. Same with hats, same with ties, same with bathing suits.

                                  The Brad

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                                    @doctor-phibes said in "If this offends you":

                                    So what's the point of all the US flags flying on people's lawns?

                                    I dunno. You tell me...

                                    alt text

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      @catseye3 said in "If this offends you":

                                      @aqua-letifer And not even a thank-you for affording you an opportunity to show off your farflung knowledge?

                                      Eh? How is any of that far-flung?

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                        @doctor-phibes said in "If this offends you":

                                        So what's the point of all the US flags flying on people's lawns?

                                        I dunno. You tell me...

                                        alt text

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                                        @jolly said in "If this offends you":

                                        @doctor-phibes said in "If this offends you":

                                        So what's the point of all the US flags flying on people's lawns?

                                        I dunno. You tell me...

                                        alt text

                                        I'm really glad I grew up in an area where seeing that was not at all weird. The same motherfuckers who love watching
                                        "Invictus" on Prime also find the Stars & Bars so scary that only insane racists would ever keep one around.

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                        • JollyJ Jolly

                                          @doctor-phibes said in "If this offends you":

                                          So what's the point of all the US flags flying on people's lawns?

                                          I dunno. You tell me...

                                          alt text

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                                          @jolly

                                          On Victoria Day Holiday in May and Canada Day 1 July I fly the Red Ensign alongside the Canadian flag:

                                          fdff91d3-ac39-40b3-a1fc-6c6230d487f2-image.png

                                          Sadly, like your Army of West Virginia battle flag, the Red Ensign and its heritage has been usurped and is now wrongly considered by some as offensive. Story here:

                                          https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/former-canadian-flag-the-red-ensign-gets-new-darker-life-as-far-right-symbol

                                          On 11 November, Remembrance Day, I used to fly the Red Ensign alone, but since Afghanistan, I fly the CAF flag in honour of the servicemen and women in all conflicts and peacetime:

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                                          I am sure some are working perverting that flag as well.

                                          Elbows up!

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